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2011 Oct 19, 12:48am
Will the Occupy Wall Street protesters influence any government or economical change?
Yes 3%
No 91%Poll: Do you think the "Occupy Wall Street" protests are effective?
Yes 7%
No 88%
There is no way in hell all of there demands are going to be met
Besides lack of common focus, there is or was no up front common demand, or expected outcome.
They are the perfect political puppet weapon.
Any Asshole can harness their power, just by claiming "My People have spoken!", then hijack them by injecting his agenda.
and who could deny it. There wasn't a common voice to start with, and there never will be.
Regardless intention or result, who ever becomes that "Spokesperson" will own the operation from then on.
There's even now an official OWS donation account set up. I'd love to see exactly how that money gets spread out, if it even does. Or how it is used to benefit all protestors beyond the Emerald Green pavilion tent, and Weber Gas grill in the general vacinity of the dude that has the wardship of the OWS trust.
I really think 90% of all of the worlds protests is just part of the internet flashmob craze. This is a global flashmob, for most of the participants. If I didn't have a job and family. I'd be down there too, haven't bathed in weeks, front and center with my Git-tar playing purdy music for the hula girls.
I think my other post dissappeared?
First of all, using a right leaning Washington Times poll is obviously going to be against OWS. So we can throw those numbers out the window.
Second, the government has been a crap shoot for 10+ years and you're already complaining about OWS affectiveness? How long has OWS been going on? A couple of months? Give this some time and be grateful it even started.
Vicente
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2011 Oct 19, 1:02am
Very few public protest movements have a single goal or cohesive vision and leadership. Does the Temperance Movement count? They were single-issue and highly successful. However even there you had competing groups and visions, that were I think a bit suprised by what they actually ended up with for legislation.
This was poll was conducted by the Washington Times:
Will the Occupy Wall Street protesters influence any government or economical change?
Yes 3%
No 91%Poll: Do you think the "Occupy Wall Street" protests are effective?
Yes 7%
No 88%
Don't ever take the Washington Times seriously, it's basically a tabloid that makes shit up.
However, I would posit that the same was set about Teabaggers back in the day when they were just known as a bunch of racist rednecks who complained about government healthcare and taxes without a coherent platform even though some of them are on government healthcare and almost half don't pay federal income tax. And the Teabaggers haven't gone worldwide like Occupy Wall Street has.
It's still hilarious to me that Teabaggers types denigrate Occupy Wall Street. Many of the same goals, you people, many of the same goals. The banksters fucked us, and anyone who shouts it should be worthy of praise.
If Occupy Wall Street is really no big deal, then why is Rush Limbaugh so scared of it?
EightBall
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2011 Oct 19, 7:13am
It's still hilarious to me that Teabaggers types denigrate Occupy Wall Street. Many of the same goals, you people, many of the same goals. The banksters fucked us, and anyone who shouts it should be worthy of praise.
Sure, same goals...
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.
There are far too many left wing nutjobs in this protest to draw normal people into the fold - similar to the right wing nutjobs in the tea party that keep it on the opposite fringe. Have we not learned that fringe politics gets us nowhere - but the fringe?
FortWayne
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2011 Oct 19, 8:24am
If they were pointless, there wouldn't be arrests. Massive arrests happen only when someone really high up is uncomfortable.
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A lot of attention has been given to the wall street protests recently and all I can say it's just a bunch of noise. At least the protests in Egypt had a common purpose, they wanted Mubarak and his allies out of office. And with a common goal they eventually got what they wanted. There are a hundred different signs when you see the wall street protests, they do not have a common goal, thus they will not accomplish any of them. If they could just unite and just focus on one thing, it could very well make politicians sit up and take notice and made a positive change for all of us. It's going to be impossible to satisfy hundreds of different goals, and they will accoplish none of them.
It's just noise right now.