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How to buy a house without using a buyer's agent?


               
2012 Mar 1, 1:45pm   20,350 views  39 comments

by 1sfrenter   follow (2)  

I am hoping that RE agents eventually go the way of travel agents and the dodo bird.

Would like advice on how to buy a house without using a buyer's agent. Sheesh, all they do is open some lock boxes for you (can't the listing agent do that?) and drive you around in their big fancy cars (no thanks I can drive myself to open houses). In 2 months he hasn't told me about anything that I didn't already find listed online myself.

If you know what you want and you know the neighborhood and the comps, do you really need a buyer's agent?

Can't I just go to several of the top-selling listing agents in the neighborhoods I want to live and tell them what I am looking for. When a house I want comes up, offer dual agency and hire my own RE lawyer and inspector.

What are the pros and cons of this? What am I missing?

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31   rootvg   2012 Mar 7, 2:03am  

E-man says

You're not missing anything. I think that's a fantastic idea. I recommend you find the property yourself. Knock on the door and ask if the homeowners want to sell their home to you. Save 6% commission. Remember, the 6% commission is built into the sale price. You're the one that's bringing money to the table to close the deal. Make sure knock the 6% off of the purchase price and put it in your pocket.

Come on. You can do it. Actually, anybody can do it. That's a lot of money/savings for very little work. I bet you would enjoy doing it too. Go for it, and report it back to us on what you've learned so we can learn it from you too.

Seriously, who needs a listing agent and a buyer's agent? Only a fool would use a realtor to list and sell their home. Go with FSBO. :)

Learn from your victory. Prosper from your failure.

Anybody can but most people don't.

We saw a lot of this in Ohio in the seventies. The industrial jobs went away (sort of the same way in which construction, real estate and finance jobs have gone away here) and that six percent suddenly became a lot of money.

32   gregpfielding   2012 Mar 7, 2:07am  

E-man says

You're not missing anything. I think that's a fantastic idea. I recommend you find the property yourself. Knock on the door and ask if the homeowners want to sell their home to you. Save 6% commission. Remember, the 6% commission is built into the sale price. You're the one that's bringing money to the table to close the deal. Make sure knock the 6% off of the purchase price and put it in your pocket.

Nothing wrong with this at all. Find a neighborhood you like and go for it. And if you guys decide you need help with paperwork, you could hire and agent or lawyer for a small fee to help you out.

33   rootvg   2012 Mar 7, 2:14am  

gregpfielding says

E-man says

You're not missing anything. I think that's a fantastic idea. I recommend you find the property yourself. Knock on the door and ask if the homeowners want to sell their home to you. Save 6% commission. Remember, the 6% commission is built into the sale price. You're the one that's bringing money to the table to close the deal. Make sure knock the 6% off of the purchase price and put it in your pocket.

Nothing wrong with this at all. Find a neighborhood you like and go for it. And if you guys decide you need help with paperwork, you could hire and agent or lawyer for a small fee to help you out.

East Bay Real Estate Agent and Blogger

If more people do this, the realtor jobs will begin to disappear. That also happened in Ohio during the seventies and eighties.

The realtor my landlord used as a representative to handle his paperwork just retired. I suspect part of that was about her age and the other part was about her technological illiteracy and scarcity of listings. She's seventy and figured it was time to let someone else do it.

34   rootvg   2012 Mar 7, 2:30am  

1sfrenter says

gregpfielding says

Selling (buyers') agents really earn their money by helping educate their clients about neighborhoods and the local market.

I've been a renter in the neighborhood where we hope to buy for the last 20 years. Following the bubble pretty closely since 2000.

Most everything you need to know is on line now (comps, sales history of a certain house, property taxes, etc.) Between MLS, Redfin, Trulia, zillow, the assessor's parcel info. online and property shark, anyone who is at all comfortable on the web can find out a lot.

BusinessWeek did a story on this several years ago. They said technology is doing to residential real estate salesmen what it did to car salesmen about ten years ago. Information is now widely available and the technology to access that information is highly pervasive. There's really no such thing as getting screwed at a car dealership anymore. I know plenty of people who don't even buy new cars these days. I haven't bought a new car in over ten years and don't know if I ever will again thanks to Craigslist.

35   gregpfielding   2012 Mar 7, 5:17am  

rootvg says

They said technology is doing to residential real estate salesmen what it did to car salesmen about ten years ago. Information is now widely available and the technology to access that information is highly pervasive. There's really no such thing as getting screwed at a car dealership anymore.

There is a big difference between real estate salespeople and car salespeople. Cars are commodities. You can shop between dealers for the exact same cars to get the best deal. The cars don't "sell themselves" in terms of where you buy them. Car salespeople have to "sell" you right then and there. In effect, they aren't selling the car, they are selling the deal. People find the car they want, then shop for the best deal.

Houses, by contrast are much more unique and individual. People find the house they want, and then try and get that specific home for an acceptable price. It's not like they can go buy that exact same house at a different dealership. Real estate salespeople do much more facilitating a deal then hard-selling a deal.

36   freak80   2012 Mar 7, 5:39am  

Realtors will be replaced by machines. Just like the rest of us will be.

37   rootvg   2012 Mar 7, 5:46am  

wthrfrk80 says

Realtors will be replaced by machines. Just like the rest of us will be.

I think that's a little extreme.

Not everyone thinks as we do. Not everyone lives in a place that's as wealthy and progressive as this. The area where my father's family lives has changed very little in the last twenty years. It's the one place I head to when I need to get away but also have access to internet and phone if the excrement hits the oscillator at work and the on call needs to find me. I called my boss and checked in from our rented SUV on an old forest road on top of a 3000 ft mountain in central Pennsylvania. I was away but yet I was there...and it felt really damn good.

38   freak80   2012 Mar 7, 6:05am  

I guess I'm guilty of getting off topic.

39   zzyzzx   2012 Mar 8, 4:21am  

rootvg says

BusinessWeek did a story on this several years ago. They said technology is doing to residential real estate salesmen what it did to car salesmen about ten years ago. Information is now widely available and the technology to access that information is highly pervasive. There's really no such thing as getting screwed at a car dealership anymore. I know plenty of people who don't even buy new cars these days. I haven't bought a new car in over ten years and don't know if I ever will again thanks to Craigslist.

Last time I bought a car was October 1995!

gregpfielding says

Houses, by contrast are much more unique and individual. People find the house they want, and then try and get that specific home for an acceptable price. It's not like they can go buy that exact same house at a different dealership. Real estate salespeople do much more facilitating a deal then hard-selling a deal.

You can usually get a home that's close enough. The whole thinking that housing is unique is mostly in your head.

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