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Why won't anyone show the floor plan?


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2011 Sep 5, 10:22pm   50,278 views  137 comments

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It's frustrating to view 10-20 pictures online and try to piece together the layout of a house, especially when most pictures are literally the corner of a room. Don't waste my time! There are only a few pictures I care about initially.

1. Floor plan
2. Front of house
3. Back of house
4. Kitchen

Why, oh why, is there NEVER a floor plan for anything but new houses? Is it some sort of safety precaution? Is it because no one wants to take 1 hour to draw one in MS Paint if they don't have it? Is it because no one wants to sell their house?

I think I speak for most people that if a house isn't laid out a certain way, I don't want to waste my time. Putting the floor plan online attracts buyers who are interested in the house layout, and wastes less item on both ends of the transaction.

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124   TechGromit   2011 Dec 14, 4:44am  

StoutFiles says

Why, oh why, is there NEVER a floor plan for anything but new houses?

Can't say I ever thought about it. Next time I sell my house, I'll serious consider having the floor plan as one of the photos I post. While it will certainly hurt some houses that have crappy floor plans, it can only help houses with good floor plans.

PockyClipsNow says

you are dreaming.
if you put up a homemade floor plan it will NEVER match the real floor plan. In order to match it you would have to hire a pro and pay him 5k.

I think I can draw a pretty good floor plan just from memory, the dimensions might be off, the the basic layout would be correct. This is something I draw in 5 minutes, It only lacks the stairs leading up the 2nd floor from the bottom opening in the drawing and the stairs under it from the kitchen to the basement. Give me an couple of hours and I'll post something far better.

125   StoutFiles   2011 Dec 14, 5:03am  

TechGromit says

I think I can draw a pretty good floor plan just from memory, the dimensions might be off, the the basic layout would be correct. This is something I draw in 5 minutes, It only lacks the stairs leading up the 2nd floor from the bottom opening in the drawing

That diagram there would be extremely useful for prospective buyers, but some people are convinced you'd get sued for it. Even if you'd told the buyers it was a sketch, even if you labeled it as a sketch, even though other pictures are not necessarily accurate over time, even though listed sq. ft. numbers are always debatable, even though apartments list floor plans and they aren't 100% accurate, etc.

My stance remains the same...if you've got a good layout and want your house sold, flaunt the floor plan! Or, just take some pictures of room corners and waste everyone's time.

126   Warren2   2011 Dec 14, 5:07am  

StoutFiles says

This piece of crap took me three minutes. Just a random bad layout I threw together.

The "3-minite floorplan" tells me there is no bathroom in the Master Bedroom. A deal-breaker for me. On to the next house.

127   TechGromit   2011 Dec 14, 5:19am  

Here another attempt. I don't see how I could be sued for an advertisement. If I included the Sketch during the closing that might be a different issue.

PockyClipsNow says

then the lawsuits start right after the sale for fraud, mis representation, etc.

I really don't see a different between this than say McDonald's advertising one of there burgers. They use the best bun, lettuce, etc to make the optimal photo of there burger, when you get it in restaurant, it certainly doesn't look like that.

128   TechGromit   2011 Dec 14, 5:24am  

StoutFiles says

It's not like I'm asking for the blueprints, just the location of rooms and their area.

I actually have the original blueprints from when the house was built. If I had a scanner large enough, i could scan them in and post them in an real estate ad.

129   StoutFiles   2011 Dec 14, 6:33am  

Warren2 says

StoutFiles says

This piece of crap took me three minutes. Just a random bad layout I threw together.

The "3-minite floorplan" tells me there is no bathroom in the Master Bedroom. A deal-breaker for me. On to the next house.

Good, that would prevent you from coming to see this hypothetical house and wasting your time as well as mine. Win-win. If there are instant deal-breakers in room layouts, wouldn't it be better to know them right away?

130   zzyzzx   2011 Dec 14, 6:52am  

DennisN says

I think you answered your own question. It would take an hour to draw one in MS paint. But it only takes a couple of minutes to walk around the house with a camera and take a dozen shots. For the photos no preparation is needed:

I agree with the above.

131   zzyzzx   2011 Dec 14, 6:52am  

TechGromit says

StoutFiles says

It's not like I'm asking for the blueprints, just the location of rooms and their area.

I actually have the original blueprints from when the house was built. If I had a scanner large enough, i could scan them in and post them in an real estate ad.

Digital camera should be sufficient.

132   StoutFiles   2011 Dec 14, 8:00am  

zzyzzx says

TechGromit says

StoutFiles says

It's not like I'm asking for the blueprints, just the location of rooms and their area.

I actually have the original blueprints from when the house was built. If I had a scanner large enough, i could scan them in and post them in an real estate ad.

Digital camera should be sufficient.

If the homeowner isn't insulted by your offer...you didn't bid low enough!!!

But Warren JUST said a bathroom not next to the master bedroom was a deal breaker. Pictures of room corners doesn't let him know not to waste his or my time. Pictures arent enough.

133   propmgrjay   2011 Dec 16, 6:36am  

When it comes to running a business, what you're spending money on, and what value you get for that purchase, is frequently as important as how much you're spending on it.

A nice looking floor plan isn't a cheap thing to purchase, and offers little return on investment, as I can rent/sell just as much without paying for that floor plan as I can if I had paid for it.

With a good digital camera, and a cheap video camera, I can show you anything you want to know about a property without spending any money, and post it to my weblog, hosted for free by google, and then drive traffic to my weblog through free craigslist and backpage ads.

That's why many of us don't provide floor plans. Our businesses depend on providing our clients with as much value for their dollar as possible, and we get very little value from buying floor plans compared to the other options that are available.

134   zzyzzx   2011 Dec 16, 9:07am  

Done! says

There's no dimensions? what good is it?

It's a good crude approximation.

135   StoutFiles   2011 Dec 17, 1:10am  

propmgrjay says

When it comes to running a business, what you're spending money on, and what value you get for that purchase, is frequently as important as how much you're spending on it.

A nice looking floor plan isn't a cheap thing to purchase, and offers little return on investment, as I can rent/sell just as much without paying for that floor plan as I can if I had paid for it.

With a good digital camera, and a cheap video camera, I can show you anything you want to know about a property without spending any money, and post it to my weblog, hosted for free by google, and then drive traffic to my weblog through free craigslist and backpage ads.

That's why many of us don't provide floor plans. Our businesses depend on providing our clients with as much value for their dollar as possible, and we get very little value from buying floor plans compared to the other options that are available.

Who said anything about a professional floorplan? The main thing I want to know is where rooms are located in the house. I want to know if the bedrooms are grouped together, bathroom locations, etc. This can be done in less than 30 minutes in MS Paint.

I have said before that video would be excellent, but the way real estate sites are set up, it would need to be hosted off-site, so a little more challenging. A floorplan could be uploaded as a house picture and requires less extra work. I'm talking maximum return for little effort.

136   propmgrjay   2011 Dec 17, 9:12am  

StoutFiles says

This can be done in less than 30 minutes in MS Paint.

I have tried many times to create a floor plan on my own using many different programs, including MS Paint. I've never been able to create one that looked decent. I've decided that I am not able to create a decent looking one on my own. That is why only a professionally made floor plan is an option, and for reasons I specified earlier, that's out of the question also.

I can take good photos though, and I can shoot adequate videos, so I use photos and videos instead.

That is why I do not provide floor plans, and I suspect it's why many other realtors don't as well. You asked, I answered. I can't help it if you don't like the answer.

137   propmgrjay   2011 Dec 17, 9:19am  

TechGromit says

I really don't see a different between this than say McDonald's advertising one of there burgers.

The difference is McDonalds advertisements aren't regulated by the DRE, they aren't scrutinized by real estate attorneys, they are not usually litigated, and they are not usually investigated by the Fair Employment and Housing Authorities. Real estate ads and marketing materials frequently are.

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