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Patrick says

we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt

Jefferson himself was in great debt when he died.

Yes, I learned that at some point. Amazing that a guy so smart could let that happen.

Another selfless lass interested in the personality, kindness, nurturing skills, insights, charm and merits of the drone.

Ceffer says

While they think God only wants the thin and attractive folks.

HeadSet says

While they think God only wants the thin and attractive folks.

Gluttony is a sin fat fucks automatically don't go.

RC2006 says

Gluttony is a sin fat fucks automatically don't go.

Not all fat people are fat because of guttony. Sure there are people who over eat and keep eating after they aren't hungry.
But many get a blown out back or some other debilitating injury, and they become less active consuming more calories than they are capable of burning.
Some people are don't even have a frame that suited one way or another. They look like a rolled up rug no matter what size they are.
Those that hate on fat people because it's the thing to do. Will be rewarded by Karma with the fat gift of Irony one day.
There are more fit people going to hell for vanity than there are overweight people that are fat due to gluttony.

Tenpoundbass says

Not all fat people are fat because of guttony.

No, not all, but nearly all. The US has an abundance of cheap high calorie food and thus a high population of overweight people. Human anatomy seems to be designed for calorie shortages, so the fat storage system in adults will pack away the excess as fat. The cure is to eat less while keeping activity up. If eating less was not a cure, then gastric bypass and stomach stapling would not work.

HeadSet says

The US has an abundance of cheap high calorie food and thus a high population of overweight people.

The US has a serious lack of abundantly cheap and accessible sustenance, the alternative is starvation.

I don't subscribe to the "Ideal" body fat index. Some people look great with up to 20 extra pounds, some people look like a duffle bag stuffed with raw chicken.
It doesn't make super skinny the ideal body shape or size. As far as what I would call Morbidly obese, they are not as common as the petty shit munches that pushes fat divide and conquer canard would have everyone believe. Sure they are out there, but they aren't a plurality of the population that they are made out to be. More over, they are none of my fucking business, and I would dare to wager, they are none of yours.

Keep talking shit about the fat people. I cautioned Patnet way back before he converted the open source chat website into the new Patnet. That the only purpose of the fat shaming was, solely to get people divided, while they jacked up food prices and created a serious food security problem in this country, and lack of cheap affordable nutrition. It just didn't add up, that Moose Obama a fat ass chuncker himself, was harping on fat people while not doing a damn fucking thing to make healthful food abundant and affordable. The exact opposite was happening. So instead of bitching about fat people, where's the rage in the intentional destruction of America's food distribution infrastructure?

Everyone laughed at me, when I told them where this was headed, and by God that's exactly what happened.

Do you really give a fuck about all of the fat people living in your head, than you do the fast approaching $30 chicken?

Tenpoundbass says

More over, they are none of my fucking business, and I would dare to wager, they are none of yours.

Pointing out that overeating causes overweight does not mean I want to ban food, any more than saying alcohol causes drunkenness means that I want to ban bars. If people want to get fat or drunk, I could not care less. Just do not say that overeating and boozing have nothing to do with the end result.

Eric Holder says

Hey she wanted an island in her kitchen but only after they put in a $20K floor.
If they go to a Builder Architectural store, and not your local Home Creepo, they could find some very nice cylinder cladding to make a column.

What I hate are those ridiculous pendent lights. I have people asking me to hang them in bathrooms, tiny bathrooms at that. Have them dangle down in front of the mirror. I'm like "How in the fuck are you going to shave or pop your pimples with a light dangling down in front of your face?"

Those pendent lights will be one of those embarrassing things that people have to pay to rip out and replace when we move on to the next THING.

Eric Holder says

House must be on a slab foundation, as it would have been easy enough to drill a hole in the floor hidden on the inside of the island cabinet. Maybe it is an apartment and no access below.

Ceffer says

And by holding the puffer fish in their mouths, a small amount of the tetratoxin in pufferfish's skin also reaches the dauphin's tongue, giving a tingling sensation then a high. The effect is likely equivalent to a drunken soccer game, or playing lawn darts while drinking and smoking pot.

Tenpoundbass says

The US has a serious lack of abundantly cheap and accessible sustenance, the alternative is starvation.

IMHO, the overweight health problem (diabetes and pre-diabetes / fatty-liver syndrome) in the US is due to too much cheap and easily obtainable/storable starch fried in vegetable seed oil. Starch triggers insulin response, and 2-4hrs later makes the person feel hungry (due to insulin scrubbing blood sugar) therefore eat more. Vegetable seed oils are all very inflamatory (often also having Hexane in it from production process). If people would eat more real meats (including eggs) and vegetable/fruits, and skip the cheap and easy industrially fried starch, they'd be much healthier. I used to lose 10lb/mo whenever I switched to meat+fruit/veggie diet.

Edit: "cheap" as in ingredients are cheap to the industrial manufacturers; the price to consumer may not be all that cheap. The real riddle is how to convince busy parents to buy a couple pounds of chicken or a pound of beef or 2 dozens of eggs, instead of a big bag of potato chips or corn chips. The consume prices are not that far apart from each other, but the profit margin to manufacturers is a lot higher on the fried crap chips. The subsequent profit margin to the medical / pharma establishment is even higher, much higher. At least the annual sales of sugar water (bottled and canned soda under brand names) have been coming down in recent years, so there's some good news on that front.