What's so wrong with communisum?

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What's so wrong with communisum?

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2011 Nov 28, 7:30pm 33,036 views 129 comments

by EastCoastBubbleBoy ➕follow (2) 💰tip ignore

OK - I'm ready to get skewered for even posting this one...

A long long time ago (I think i was in High School, perhaps even middle school) I wrote a paper on communism. I've always felt that the system has certain merits when applied to small groupings, but begins to break down when applied to larger society. Further - said breakdown is partially due to the fact that there is nothing to keep those tasked with distributing the goods amongst the people from taking a disproportionate share for themselves, particularly in the absence or a strong moral framework or religious underpinning to keep everyone on the same plane. Lets face it - human nature is to horde - to consume more, more more. There is no natural inclination to help others unless there is a perceived benefit (be it current or future) in doing so.

In short some form of "moral communism" can work on small scales - but it breaks down when applied to larger society. Why? and could some tweaks allow one to come up with a "better" system, perhaps one that can be a viable alternative to the representative democracy we have in place now?

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marcus 2011 Dec 10, 2:37pm

If you talked him out of his faith, would that make you feel good ?

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Zeke1964 2011 Dec 10, 11:04pm

Marcus,
After what I've experienced in my life, there isn't a chance of it. They can debate words, but they can't debate the love of Jesus Christ and everything the Holy Spirit has done for me and my family.
My challenge continues to be to them to be honest with themselves and ask the Lord Jesus to reveal Himself to them, with an open heart. I doubt that this is possible right now because I detect such a spirit of hate and bitterness towards Christ.

Why waste time on multiple Gods when I honor and worship the one true God?
Thanks, Zach

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marcus 2011 Dec 10, 11:27pm

It's not hate and bitterness. It's just that they too are invested in their beliefs. It's sort of like logic is their Jesus.

Personally I don't have the faith that you do, nor is Jesus or a personal God at the center of my spiritual beliefs. But I respect you for having the faith you do, and have no interest in trying to change you.

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Zeke1964 2011 Dec 10, 11:35pm

Ha, good catch!

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Zeke1964 2011 Dec 10, 11:39pm

thanks Marcus...
I wish that everyone knew Jesus as I do. It's a shame but most Christian churches don't accept having a personal relationship with Christ. It's written in the book of Acts...wait for the comforter who will come in my name. He' still available 2,000 years after Jesus accended into the heavens.
Z

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uomo_senza_nome 2011 Dec 10, 11:54pm

LOL, this thread should probably move to religion section because it has veered off so far away from the subject of communism.

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Dan8267 2011 Dec 11, 2:32am

marcus says

If you talked him out of his faith, would that make you feel good ?

It would make me feel good about our species. Irrationality is what's going to lead to the destruction of mankind whether through nuclear fire or ecological collapse. We're facing a few Litmus tests here. If we pass, we colonize the galaxy. If we fail, we go extinct. Religion and other forms of irrationality keeps pushing us towards extinction.

And don't think that a population of 7 billion can't go extinct if we render the Earth a lot less hospitable to human life.

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Dan8267 2011 Dec 11, 2:34am

marcus says