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MMR says

I recall many people from Bali being treated as 2nd class citizens in Saudi Arabia, namely because they are not arabs.....please put the onus on yourself to do the research and post those links here...............Indonesian muslims serve as maids and nannies and are often treated like dirt in Saudi.....

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/01/a-maids-execution-in-saudi-arabia.html

Bigsby says

don't recall the Bali bombers being arabs...

Duh, I've lived and worked in Kuwait for over a decade. I've got plenty of insight on the topic, but none of that relates to the stupid post made by Bap about Asians.

Congratulations.....I suppose you deserve a cookie.....Thin Mint or Samoa

Bigsby says

MMR says

I recall many people from Bali being treated as 2nd class citizens in Saudi Arabia, namely because they are not arabs.....please put the onus on yourself to do the research and post those links here...............Indonesian muslims serve as maids and nannies and are often treated like dirt in Saudi.....

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/01/a-maids-execution-in-saudi-arabia.html

Bigsby says

don't recall the Bali bombers being arabs...

Duh, I've lived and worked in Kuwait for over a decade. I've got plenty of insight on the topic, but none of that relates to the stupid post made by Bap about Asians.

Since youve been in arabia so long.....do Arabs see other muslims as equal....I think that was a significant point that Bap was trying to make

Please link me back to the point Bap was making that I may have missed

Congratulations on a couple of very insightful replies. Sorry, just joking.

What do people working in Kuwait do for fun?.......I think you deserve a reward for taking a job there......and then not presenting the whole picture......Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Indonesians are treated like dirt and all you can do is nitpick about Bap......awesome for a white boy.

MMR says

Since youve been in arabia so long.....do Arabs see other muslims as equal....I think that was a significant point that Bap was trying to make

Are arabs a homogenous group? No. Do all people think the same? No. Do richer people take advantage of those who are poorer? Frequently.
I thought the point Bap was foolishly making was that arab muslims are crazy unlike asian muslims.

MMR says

What do people working in Kuwait do for fun?.......I think you deserve a reward for taking a job there......and then not presenting the whole picture......Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Indonesians are treated like dirt and all you can do is nitpick about Bap......awesome for a white boy.

Oh well done. Do you think I should cure hunger and bring peace to the world at the same time?

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

arab muslims are crazy

There are no people crazier than the neocons, because they often have access to nuclear options and want to take over the world as well.

I didn't say arab muslims were crazy, Bap did. And yes, we've fully gathered you are a paranoid conspiracy nut.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

I didn't say arab muslims were crazy, Bap did. And yes, we've fully gathered you are a paranoid onspiracy nut.

You missed my ebook that talks about the neocons and especially about Patrick Clawson. Here is a neocon who, after neocons are blamed for 9/11 conspiracy, flaunts in the face another call for a false flag. Bigsby, wake up buddy.

I suspect I wasn't the only person who missed it. A good job too considering you went back and forth with the one reviewer of your then free book who didn't take a shine to it.

I'm not a neocon by any stretch of the Imagination.....being a wog and all.....but geez......worse than Arab muslims, especially wahhabis who practice Islam as it was practiced in the 14th century????????.......I mean really, how much more conservative can you get that that......The American Religious Right simply can't hold a candle to that level of conservatism today........Maybe in a 1000 years but definitely not today.......

Bigsby says

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

arab muslims are crazy

There are no people crazier than the neocons, because they often have access to nuclear options and want to take over the world as well.

I didn't say arab muslims were crazy, Bap did. And yes, we've fully gathered you are a paranoid onspiracy nut.

bgamall4 says

My point is, Bigsby, that this neocon is not helping your argument that neocons don't call for false flags. They do. Here is one on tape, Clawson!

That wasn't my argument. I simply said you were a paranoid conspiracy nut. And as with any group, there are loons who say all sorts of bollocks. Just look at you.

@MMR, you might notice that what you replied to was a response to Bgamall. And it really wasn't that long ago that christians practiced a very conservative form of the religion. Some still do. And given the length of time the two religions have been around...

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

That wasn't my argument.

So you admit that the neocons called for a false flag prior to 9/11 right? Or do you even know what you admit?

Because that was of course what I said. Oh, hang on, no it wasn't.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

suspect I wasn't the only person who missed it. A good job too considering you went back and forth with the one reviewer of your then free book who didn't take a shine to it.

Thanks for the insult. Again, neocons wanting false flags have occurred before this election, 2012, with Clawson and prior to the 2000 election with PNAC speaking about a new Pearl Harbor.

Only an idiot could not connect these dots Bigsby.

It wasn't an insult. There is one review on Amazon and you proceeded to have a back and forth with him.

I agreed with you

Bigsby says

@MMR, you might notice that what you replied to was a response to Bgamall. And it really wasn't that long ago that christians practiced a very conservative form of the religion. Some still do. And given the length of time the two religions have been around...

MMR says

I agreed with you

Bigsby says

@MMR, you might notice that what you replied to was a response to Bgamall. And it really wasn't that long ago that christians practiced a very conservative form of the religion. Some still do. And given the length of time the two religions have been around...

Hardly, you were playing one thing off with the other.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Because that was of course what I said. Oh, hang on, no it wasn't.

So you cannot connect the dots between the original mention of a false flag by the PNAC neocons and then 9/11 and the most recent mention of false flags by a neocon and Romney unexpectedly lost. Remember, when that call was made, the chief neocon, Rove, believed that Romney was a certain winner.

Don't worry, I won't be buying your ebook.

Sorry you felt that way....but I agreed with you because I consider you to be an intelligent person even if I don't agree with you 100% of the time.

In any event, if I made a mistake then I apologize.....I mostly agree with you.....you seem to know what you're talking about....for what it is worth.

Bigsby says

MMR says

I agreed with you

Bigsby says

@MMR, you might notice that what you replied to was a response to Bgamall. And it really wasn't that long ago that christians practiced a very conservative form of the religion. Some still do. And given the length of time the two religions have been around...

Hardly, you were playing one thing off with the other.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Don't worry, I won't be buying your ebook.

You already know the neocons call for false flags. That is why you insult me instead of explaining how they continue to do so yet aren't involved. Did you know Patrick Clawson was a member of the Cheney Energy Task Force? And now he is calling for a false flag?

You really don't have much between the ears Biggs.

People call for and do all sorts of things. You, however, take it to the nth degree even when all scientific research and logical thought demonstrates otherwise. Just look at the nonsense you concoct to make yourself believe your 9/11 conspiracy bullshit. And I may or may not have much between my ears, though my postgrad qualifications would indicate at least some ability for rational thought. You, however, simply appear to have retirement boredom and general paranoia affecting your thought processes.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

People call for and do all sorts of things.

That was weak. And you are wrong about the science. This behavior just solidifies the science. You are the bullshitter. People don't just call for false flags continually unless they mean to carry them out.

People in his position of power, a right hand man of Cheney who is responsible for 9/11 makes your defense of bogus science lose its meaning even more.

You are the one who is not seeing reality. You are the bullshitter.

Weak? It's a fact. People say shite all the time. Some people even do what they say or have people do it for them. But that doesn't mean your 9/11 nutjob views are correct. They quite clearly aren't as all the real evidence you so easily ignore demonstrates.

The Professor says

curious2 says

Steel and cement are not generally fuel sources

Are they ever fuel sources?

Only in ways that are as irrelevant as your conspiracy theories. Steel wool can be burned as fuel, but it's inefficient and there wasn't enough of it to be relevant. Structural steel and cement can only become fuel at the temperatures and pressures found deep inside a large star, where atoms are fused into larger elements; nothing like that happened in NYC on 9/11. Like the conspiracy theories, the question is a waste of time. Please move on to something worthwhile.

The Professor says

Modern forensic analysis has shown that the sinking was probably caused by a boiler explosion.

ha ha ha Americans really enjoy being duped.

Bigsby says

I thought the point Bap was foolishly making was that arab muslims are crazy
unlike asian muslims.

arab muslams are the only true muslams - accoding to them. Everyone else dies first. And even in the arab muslam world there are splinters and fractions that claim to be more muslam than others. That is what I was getting at.

I also do not see Asian muslams as having the same lack of acceptable geo-social behavior skills that arab muslams tend to demonstrate. There are very few asain acting muslam, indicating that acting like a muslam is not common around asains. Now, there are lots of non-arab afican negros acting like muslams these days. Louis Farakan would be soooo upset if he ever read the part where mohamad makes it clear that the negro africans that are willing to follow the laws of the arabs will be allowed to live, but only as eunic slaves. Sucks to be Louie.

The Professor says

curious2 says

Steel wool can be burned as fuel

laughing out loud

Steel wool will burn. Even when its wet.

But, I think we can say for sure that, here on earth, a steel beam or a cement block can not support combustion. In a star they may very well be consumed by fire, but that is not supporting combustion -- I think.

I'm curious to know what you think 'acting like a muslam' actually entails. That and whether you are taking the piss.

Put simply, most actions that people, especially arab muslams, have judged to "prove" someone is following the fabel of mohmad would fall under "acting like a muslam". For example, beheading Daniel Perle was following the arab muslam law wrote in their God book to the letter. That is why no arab muslams were against it. Arab muslams agree with such behavior.

kneeling and praying every so many hours, with your head aimed at mecca, is another action that most anyone would say is "acting muslam". Right?

Not the same as when a guy shoots a doctor at an abortatorium, and then the media or he "claims to be a Christian." His actions are exactly against the law wrote in the Christian God book. Christians do not agree with such behavior.

So, I think it is fair to say that when actions of a person does not match a group's written law - that person is not an active member of the group. When their actions are following their law to the letter, then they are an active member of the group. I would guess the ability to judge actions comes into play at some point.

what does "taking the piss" mean? drinking? No, I do not drink, or smoke, or view porn. Those things are forbidden by him whos name must not be spoken.

So you are taking the piss.

? dont know the phrase?

I have a good buddy named Paul we call Pollywog, so I get that.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

And wog is a very offensive term in the UK.

We aren't in the UK. Let those Wankers deal with it.

A predictably stupid comment from you.

humor is not your strong point is it Bigsby?

Professor have you seen loose change the documentary
alot of evidence is there
http://www.youtube.com/embed/CDx1GLqvBO8

they explain what burned the still in the towers

Bap33 says

humor is not your strong point is it Bigsby?

Nor yours or bgamal's apparently.

bgamall4 says

That loose change video pretty much sums it up.

That is presumably the humour Bap was referring to.

bgamall4 says

Then explain why, when confronted with the accusation and the RNC view, did W break down and cry rather than stand up for himself?

Could you point me to a video or link to W. crying after being confronted with that question?

bgamall4 says

Bap33 says

humor is not your strong point is it Bigsby?

A man both incapable of humor and incapable of seeing that the WTC collapses were planned is a man without a brain.

At least the stupidity of all your posts gives me a good laugh.

Say hi to the NSA watchers gathering your data!

The NSA has been exposed by Mr. Snowden for the out-of-control, fascistic organization that it is. Thousands of violations of their own statutes, secret courts declaring their actions unconstitutional, it doesn't matter - they watch you.