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Wait a minute, they aren't black panthers. Something is wrong. Must be a false flag attack.

MsBennet says

I bet the lefties of the world are bummed these guys are Muslim and not right-wing nutters or tea partiers. Still an analyst on CNN this morning said she wouldn't call it terrorism. WTH? Some people are just too lefty for common sense.

They must be one of those liberal-socialist Caucasian Region Muslim Fundamentalists, no doubt inspired by labor disputes in the 1910s in Chicago or something.

Vicente says

RE YOU DEAF? I CAN HARDLY HEAR MYSELF FOR THE SOUND OF RIGHT WING
DERPERS!

One of the Infowars guys interrupted the FBI press conference with his False
Flag lunacy. Freeper site is full of that. All my GOP relatives are sure this is
connected to libtards & background checks. Right here in this thread we have
Thomas Wong peddling the idea it was Marxists.

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Vic,

I have a life and don't spend as much time as you do reading the opinions of the anonymous. My experiences that I mention are from conversations I hear, or are involved with. I don't get my knickers in a twist like you do, from what I read on the 'net. Why? 1) I don't have much time and 2) really don't have the interest what nameless/faceless people from both sides of the isle spew. I really concentrate, and care about what I hear from actual people I talk to or, listen to around me.

The fact that this act of terror happened in my backyard, and the fact that my comment on this thread concerning this thread is #148 speaks volumes more that your petty rants on this thread. So go spend time bashing the right from far away on this sad event. Delete this comment if you want. I don't care. I'm just relating to actual people I've talked to. My wife's supervisor's kid was a teamate on the wrestiling team w/ Suspect #2 at Ringe HS in Cambridge. The poor MIT cop was the son of someone who works in her company. I've heard so much misdirected opinions from my neighbors on this tragedy, I have to hold my tongue. Maybe I have to be clear in communicating this to you. I have the decency to keep my big yapper shut till we got the facts. My liberal neighbors were incapable of this. I haven't heard (NOT READ ON THE INTERNET) any retarted 'speculations' from anyone that could be thought of as conservative from any neighbor or co-worker. They are smarter than that. These are my observations in my blue state.... Sorry if you don't like my comments, but this is what I've heard.

AverageBear says

isle

Aisle.

AverageBear says

My experiences that I mention are from conversations I hear, or are involved with.

You live in a plastic ball, got it. Therefore perfectly valid for you to judge that conservatives "really never" leap to blame Libtards or Marxists or False Flags. I at least, notice when my friends say lunatic things, and I say WAIT that's crazy. I've seen both sides of that even from my very limited use of Facebook. Unless there's something big going on, I only check Facebook every few months.

This event seems to be, not about you.

I have the decency to keep my big yapper shut till we got the facts.

Yeah, I try to do that too. So at least we have that in common.

You know what's really pissing me off?

Reddit and accompanying whackadoodles DIDN'T LEARN from previous mistakes and spent last night trying to pin this on a missing Brown U. student named Sunil Tripathi. Or was that some sort of convoluted joke?

I'm adding this story to my long list of reasons why we should not allow immigration.

The father of the fugitive spoke from Russia urging his son to return home and warned Ameirca if he is killed then all hell will break lose.
This was after his uncle who lives in the states and hasn't talked to them since 2005, called him a low life loser, and has nothing to so with Muslims.

zzyzzx says

I'm adding this story to my long list of reasons why we should not allow immigration.

I thought we needed fresh drive & genius to mix in the Melting Pot? I thought we needed H1-B workers to supplant lazy/ignorant/overpaid Americans? I thought this was the land where people start over?

These guys were legal, not illegals.

DOORS CLOSED, SORRY!

zzyzzx says

I'm adding this story to my long list of reasons why we should not allow immigration.

Spoken like a true conservative. I got mine. Fuck everybody else.

This is also the reason why we shouldn't build anymore housing. I got my house, everyone else can live in a 300 sq. ft. apartment or on the street. We should also get rid of college. I got my degree, fuck everyone else. We should also get rid of marriage. I got my spouse, fuck everyone else. And shut down all retirement plans. I got my 401K, fuck everybody else.

We should water board all immigrants, just to make sure they have the best intentions when they immigrate here.

"Why are you here?"
"for a better opportunity in life"
(gurgle gurgle gurgle)
"I don't believe you, there aren't any opportunities in an Obama Ameirca!"
(gurgle gurgle gurgle)

The most significant piece of information right now is the exact location where Suspect#2 abandoned the black Mercedes SUV after breaking through the police position at the end of the Watertown firefight.

Has anyone seen that location information? I have searched for it but found nothing.

A deeply convinced Anarchist and sex worker rights advocate, Tamerlan saw oppression all around him in the so-called liberal north-east. "There is no dignity for working people anymore", he once said, "The authorities can't control themselves in committing mass acts of sexism, homophobia, racism, violence and repression".

On Yotube, he endorsed a video that praised IWW strikers as being "Alive with Social Activism" and another in which Happy Lunarwoman, a radical activist and neopagan cleric, railed against Movies featuring too many rigid gender-role non-queer characters that drank non-Fair Trade Coffee.

Shit, I just screwed up. Sorry, I had my EIB Gold reading glasses on, let me get my regular pair. Here we go:

A deeply religious Muslim and teetotal, Tamerlan saw sin all around him in the liberal north-east. "There are no values any more," he once said. "People can't control themselves."

On YouTube, he endorsed a video that praised Islamic martyrs as being "alive with their Lord", and another in which a preacher railed against the Harry Potter films as "promoting evil" among Muslim children.

I wonder if autopsy will show Tamerlan had any steroids in his system.

Wife & child? This will forever stain their lives.

Harry Potter, is however a foul influence.

thunderlips11 says

A deeply convinced Anarchist and sex worker rights advocate, Tamerlan saw oppression all around him in the so-called liberal north-east. "There is no dignity for working people anymore", he once said, "The authorities can't control themselves in committing mass acts of sexism, homophobia, racism, violence and repression".

On Yotube, he endorsed a video that praised IWW strikers as being "Alive with Social Activism" and another in which Happy Lunarwoman, a radical activist and neopagan cleric, railed against Movies featuring too many rigid gender-role non-queer characters that drank non-Fair Trade Coffee.

Shit, I just screwed up. Sorry, I had my EIB Gold reading glasses on, let me get my regular pair. Here we go:

Hehe, that was a good one - touche!

Vicente says

I wonder if autopsy will show Tamerlan had any steroids in his system.

Wife & child? This will forever stain their lives.

Harry Potter, is however a foul influence.

The housewives and dr phil are a foul influence, kill your TV, be free and save $50 per month!

Dan8267 says

zzyzzx says

I'm adding this story to my long list of reasons why we should not allow immigration.

Spoken like a true conservative. I got mine. Fuck everybody else.

This is also the reason why we shouldn't build anymore housing. I got my house, everyone else can live in a 300 sq. ft. apartment or on the street. We should also get rid of college. I got my degree, fuck everyone else. We should also get rid of marriage. I got my spouse, fuck everyone else. And shut down all retirement plans. I got my 401K, fuck everybody else.

The point is fair, we shouldnt be letting in so many foreigners and giving them a free education while US Citizens are denied because of so called diversity programs.

MsBennet says

I bet the lefties of the world are bummed these guys are Muslim and not right-wing nutters or tea partiers.

Did the elite left come out of their war room and figure out what spin to put out there on the MSNBC and NPR airwaves ? I suspect they will blame society for alienating these two brothers, and that the USA is to blame for what happened. Salon.com has egg on the face praying that the bombers were white. Well, they are "White", except they are White Al Qaeda (i.e., from or near the region of Chechnya). Exactly the types that Al Qaeda or any foreign terrorist organization would love to recruit and train on explosives, and urban warfighting.

thomaswong.1986 says

The point is fair, we shouldnt be letting in so many foreigners and giving them a free education while US Citizens are denied because of so called diversity programs.

Immigration quotas are a fair point. A completely closed border is just a dumb idea, especially in the age of Globalization.

http://alyssalindley.tumblr.com/post/48368749553/ive-met-the-boston-bombers

MsBennet says

I bet the lefties of the world are bummed these guys are Muslim and not right-wing nutters or tea partiers.

Perhaps, but we liberals are not. They are clearly terrorists and murderers. They should be tried in a fair, open court, and if convicted -- which given the evidence is damn likely -- given life imprisonment to spend regretting their crimes and serving as an example that blowing up innocents is a fucking stupid thing to do.

Of course, Islam is just what Christianity was a little while ago. The core problem is the irrationality of religion and superstition. The world would be a far better place without religion and with everyone getting an education in science and rational thought instead. When was the last time a physicist blew up innocent people?

Dan8267 says

When was the last time a physicist blew up innocent people?

They just poison with Anthrax.

MsBennet says

Dan8267 says

When was the last time a physicist blew up innocent people?

They just poison with Anthrax.

Really? Physicists are known for poisoning people with Anthrax? That's the last time I invite Neil deGrasse Tyson over for dinner!

Dan8267 says

When was the last time a physicist blew up innocent people?

I see the FedGov MiB have wiped your mind of the Black Mesa incident.

Vicente says

I see the FedGov MiB have wiped your mind of the Black Mesa incident.

I'm more of a Portal guy.

Although, Einstein was also prominently featured in the Red Alert series. I don't think he blew anyone up. He did create a weather control device though...

But since we're nerding out. Aliens Colonial Marines? Much better than the reviews. A bit of a let down, but still a good game overall.

MsBennet says

Dan8267 says

When was the last time a physicist blew up innocent people?

They just poison with Anthrax.

Really? Got proof of that?

Dan8267 says

MsBennet says

Dan8267 says

When was the last time a physicist blew up innocent people?

They just poison with Anthrax.

Really? Physicists are known for poisoning people with Anthrax? That's the last time I invite Neil deGrasse Tyson over for dinner!

He seems more like a ricin kind of guy...

From recent news:
"People who know the younger Tsarnaev described him as bright, studious and quiet, with ambitions in medicine. The older was a boxer who said he dreamed of joining the U.S. Olympic team."
Something is not clear here for sure. Way somebody as described can plot bomb in public place without any particular reason? Do they be treated or paid handsomely to do it? If police kill another brother (they anxious to do it) the real truth will be nicely covered and die with them.

This guy will no doubt get a first class suite at Gitmo, if he comes to the states for the trial.

The father of the suspects, reached in Makhachkala, Russia, by The Associated Press, has also called on his son to surrender peacefully, but reportedly warned the United States that “all hell will break loose” if he’ll killed.

"My son is a true angel," Anzor Tsarnaev told The Associated Press. "Dzhokhar is a second-year medical student in the U.S. He is such an intelligent boy. We expected him to come on holidays here."

Anzor Tsarnaev, who characterized his younger son as an intelligent and accomplished young man, told ABC News that he spoke to his sons by phone earlier this week. He said his sons reassured him, saying, "Everything is good, Daddy. Everything is very good."

"Give up. Give up. You have a bright future ahead of you,” Anzor Tsarneav said, according to ABC News. “Come home to Russia.”

He continued: "If they killed him, then all hell would break loose."

REpro says

"People who know the younger Tsarnaev described him as bright, studious and quiet, with ambitions in medicine. The older was a boxer who said he dreamed of joining the U.S. Olympic team."

I am just a poor boy though my story's seldom told. I have squandered my existence for a pocket full of mumbles such are promises.

New Renter says

Really? Got proof of that?

Sorry, he was a microbiologist.

Two doofy guys literally shut down a major US city for a day. Embarrassing.

MsBennet says

New Renter says

Really? Got proof of that?

Sorry, he was a microbiologist.

Don't worry, you're premise that rationality and education are bad things still stands.

Suspect 2 captured not due to police search, boat owner noticed blood on his boat and looked inside. Saw man covered in blood, called cops. At hospital in serious condition, crisis over.

Dan8267 says

Really? Got proof of that?

Sorry, he was a microbiologist.

Don't worry, you're premise that rationality and education are bad things still stands.

No. That wasn't it. But you can live in your own world, if you so choose.

Vicente says

Right here in this thread we have Thomas Wong peddling the idea it was Marxists.

oh... and where did i mention the recent terrorist attack was the work of the Red Army Faction, Weather Men Underground, Baader-Meinhof Gang ?

nadda...

i pointed out how the Liberals were jumping the gun ...

as posted above... here it is again...

as already shown on Pnet above ...

Liberals Are Already Blaming Boston Marathon Bombing On Conservatives

ww.rightwingnews.com/crime/liberals-are-already-blaming-boston-marathon-bombing-on-conservatives/

After national tragedies, liberals almost inevitably come out of the woodwork looking for ways to blame the whole thing on conservatives. Sadly, the Boston Marathon bombing has been no exception to that rule. Even though at present, there is absolutely nothing that ties the Boston Marathon bombing to conservatives, there are still Left-Wingers still trying to blame these attacks on the Right.

CNN’s national security analyst Peter Bergen suggested more than once that a, “right-wing extremist group” could be behind the attacks.

MSNBC’s Chris Matthews falsely claimed that, “Normally domestic terrorists, people, tend to be on the far right.”

New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof tweeted, “Explosion is a reminder that ATF needs a director. Shame on Senate Republicans for blocking apptment.”

And of course, we can’t forget Michael Moore. "2+2= "

thomaswong.1986 says

oh... and where did i mention the recent terrorist attack was the work of the Red Army Faction, Weather Men Underground, Baader-Meinhof Gang ?

For example, in this post of yours:
http://patrick.net/?p=1223866&c=952719#comment-952719

thomaswong.1986 says:
it would NOT be the first time anarchists - marxist groups planted bombs during public
events in the USA. Its been going on over the past 100 years. so you can forget trying to associate Religion to this crime.

How many bombs went off during the late 60s early 70s week in week out over the course of several years. Weatherman Underground ring a fucking bell !!

Are you an Alzheimer patient or something? Or does your keyboard diarrhea just make it impossible to keep straight what you said yesterday?

Or is this one of those cases of "see what I *meant* there was your sister is great, even though what I *wrote* is your sister likes sex with donkies". Keep fucking that chicken!

Vicente says

For example, in this post of yours:

http://patrick.net/?p=1223866&c=952719#comment-952719

thomaswong.1986 says:

it would NOT be the first time anarchists - marxist groups planted bombs during public

events in the USA. Its been going on over the past 100 years. so you can forget trying to associate Religion to this crime.

How many bombs went off during the late 60s early 70s week in week out over the course of several years. Weatherman Underground ring a fucking bell !!

Are you an Alzheimer patient or something? Or does your keyboard diarrhea just make it impossible to keep straight what you said yesterday?

Or is this one of those cases of "see what I *meant* there was your sister is great, even though what I *wrote* is your sister likes sex with donkies". Keep fucking that chicken!

I call that a US history lesson into late 19th and early 20th century discussion on bombings in the USA.. And a reminder of mass bombings in recent history.

So sorry.. you cant point to some right wing nut job on this terrorist attack.. your boy got killed by some crazy ass foreigner and you cant get over it.

thunderlips11 says

I'm guessing a lone nut rather than a terror cell, however. I think Religion is the most likely, since a tax protestor or anti-abortionist generally attack facilities directly tied to their pet peeve.

thomaswong.1986 says:

it would NOT be the first time anarchists - marxist groups planted bombs during public
events in the USA. Its been going on over the past 100 years. so you can forget trying to associate Religion to this crime.

How many bombs went off during the late 60s early 70s week in week out over the course of several years. Weatherman Underground ring a fucking bell !!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Red_Scare#Anarchist_bombings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Weatherman_actions

thomaswong.1986 says

your boy got killed by some crazy ass foreigner and you cant get over it.

I have never held any other assumption than it was a terrorist.

Please point to where in this thread I claimed otherwise. You can't. Then you attempt to rewrite your own history in this thread, when we can all read otherwise. Do you have some kind of disorder with a name?

This thread is over & done.

Keep fucking that chicken!

This story is getting attention all over the world but is not on Boston.com: "Boston Marathon bombing suspect NOT read his Miranda rights". The FBI is reportedly invoking a "public safety exception." One comment on the Washington Post site is particularly good:

"The public safety exception is triggered when police officers have an objectively reasonable need to protect the police or the public from immediate danger."

There seems to be a rush to water down the rights that Americans are guaranteed....

It seems worrisome that this tragedy may be misused as an excuse to take away even more of the safeguards against government excess, as 9/11 was misused to enact the horribly misnamed and unpatriotic "Patriot Act." Better to go through the usual procedure: arrest the suspect and inform him of his rights, then give him a fair trial where he is presumed innocent until the prosecutors prove the police got the right guy, then convict and sentence him, then electrocute him or inject him full of chemicals until he's dead.