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This waiting game is getting old


               
2012 Feb 21, 8:48am   46,088 views  97 comments

by nw888   follow (0)  

We're looking for a $1.4-2.2M house in the Los Angeles area, and although the prices have come down a little, it's taking much longer than the rest of the housing market. I always see homes on the internet where the buyer purchased it at the height of the bubble, and is now trying to get out without incurring a loss, or better yet is trying to make a profit. I'm assuming the only thing to do is wait for these homes to go into foreclosure or sell as a short sale?

I was hoping to buy in 2012, but maybe 2014 will be better? I've been waiting for years for this whole mess to unfold, and it's infuriating that we can't speed up the inevitable.

#housing

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1   Hysteresis   @   2012 Feb 21, 9:00am  

housing market doesn't care that you're impatient. it'll correct when it corrects. it's an incredibly slow process.

you have all the power. you decide if you'll buy now, or wait for the market to come to you.

most people buy as soon as they can because they want instant gratification and lack discipline.

i prefer to be the last one to buy after everyone else. i like investing (not houses but stocks/bonds) and know how important it is to be patient.

2   LAO   @   2012 Feb 21, 9:27am  

Hysteresis says

i prefer to be the last one to buy after everyone else. i like investing (not houses but stocks/bonds) and know how important it is to be patient.

Why don't you just invest in a deluxe coffin.. Because you'll be spending far more time in that then your home if you are hoping to be the "last one to buy"! :)

3   Hysteresis   @   2012 Feb 21, 12:30pm  

LAO says

Hysteresis says

i prefer to be the last one to buy after everyone else. i like investing (not houses but stocks/bonds) and know how important it is to be patient.

Why don't you just invest in a deluxe coffin.. Because you'll be spending far more time in that then your home if you are hoping to be the "last one to buy"! :)

maybe i should've clarified: last one to buy after all the bubble heads bought...

4   everything   @   2012 Feb 21, 12:34pm  

If your waiting for the 1% to lose their homes, you be waiting quite a long time. With that kind of money/backing you should be able to wheel and deel.

5   EastCoastBubbleBoy   @   2012 Feb 21, 12:39pm  

Timing the market is difficult. My advise is rather than try to forecast when (or if) prices will drop –know what you can spend and stick to it. Try to find value, but be realistic – the price the market will bear may be more than your personal “valuation”. You can’t compete with stupid. Rates are still low and prices aren’t going up rapidly any time soon so as of right now, time is still on your side. Heck I’ve been waiting for over ten years – no exaggeration.

At some point personal circumstances may necessitate you make a move – even if it is reluctantly. So long as you are in the game for the long haul (ten plus years) and don’t stretch to the limit of your means, you should end up fine no matter what.

6   JodyChunder   @   2012 Feb 21, 1:34pm  

Way I see it if you got millions to spend on a house, you shouldn't worry about bubbles.

7   tdeloco   @   2012 Feb 21, 1:45pm  

nw888 says

it's taking much longer than the rest of the housing market.

The name of the game is kick the can down the road.

Hysteresis says

it's an incredibly slow process.

Do you understand the science of can kicking? Our politicians are deliberately slowing down the correction in hopes of maintaining the supposed status quo.

EastCoastBubbleBoy says

Rates are still low and prices aren’t going up rapidly any time soon so as of right now

We're in the ZIRP Liquidity trap. Rates cannot go up a significant amount.

8   RentingForHalfTheCost   @   2012 Feb 21, 1:53pm  

You know what is getting even older? All that lumber on the 25-40 year old million dollar homes. Go ahead, buy one and break it down and see.

I agree with other comments, though. The price range you are considering puts you in a class where conventional mortgages hardly play. These owners are normally much more wealthy than just the house, so can weather better as you can see. The problem is people who had all their wealth (leveraged 5-1, sometimes 10-1, sometimes infinity-1) and now are poorer than when they were born. Sucks

9   Grimydazzle   @   2012 Feb 21, 2:00pm  

Outside of Santa Monica and the Palisades, you can buy a lot of house with 1.4 to 2.2M, and prices have come down form the peak. Granted the price ranges that have been the most affected have been condos under 1M.

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