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2012 Apr 2, 7:09am   221,734 views  614 comments

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This is the place to make suggestions for how Patrick.net can be most helpful to you and to discuss them.

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303   GreaterNYCDude   2022 Nov 26, 8:05am  

It might be on my end, but I notice now I'm getting automaticly logged out every week or so. Not the biggest deal, more a minor inconvenience.
304   Patrick   2022 Nov 26, 8:10am  

@GreaterNYCDude Huh, that should not happen and I have not noticed it myself.

Being logged in on patrick.net just means having a cookie in your browser that is an encrypted version of your password.

Sometimes people have their browser set to erase all cookies when they quit the browser. Could that be it?
305   Patrick   2022 Nov 26, 10:51am  

@cisTits @GreaterNYCDude

Can you look at the cookie expiration date in your browser's dev tools? For me, it looks like this:



(Don't paste the actual value of your cookie here or others can see it and become you.)

So the expiration date for the cookie in my browser is about 6 months from now.
306   Tenpoundbass   2022 Nov 26, 11:18am  

Patrick says

You can search for any of them by name, but you'd like some kind of search that lists them all at once, right?


Yes a searchable section dedicated to politicians, by office and party.
Perhaps on down the road, then I would like to be able make api calls to your Critter Catcher, you could become the go to source for such crowd sourced repository. Like the Craigslist, Wiki, or Facebook of who's who elected officials and would be candidates.

I would like to make a precinct map, and an aide for people to navigate their elected vermin vs heroes getting geo data for that is easy, getting info on the polls records on issues is not.
307   Patrick   2022 Nov 26, 11:41am  

Ballotopedia has a lot of the facts:

https://ballotpedia.org/Rand_Paul

But they do not let you write comments about the politicians, I think.
308   Patrick   2022 Nov 26, 12:05pm  

Maybe they are deliberately erasing the patrick.net cookie. I don't trust DDG.
309   Tenpoundbass   2022 Nov 26, 1:52pm  

Patrick says

Ballotopedia has a lot of the facts:


Ballotopia is curated glorified facts for some, and regurgitated MSM smears for others. It's not a collection of posted articles with discussions as they happened. The media likes to rewrite history and play selective memory, it would be nice to have the receipts from when the episodes were unfolding before the media can spin and clean it.
310   Tenpoundbass   2022 Nov 26, 4:28pm  

Also with your critter catcher, people will post in them when RINOs vote with Dems on issues, that undermined our interests. Ballotopia only tracks bills they sponsored, not how they voted, or the detriment it had on their base at the time. People forget these events, it would be nice to have a place to replay the tape. We're looking for Backstabbing events, or Hero events, not general official records. Nobody remembers the ramifications of those when the next election cycle comes.
311   Patrick   2022 Nov 26, 7:32pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Yes a searchable section dedicated to politicians, by office and party.
Perhaps on down the road, then I would like to be able make api calls to your Critter Catcher, you could become the go to source for such crowd sourced repository. Like the Craigslist, Wiki, or Facebook of who's who elected officials and would be candidates.


How would this be different from search right now? If you know a Congressman's name and put it in, you will find a page for them.

I do plan to make an API so that people can use patrick.net programatically, or by using the API in an app (though I hate apps).
312   richwicks   2022 Nov 27, 7:51pm  

I have two suggestions:

1) I want the ability to tag a comment do I can refer back to it. Some things take days or weeks to research. I can bookmark them (and do), but it would be nice to have the ability to tag/untag a comment

2) It would be nice to have a list of responses to what I've written. I know this is sent in email, but I think it would be better to have a pull down on responses you need to take note of.
313   Fortwaye   2022 Nov 27, 7:52pm  

richwicks says

I have two suggestions:

1) I want the ability to tag a comment do I can refer back to it. Some things take days or weeks to research. I can bookmark them (and do), but it would be nice to have the ability to tag/untag a comment

2) It would be nice to have a list of responses to what I've written. I know this is sent in email, but I think it would be better to have a pull down on responses you need to take note of.


like favorites? or just searchable tags?
314   richwicks   2022 Nov 27, 9:04pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


richwicks says


I have two suggestions:

1) I want the ability to tag a comment do I can refer back to it. Some things take days or weeks to research. I can bookmark them (and do), but it would be nice to have the ability to tag/untag a comment

2) It would be nice to have a list of responses to what I've written. I know this is sent in email, but I think it would be better to have a pull down on responses you need to take note of.


like favorites? or just searchable tags?



Searchable tags would be nice, but I think that's overkill. Say you can tag a comment with a name, and search based on that..

I'm thinking more like a website favorites.
315   Patrick   2022 Nov 29, 2:28pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Yes a searchable section dedicated to politicians, by office and party.


@Tenpoundbass OK, how about this:

https://patrick.net/post/1377838/2022-11-29-us-congressmen-lists
316   Patrick   2022 Nov 29, 3:19pm  

richwicks says

Searchable tags would be nice, but I think that's overkill. Say you can tag a comment with a name, and search based on that..


Well, every comment already has a unique id number, and you can find any comment by number like this:

https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=1902282

Or did you mean a way to give multiple comments the same tag?
317   richwicks   2022 Nov 29, 4:02pm  

Patrick says


Tenpoundbass says


Yes a searchable section dedicated to politicians, by office and party.


Tenpoundbass OK, how about this:

https://patrick.net/post/1377838/2022-11-29-us-congressmen-lists



I think just having a checkmark to the left to tag a post as something you need to follow up on would be nice.

I imagine having a button to the LEFT of a post might be difficult to implement but something like that would be ideal.

Basically, bookmarks for the site is what I suggest.
318   Patrick   2022 Nov 29, 4:21pm  

@richwicks OK, something like the existing "pinned" list for threads:

https://patrick.net/pinned?a=Patrick

But for comments instead, right?

It wouldn't say why you pinned a comment, but hopefully you'd remember why.
319   richwicks   2022 Nov 29, 4:45pm  

Patrick says

richwicks OK, something like the existing "pinned" list for threads:

https://patrick.net/pinned?a=Patrick

But for comments instead, right?

It wouldn't say why you pinned a comment, but hopefully you'd remember why.


That would be good enough. I mean, I just need to know "I promised to respond to this" - but it takes more than 5 minutes for me to do it. One I have to do, is read a law in Pennsylvania that legalized mail in voting.
320   Patrick   2022 Nov 29, 5:08pm  

OK, it's kind of a good time for this, since I was planning to merge the database tables for original threads and comments so that search could be unified. Right now there are separate tables and it's a pain.

After they are unified, then there can be just one kind of search, and one kind of pinning.
321   richwicks   2022 Nov 29, 5:11pm  

Patrick says

OK, it's kind of a good time for this, since I was planning to merge the database tables for original threads and comments so that search could be unified. Right now there are separate tables and it's a pain.

After they are unified, then there can be just one kind of search, and one kind of pinning.


Can I make a suggestion?

Make a PARALLEL system to start with if you're about to do an overhaul. If the underlying database isn't changing, you can run two interfaces at the same time on top of the DB.

Also - BACKUP.
322   Patrick   2022 Nov 29, 5:17pm  

I do have a reasonable daily backup system I think. Worst case, one day is lost. Eventually I hope to have all comments immediately mirrored to a different server, but that's time, money, etc.

For the db migration, I plan to take every thread, make the text of it a comment, and have that thread just be a kind of skeleton which just has a bit of metadata and points to the original post content in the comments table.

So everything is going to be a comment. A "thread" will just be a wrapper around the first comment, which is the original post.

The whole site should look and work pretty much the same, except that search and pinning will be just one thing instead of two.
323   richwicks   2022 Nov 29, 5:22pm  

Patrick says

I do have a reasonable daily backup system I think. Worst case, one day is lost. Eventually I hope to have all comments immediately mirrored to a different server, but that's time, money, etc.

For the db migration, I plan to take every thread, make the text of it a comment, and have that thread just be a kind of skeleton which just has a bit of metadata and points to the original post content in the comments table.

So everything is going to be a comment. A "thread" will just be a wrapper around the first comment, which is the original post.

The whole site should look and work pretty much the same, except that search and pinning will be just one thing instead of two.


Again if you like (and you probably don't), I can help you clone this machine and you can run it locally for development. Setting up a website in your home is easy, but the name of the site will change, and you'll need to open ports on your router, and to setup let's encrypt. I can show you how to do all that.
324   Patrick   2022 Nov 29, 6:28pm  

Thanks, but I've got this, no problem.
325   richwicks   2022 Nov 29, 7:06pm  

Patrick says

Thanks, but I've got this, no problem.


Well, I can see you're using Let's Encrypt still and have the script running for it.

Setting up your router to allow 80 and 443 passthrough is all you need to do to test locally at home - and REALLY you don't need that OR Let's Encrypt unless you plan to allow access by the wider world.

All you need to do is clone the virtual machine. To do that, setup a VM that is CLOSE to what you have here, and then use sudo apt --installed to get a list of packages you need and/or are missing.

SMTP won't work though, that's a BITCH to setup on anything other than an "approved" server.
326   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 3:24pm  

I reformatted thread lists (home page, author list, search results) to always have the user icon in the thread summary.

Also, the first image is much larger, and more of the text is included.
327   rocketjoe79   2022 Dec 5, 3:28pm  

Noticed the HUGE IMAGES and I liked it better the other way. I have to scroll a lot more to read the next set of thread titles. Compact is better!
328   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 3:42pm  

OK, I'll make them smaller.
329   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 3:45pm  

@rocketjoe79

How about now?
330   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 3:48pm  

Heck, I just removed images from post lists entirely, except for the author icons.

Cleaner, but then the site looks like mostly text.
331   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 3:58pm  

Actually, all of those changes sucked.

Reverted everything, so site is back how it was.
332   rocketjoe79   2022 Dec 5, 4:13pm  

Looks great again!
333   Fortwaye   2022 Dec 5, 4:17pm  

rocketjoe79 says


Looks great again!


make patnet great again!!!

didn’t want to miss an opportunity to say that
334   Hircus   2022 Dec 8, 8:13am  

@patrick

I noticed if I make a comment, then click edit, then submit my edited text, I get a "no such comment" error. It does however save my updated comment ok.
335   Onvacation   2022 Dec 8, 8:20am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

make patnet great again!!!

When was it not great?
336   Patrick   2022 Dec 8, 9:26am  

Hircus says


patrick

I noticed if I make a comment, then click edit, then submit my edited text, I get a "no such comment" error. It does however save my updated comment ok.


Thanks Hircus, definitely a recently introduced bug.
337   Patrick   2022 Dec 8, 10:13am  

@Hircus should be fixed now.
338   Patrick   2022 Dec 14, 3:20pm  

Image tagging was broken for a while. Fixed now.
339   Fortwaye   2022 Dec 14, 8:26pm  

Onvacation says


FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


make patnet great again!!!

When was it not great?



always great, but we just keep making it great
340   Patrick   2022 Dec 15, 5:25pm  

Left and right arrow keys now cause navigation to previous and next page of threads or comments.
341   HeadSet   2022 Dec 15, 5:31pm  

Patrick says

Left and right arrow keys now cause navigation to previous and next page of threads or comments.

Now you tell me. I just got taken off a page I was typing when I used an arrow key to move the cursor.
342   Patrick   2022 Dec 15, 5:33pm  

Oh shit.

Thanks for telling me @HeadSet

So what I need to do is detect that the text box is not selected. Or maybe I should just drop this whole idea.

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