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Californians: Why do you stay?


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2013 Aug 7, 4:06am   46,426 views  174 comments

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Seems like there is a lot of discussion/discourse on here about living cost, and a lot of it comes from people who list California as their home state.

My question is: With housing prices, taxes, business cost, etc so high, why do you personally choose to stay in California?

The average rent in places like North Beach, San Francisco would buy you a 7,000 sqft McMansion in places like Texas, and you may have left over to get a lease on a nice BMW.

So why do you stay?

- Weather?
- Family?
- Job?
- Unsure?

#housing

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124   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 1:15pm  

I take it you were dumped recently.

125   curious2   2013 Aug 8, 1:17pm  

MershedPerturders says

you want to vote? then you have to fight.

The problem with the "Equal Rights Amendment" was it said women (who comprise a majority of voters) could conscript men (a minority of voters) while exempting themselves. With a volunteer military, all voters are exempt from having to fight, although males remain vulnerable to conscription.

But, you've unintentionally illustrated an irony here:

MershedPerturders says

For so long as you have women voting, you will get leaders like Obama....

Men have consistently voted for even more warlike, and more corporatist, candidates. Whatever you might think about President Obama, he's much better than (or not nearly as terrible as) Romnesia or McCain would probably have been. Romney the Terrible, in particular, showed no regard for the majority of Americans, whose religions he believes to be abominations. Combat hair stylist Romnesia said publicly his job was not to worry about 47%, whom he basically called dependent parasites; privately, he had already written off a much larger %.

And, your tangent has ventured far from California. This state has never even had a female governor, though we have two female Senators. Connecticut had a woman governor who was, by all accounts, a very successful chief executive. Fear of the state being somehow taken over by women isn't a reason to stay or go.

Goran_K says

I can count on one hand the amount of respectful atheist I have met in my life. The majority of them are just as bad as the bible thumpers they claim to despise.

You should meet more people, or take another look at those Bible thumpers:

126   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 1:27pm  

Bigsby says

I take it you were dumped recently.

have you ever noticed that all our imagery, practically everything that sucks us into this horrible trap called the American Dream is wrapped up in our concept of romantic love? Romantic love is not a constant by any means. Actually up in fairly recently(the 60s) this idea of romantic love didn't exist- at least in it's current form. It's slowly developed over the ages as part of the working-class mythology. Everyone believes love to exist- however how many do you know who really live it?

people protect this myth at all costs as it's really the basis for practically all our hopes and dreams. Try to sell one of the McMansion shitboxes WITHOUT imagery of happy love lives and bouncing babies. Just try it. Try and sell a college 'education' without the belief in either 1) loads of casual sex(if you are a male) 2) meeting 'the one' (if you are a female). Try and sell a $20,000 vacation without the prospect of having the possibility of just ONE DAY or even a few hours of time with your wife that doesn't inspire disgust.

The illusion is strong. Incredibly strong. By the time you have broken it and seen it for what it is, most are very old and really incapable of acting on this information. It's not exactly something you share with your children, although enough of the behavior of seniors sends the message loud and clear.

Women create and maintain this illusion because they know they could not survive without it. Really the human race could not survive without it. If your parents didn't buy it, then you wouldn't be here. But there's a catch- this illusion MUST PRODUCE CHILDREN. the moment it departs from family life is the moment the culture becomes destructive. It is just a matter of time before that culture is removed from earth permanently usually by it's own devices. This is what California is today.

127   Indiana Jones   2013 Aug 8, 1:31pm  

Hey Mershed - How do you feel about your Mother?

128   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 1:44pm  

Mershed, my apologies. I suspect you weren't dumped. You just can't get any in the first place.

129   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 1:46pm  

Indiana Jones says

Hey Mershed - How do you feel about your Mother?

good question.

she was a good woman. put family first and got my dad to his job. they raised some good kids. if she were here today she would probably agree with me.

sbh says

To the woman who transcended you and sent you into this downward spiral: Honey, it was the best decision of your life.

consider the basic divorce rate. now factor in the religious, the 'conservatives', foreigners who rarely divorce. This gives us a rough divorce rate, that is for the kind of people in this thread, of above 90%. That is also given an enormous rate of change, we dont know what the divorce rate will look like in 20 years. Fact is, nothing about our current ideas regarding family, 'love', etc. make any sense whatsoever. They simply DO NOT WORK. They sure do serve these liberal 'sex in the city' women well though as they go from man to man fleecing him of his wealth.

see that 'happy marriage' pic up there? http://sfist.com/2013/08/08/man_shoots_wife_posts_photo_of_body.php

promoting this lie of fun and happy marriage is really so basic to the system it takes YEARS to really figure out what it's all about. Women will scream for hours if you even suggest the truth of it. They can't psychologically deal with it. It's like garlic to a vampire. Theyll shame you in any way imaginable. But really, they are the greatest shame of all, because they fail to realize this illusion was created to make children, and they broke the contract so all bets are off. In the end they will suffer the most.

I expect this sort of shaming and ridicule and the kind of behavior you expect from an 8 year old. This is what American women really are- grown up children whom a belligerent party has given important positions to, with the worst intentions imaginable. Naturally in their own conceit and generally ignorance about the world, these women believe they are somehow superior, even worthy of these positions.

There is simply one question that you must ask when considering the notion of gender equality: if women are so smart and powerful, why dont they just get together in all-women companies, or maybe even armies? they dont do this because having to deal with other women in large numbers is every woman's nightmare because other women know their tactics, whereas men(American men) are totally blind to them.

and so it goes. Every traditional society has one last word on 'women empowerment' they all agree that the moment women gain power is the moment the worthy exit and everything collapses.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-08-04/opinions/41067335_1_lease-real-estate-lifetime

130   B.A.C.A.H.   2013 Aug 8, 1:47pm  

Spoken like a true American Taliban, duly noted by NSA no doubt. Time to select ignore.

Sheesh Patrick, your blog really does bring in all sorts.

131   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 1:47pm  

Bigsby says

Mershed, my apologies. I suspect you weren't dumped. You just can't get any in the first place.

get what? one of these prostitutes to sleep with me and perform any number of these retarded sex acts chronicled and illustrated in your porno magazines?

fact is you're not really as much of a champ as they want you to believe.

a lower primate has more sense than the average Californian.

132   curious2   2013 Aug 8, 1:53pm  

MershedPerturders says

now factor in the religious, the 'conservatives', foreigners who rarely divorce.

As noted above, the religious, "conservative" Bible Belt states have a higher divorce rate.

133   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 1:58pm  

curious2 says

MershedPerturders says

now factor in the religious, the 'conservatives', foreigners who rarely divorce.

As noted above, the religious "conservative" Bible Belt states have a higher divorce rate than the rest of the country.

according to whom? Every serial divorcee I've ever met is not only liberal- but far left lunatic liberal, as in : no connection to humanity whatsoever. Of course they believe and rely to the world that our country has gone 'way too conservative' in recent decades. They believe everyone is radically 'right wing'.

just go to any drug store today. Virtually HALF the store is cosmetics products. This tells you a lot about where American culture has gone. You don't need to listen to me. But many are reading this with wide open eyes, because Im saying exactly what theyve been thinking for years and also what women have known for years but are unwilling to say.

you can't shame me, you can't try and put me down. You have no shame. You kill children to deal with your irresponsibility.

You can't try and belittle me. Youre attempts and successes at bedding these retarded whores does not impress anyone of any worth. You've done more disgusting acts than most animals are willing to do.

You don't have to do anything. These problems will take care of themselves. It's just a matter of time.

134   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 2:04pm  

sbh says

And saying "Fuck, I'm glad I haven't met this loser."

yes because it would be far more difficult to tune out what I say.

for someone so worthless you spend a lot of time reading him and responding.

135   curious2   2013 Aug 8, 2:04pm  

MershedPerturders says

according to whom?

The Census Bureau, CNN, etc. You know, all those entities in "the reality based community," which you ignore evidently.

MershedPerturders says

Every serial divorcee I've ever met is not only liberal- but far left lunatic liberal, as in : no connection to humanity whatsoever.

Check California conservative Zsa Zsa Gabor's divorce record.

136   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 2:10pm  

MershedPerturders says

Bigsby says

Mershed, my apologies. I suspect you weren't dumped. You just can't get any in the first place.

get what? one of these prostitutes to sleep with me and perform any number of these retarded sex acts chronicled and illustrated in your porno magazines?

fact is you're not really as much of a champ as they want you to believe.

a lower primate has more sense than the average Californian.

My porno mags? Dear boy, it's the age of the internet.

137   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 2:15pm  

Bigsby says

My porno mags? Dear boy, it's the age of the internet.

porn is part of the program. Porn dramatically alters your physiology and psychology. Not so long ago, people were really dramatically different. They weren't constantly thinking about sex like a dog in heat. It's totally unnatural. It greatly contributes to immorality.

Have you ever wondered where all this internet porn comes from? where do they get these men and women to do this if no one ever pays them? go and find yourself and answer to that question and you will have a huge piece of the puzzle. Porn is incredibly criminal, it's connected to all the other problems that supposedly dont exist like trafficking children for sex slaves.

Porn is mental POISON. It's nothing to brag about or to be proud of.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/asvl6kO1Vo8

138   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 2:17pm  

Thinking about sex is unnatural? Ha, fucking, ha. You must be on a wind up or a member of Westboro.

139   Indiana Jones   2013 Aug 8, 2:18pm  

MershedPerturders says

Hey Mershed - How do you feel about your Mother?

good question.

she was a good woman. put family first and got my dad to his job. they raised some good kids. if she were here today she would probably agree with me.

You are nuts if you think your mother would really agree with your hatred of women.

140   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 2:24pm  

sbh says

porn is part of the program

Yes. There's an evil PLAN afoot! And those grievous Jezebels are at the root of it. How dare they not have penises!!!!!!

before you continue on your ridicule trip, I suggest you watch the video I linked, which was banned from Discovery Channel.

141   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 2:27pm  

in this world we live, you are free to do what you will. Rationalizations are meaningless. Have you ever noticed that all these lunatics are being grouped into concentrated geographical areas? I wonder why... I guess we'll find out soon.

142   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 2:33pm  

sbh says

Look fella, I don't know what your major malfunction derives from, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt eventually (human interaction is fraught with highs and lows), but I don't want to go down any rabbit hole you've been down. Dude, I don't wanna know what's it's like to be you. Got it?

at least you're willing to admit that your problem with me is not that im incorrect, but rather you're unwilling to be exposed to the information I'm presenting.

unfortunately, it gets much worse than this. Much of the 'conspiracy theory' is not really a theory per se, but it's actually true.

The state you are in is that of a mind divided, between the desire to know the truth of the world around you, and the desire to be comfortable and conformant to those whom you are surrounded by.

143   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 2:35pm  

to be a bit more topical, the Housing Crisis is not at all accidental.

It's DESIGNED to rob americans of their wealth. It's not over yet. If you are a 'regular' person there's really nothing you can do about it.

Many of you already suspect this, but to ACCEPT it, you must accept that there is a party orchestrating all this. Who is it? Why would they do it? The moment you begin to ask these questions sincerely, all your presumptions begin to fall apart, which is not exactly pleasant and certainly less fun than watching TV.

144   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 2:39pm  

MershedPerturders says

in this world we live, you are free to do what you will. Rationalizations are meaningless. Have you ever noticed that all these lunatics are being grouped into concentrated geographical areas? I wonder why... I guess we'll find out soon.

Arizona seemingly.

145   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 2:41pm  

MershedPerturders says

sbh says

Look fella, I don't know what your major malfunction derives from, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt eventually (human interaction is fraught with highs and lows), but I don't want to go down any rabbit hole you've been down. Dude, I don't wanna know what's it's like to be you. Got it?

at least you're willing to admit that your problem with me is not that im incorrect, but rather you're unwilling to be exposed to the information I'm presenting.

unfortunately, it gets much worse than this. Much of the 'conspiracy theory' is not really a theory per se, but it's actually true.

The state you are in is that of a mind divided, between the desire to know the truth of the world around you, and the desire to be comfortable and conformant to those whom you are surrounded by.

No, I imagine he thinks you're incorrect.

146   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 2:42pm  

MershedPerturders says

to be a bit more topical, the Housing Crisis is not at all accidental.

It's DESIGNED to rob americans of their wealth. It's not over yet. If you are a 'regular' person there's really nothing you can do about it.

Many of you already suspect this, but to ACCEPT it, you must accept that there is a party orchestrating all this. Who is it? Why would they do it? The moment you begin to ask these questions sincerely, all your presumptions begin to fall apart, which is not exactly pleasant and certainly less fun than watching TV.

Let me guess.... it's all down to the devil.

147   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 2:47pm  

Bigsby says

Let me guess.... it's all down to the devil.

do you even believe in the possibility of good and evil? or is everything just a shade of FUN?

Californians are SICK people.

148   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 2:52pm  

MershedPerturders says

Bigsby says

Let me guess.... it's all down to the devil.

do you even believe in the possibility of good and evil? or is everything just a shade of FUN?

Californians are SICK people.

I'm not from California. And no, I don't believe in the devil. Oh, nooooooos.

149   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 2:59pm  

Bigsby says

I don't believe in the devil.

watch that video and you will.

150   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 3:03pm  

MershedPerturders says

Bigsby says

I don't believe in the devil.

watch that video and you will.

No, I won't.

151   Heraclitusstudent   2013 Aug 8, 3:11pm  

MershedPerturders says

It's DESIGNED to rob americans of their wealth. It's not over yet. If you are a 'regular' person there's really nothing you can do about it.

Yeah well... some industries ready to milk every penny (or even your life savings) out of you through every possible con job?
Welcome to America.

Are they in bed with government?
Yeah, welcome to America.

152   Heraclitusstudent   2013 Aug 8, 3:12pm  

MershedPerturders says

Californians are SICK people.

You seem to be quick to jump to wild generalizations.

153   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 3:12pm  

Bigsby says

No, I won't.

youre not interested that your government is involved with child sex trafficking but youre interested in how to get the best deal on real estate.

if the Californian culture DOESN'T completely implode it would violate all principles of human history.

154   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 3:37pm  

MershedPerturders says

Bigsby says

No, I won't.

youre not interested that your government is involved with child sex trafficking but youre interested in how to get the best deal on real estate.

if the Californian culture DOESN'T completely implode it would violate all principles of human history.

Utter bollocks completely unrelated to me not believing in the devil.

155   Heraclitusstudent   2013 Aug 8, 3:40pm  

Ceffer says

My wife would watch the shows, but when there was an episode where Cary(??) dissed and ditched a guy for wearing topsiders, I had enough.

You're lucky, she could watch desperate house wives.

156   curious2   2013 Aug 8, 3:43pm  

sbh says

I don't want to go down any rabbit hole you've been down.

Curiosity got the better of me, so I clicked the video, then watched until Flash crashed. (Uh oh, Adobe must be part of the conspiracy.) It says a Republican was convicted of fraud (I guess one is a start), and that a Catholic charity was a front for child molestation (who would have thought?). The narrator is obsessed with the obscure charity, calling it America's most loved (I'd never heard of it), and made me suspect that someone might in fact have been molested by an especially loathsome monsignor there, and thus fell from "turd" to "turder".

Anyway, according to turder's apparently false bio, he lives in Phoenix, as did those he alleges were responsible for his arrival. So, it would be reasonable to delete his useless comments from the thread: since he isn't a Californian and doesn't stay here, it was not addressed to him anyway.

157   Heraclitusstudent   2013 Aug 8, 3:51pm  

MershedPerturders says

All of them believe that after they got their 'equal opportunity' that some awesome guy is going to materialize out of thin air and ask for their hand in marriage.

I heard of a poll from a dating website where women rated like 90% of men profiles "below average".

158   curious2   2013 Aug 8, 3:53pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

I heard of a poll from a dating website where women rated like 90% of men profiles "below average".

Depending on the site, that might be generous. Dating websites are not a representative sample. And what does it have to do with the thread? Was it at least a California website? Maybe this site?

159   Heraclitusstudent   2013 Aug 8, 3:59pm  

MershedPerturders says

just go to any drug store today. Virtually HALF the store is cosmetics products. This tells you a lot about where American culture has gone.

Americans in general tend to have a pretty big ego, and need a lot of reassurance.
It's not just women, and not just liberal parts of the country: men like to show off their big cars, walk like cowboys, etc... They are taught from school to have 'confidence' which is often falls pretty close to 'arrogance'. Sex and ego are the 2 goto levers for salesmen in America. It works better than the bible.

Many also have an urge to palm steely phallic symbols, like guns. It reassures them.

160   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 4:26pm  

curious2 sounds like your typical rabid liberal defender.

I find very often these types of people have had abortions at some point in their life.

161   Bigsby   2013 Aug 8, 4:30pm  

MershedPerturders says

curious2 sounds like your typical rabid liberal defender.

I find very often these types of people have had abortions at some point in their life.

Do a lot of research into such things, do you?

162   curious2   2013 Aug 8, 4:33pm  

MershedPerturders says

curious2 sounds like your typical rabid liberal defender.

I find very often these types of people have had abortions at some point in their life.

Uh oh - I'd better get vaccinated for rabies on my way to the clinic for my next "on demand" abortion. After all, if turdpile said it, it must be true. Good thing abortion remains safe and legal here in California.

(See how I tied that back to the topic of the thread? It took some work, considering the attack on me was totally unrelated - and baseless - but I found a way. Here in California, we have access to vaccines, and even abortions, which might not be the case in some other places.)

163   MershedPerturders   2013 Aug 8, 4:53pm  

curious2 says

Uh oh - I'd better get vaccinated for rabies on my way to the clinic for my next "on demand" abortion. After all, if turdpile said it, it must be true. Good thing abortion remains safe and legal here in California.

have you had an abortion?

(see how I made her attempt to deflect the topic irrelevant?)

women who have had this procedure suffer from an enormous subconscious level of guilt. This is why you will sometimes find some women rabidly defending the liberal platform. There is nothing lower in life than a woman who kills her own child, and thus the fight endlessly to prevent anyone or any group from categorizing them that way. The liberal program offers them an alternative, but in return they must fight for the cause and persuade other woman to also have abortions and live a similar lifestyle. It's unbelievably perverse. Recently the program has extended to also include babies that have been fully born into the world.

They are sick, sick people and they need help. Few of them ever come clean on their past. Rarely do they openly even admit to do doing this, but a just a quick look at their character reveals what type of person they actually are.

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