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I would never, ever, have tried to detain anyone that I did not see doing a crime with my own eyes. ANd I do not mean I seen them yesterday do a crime, because I would not detain in the instance either. I would only perform a citizens arrest if I was stopping a crime in progress. Period. So, until Martin hit me, he was free to come and go as he pleased. At no time would I suggest that Zim should have tried to hold Martin until the physical attack began.

I have not been arrested, but I have been asked to come in to be questioned, and I have responded to a few bench warrants. You?

I have never hurt a woman. You?

I have been falsely accused of LOTS of stuff. You?

I have done lots of stuff that I am not proud of. You?

lol, at any rate, nothing that I have heard indicates that Zim tried to detain Martin, and nothing makes detaining Martin an acceptable choice unless Zim saw him commiting a crime. So, until, or if, Martin hit Zim, Zim should not have laid a finger on Martin. Not even reach up and grab his sleeve to spin him around and talk to him. Just my opinion. Do you agree?

Bap33 says

I have not been arrested, but I have been asked to come in to be questioned, and I have responded to a few bench warrants. You?

No, I have not been arrested.

Bap33 says

I have never hurt a woman. You?

No.

Bap33 says

I have been falsely accused of LOTS of stuff. You?

No.

Uh.... wait, you have been accused of a lot of crimes? Were lots of unrelated people accusing you of similar incidents? If so you might want to reflect on how "false" the accusations were.

Bap33 says

I have done lots of stuff that I am not proud of. You?

I would not say "lots", but yeah I have done stuff I am not proud of.

Bap33 says

nothing makes detaining Martin an acceptable choice unless Zim saw him commiting a crime.

Agreed.

Bap33 says

So, until, or if, Martin hit Zim, Zim should not have laid a finger on Martin.

Agreed.

Bap33 says

Not even reach up and grab his sleeve to spin him around and talk to him. Just my opinion. Do you agree?

Agreed and if Zimmerman had tried to detain Martin, then it would have been within Martin's right to use force to resist being detained. You agree?

I think that we fundamentally disagree on Zimmerman's personality profile.

That said, what about Martin's profile? You don't buy any of the many interviews on Zimmerman's personality, but why do you think that Martin would be the type of person who, out of the blue, attacks the friendly neighborhood watch-person who asked him a few polite questions then made the mistake of turning his back on Martin? Why would Martin, who was not up to any criminal activity, do this after already having tried to run from Zimmerman?

Bap33 says

next to his vehicle ... where he planned to meet the repsonding police ... yep, it is possible.

You say this so matter of factly in the middle of your rant...I almost missed it. But you do know that the confrontation happened in the backyard where there was a concrete walking path behind a house, right? It wasn't within 50 yards of the street. Look at the police report decription of the two addresses where they found Martin's body. Then google map those two addresses. Their backyards are adjacent to each other.

It was nowhere near Zim's car.

Ugh. The guy wasn't racist. Last year he got on the police about trying to cover up their beating of a homeless black man.

Trial hasn't even started and already the defense is lying to the court.

Zimmerman's defense team stated during an April court hearing that Zimmerman's "family members misinformed the court (the state would use a much stronger and accurate word to describe what occurred -- defendant's wife lied to the court) about defendant and his family's finances," Corey wrote in court papers.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/01/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html

Dan8267 says

Trial hasn't even started and already the defense is lying to the court.

SHOCKED, I am shocked I tell you!

You mean to tell me that the nice young man defending his neighborhood is the type of person to tell a lie!

PORT CANAVERAL --

A termination hearing Friday will decide whether a Port Canaveral police officer will lose his job over allegations he brought targets resembling Trayvon Martin to a gun range.

Sgt. Ron King was terminated by Port Canaveral’s police chief last Friday. He released a videotaped statement on Youtube late Saturday evening.

The incident happened at the Sheriff's Farm gun range near Interstate 95 in Cocoa on April 4.

King was leading a target practice with two other Port Canaveral police officers and another civilian port employee, according to port Canaveral Interim CEO John Walsh.

Walsh said King brought out the targets with a picture resembling Martin and asked the other officers if they wanted to use the picture for target practice.

The officers declined, and told King to put the picture back into his patrol car. They were all on duty that day.

In the YouTube video, King said he and the Trayvon Martin family were being used as pawns to further political agendas in the police department.

"I am being accused of using a Trayvon Martin silhouette target for firearms training in a manner that is less than professional. I take these allegations seriously and I find that others are accusing me of something that I just plain did not do," King said.

There's something really sad about a grown-ass man posing with a gun like a kid playing cops and robbers in the backyard.

And this one:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/41776_George_Zimmermans_Brother_Compares_Trayvon_Martin_to_Georgia_Baby-Killer_Suspect