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richwicks says

When opening up a reply or a post

@richwicks What do you mean by "opening up a reply or post"?

Do you mean editing it?

Patrick says

richwicks says

When opening up a reply or a post

richwicks What do you mean by "opening up a reply or post"?

Do you mean editing it?

No, I mean when you hit reply, I suggest a button that will open up a new window that explains how to do things, like underline, bold, post videos from various sites, and so on. An instruction manual.

It doesn't necessarily have to open a window if that's too difficult, just open up a frame that allows the person to see instructions. I will ignore it since I'm used to this site, but others may benefit.

How do you place a picture/photo at the title of a thread?

Thanks

@The_Deplorable If you're asking how to get a photo to appear next to the title on the home page or some other list of threads, it's just the first image included in the thread's original post.

Patrick says

"...it's just the first image included in the thread's original post."

Thank you!

selection in safari mobile, still no worky.

True, I have not been able to make it work.

The problem seems to be iPhone "security", which prevents javascript from seeing what you have selected.

You make posts impossible to delete after a point in time, you should also make it impossible to edit posts after the same point in time.

Hold our feet to the fire. Deleting a post is no different than making it possible to edit a post.

I have a ton of predictions here, I want to see where I was wrong and how OTHER people were wrong. I noticed I could edit a prediction from years ago. I didn't do it, I KNOW you can detect it, I want you to disallow it.

richwicks says

I have a ton of predictions here, I want to see where I was wrong and how OTHER people were wrong. I noticed I could edit a prediction from years ago. I didn't do it, I KNOW you can detect it, I want you to disallow it.

I'd agree with this. Though I thought this was brought up in the past and Patrick set it to 7 days to be able to edit? Maybe not?

Don't throw shit on the internet you're not willing to be called out on in the future is my take. Everyone has done stupid things in life, it's okay if someone calls you out later. I had 10 shots and 17 beers over 4 hours during college years. Yup, that was stupid. Almost died and the reason I don't drink hard alcohol from that day forward. It's okay to learn from the past. 20 plus years later and that mistake was one of my best having watched my BIL die from it by 42.

Being stupid has it's consequences and it's okay to be called out on your bull shit. Take it like a man.

I was on a red-eye flight from Maui to Dallas last week and I can't sleep on planes very well. So I loaded up lots of threads from patnet to read and realized I was the only one in the area who had a light on - my phone. So I dialed down the power on the phone screen but to read it I still needed it too bright.

I'm suggesting maybe a 'dark mode' would be nice that some website have that inverts the colors. It wouldn't have been so bad without that white background.

just_passing_through says

So I loaded up lots of threads from patnet to read and realized I was the only one in the area who had a light on - my phone.

It's not a bad suggestion. But who really cares about the light on a flight? If it's that difficult for your fellow passengers to sleep during a flight, is that your problem? If anything it's the sleeping passengers snoring that's the bigger annoyance. I can sleep for hours on a beach in broad daylight. I just did it two weeks ago.

I don't know, it's a tangent but I despise picky sleepers that need everything a certain way. ESPECIALLY in public. Bring ear plugs and eye shades if someone on their phone is an issue. Otherwise just die or charter a private jet. I've been next to screaming babies for 2 hours on a flight. I put my headphones on and had a few beers to drown out the annoyance. Is what it is. Oh and I fart on flights frequently. I'm a dick. Cool part is no one knows.

@just_passing_through

It's a good idea, and I added it at the top of my patrick.net todo list.

If anyone knows CSS well enough to send me a viable sample of how to do it, I'd be grateful for it. I can figure it out, but it will take me a bit. CSS is my weak point.

Patrick says

just_passing_through

It's a good idea, and I added it at the top of my patrick.net todo list.

If anyone knows CSS well enough to send me a viable sample of how to do it, I'd be grateful for it. I can figure it out, but it will take me a bit. CSS is my weak point.

https://css-tricks.com/a-complete-guide-to-dark-mode-on-the-web/

I'm going to second a recommendation from another member. That you take care to have a back-up plan if the site is taken off-line by the government or major Tech firm (probably acting on the government's behalf). Also, please have a way of communicating with members of the new site's location if you bring it back up.

Thanks @Misc

I do have a second server up on a different hosting service, though it would probably take me a few hours to get it up to date from backups and transfer the domain name.

If they block the domain name thing, I'll probably just use https://patrickdotnet.substack.com/ temporarily.

I do have everyone's email address (it's required for registration) so I can let people know the new site's location if they block the patrick.net domain name.

@Patrick

@UkraineIsFucked Yes, I just added that so that you don't have to move the mouse to open the file selection dialog. You can just press control-f instead. Saves me time since I upload so many screenshots and other images.

What I'd really like is for that dialog box to also select the most recent file in the current directory, but haven't figured out how to do that. May not be possible.

Hey, if you want to allow youtube videos again, you can do it through what promises (claims) is a private mirror of it:

Here's an original video from youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxUOssiSojk

Here's the instance from INVIDIOUS

https://iv.ggtyler.dev/watch?v=jxUOssiSojk

Here's the embed link, and I can demonstrate how to embed it, but basically it's done the same way as youtube was.

https://iv.ggtyler.dev/embed/jxUOssiSojk

The unique ID, in this case "jxUOssiSojk" remains the same from youtube to Invidious. Not all videos from youtube will be visible on Invidious as I understand it.

You can embed twitter videos if you like. For:

https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1775951120847749536

The code is:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><a href="https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1775951120847749536">Twitter Video</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's a little strange, using blockquote - but it works. The numeral 1775951120847749536 is all that needs to change. It's frequently followed by a bunch of additional garbage followed by ampersand to track crap. You may want to remove that.

@richwicks Thanks for this.

The downside is that I would need to allow script tags from Twitter, which would give them absolute control over patrick.net, including the ability to read and report back anything on that page, and the ability to alter or censor content.

All 3rd party javascript can read and change anything on the page where it is included. I was just complaining about this issue on tax prep websites:

https://patrick.net/post/1381117/2024-04-03-taxact-and-taxhawk-give-google-open

Patrick says

richwicks Thanks for this.

The downside is that I would need to allow script tags from Twitter, which would give them absolute control over patrick.net, including the ability to read and report back anything on that page, and the ability to alter or censor content.

All 3rd party javascript can read and change anything on the page where it is included. I was just complaining about this issue on tax prep websites:

https://patrick.net/post/1381117/2024-04-03-taxact-and-taxhawk-give-google-open

@Patrick - I'll see if I can hack it, so that it doesn't require any javascript, however, this might work for now, and break in the future. Let me fool around for a bit.

EDIT: NOPE! Somewhere, if you follow the code, you'll find out how it links to the actual video, but it's a reverse engineering policy, and I bet Twitter would bitch.

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I'm amused at how many people are button ignored on this site.

Patrick.net is a place where users can present their views backed by facts, evidence, articles, and shit they just make up. People can express their ideas without threat of censorship.* Others can argue about those ideas, backed by other facts, different evidence, articles from other sources, and shit they make up. To paraphrase the biggest rule, "argue about ideas, don't attack other users personally." Extra points for good grammar, spelling, white space, sources, and succinctness(oops).

On the way down the rabbit hole of the Internet I found this website. Before the housing crash I had a whole different world view. I wasn't political. I assumed the news was the truth. I claimed "Libertarian" because I believed in Liberty, Justice, and the American way, though I voted treedle dee over tweedle dum. I spent my days making money, my nights chasing women, and my weekends and vacations looking for the perfect wind and waves. I was brainwashed.

The last couple of decades have been a roller coaster ride where I have learned about... [so much]

I digress.

Ignores; Me and a bunch of others have 4; Patrick and another large group has 2. Some old time posters have 1 or 3; My favorites Woo Wizard Ceffer has 14; TPB has 12 and meme master Booger has 8. Y'all are missing some entertainment by pushing the button on these characters.

Suggestion: You don't have to use the ignore button. It is very easy to skim through known bull-shitter's posts. Occasionally they have something wise, entertaining, or informative to share. But do your own research and fact check those motherfuckers because they often spew made up shit.

* for the most part. Hardcore porn and calls for violence diminish credibility and open the site for liability.

Onvacation says

Others can argue about those ideas, backed by other facts, different evidence, articles from other sources, and shit they make up.

Lol, I never thought about it that way, but it's true.

Nothing here will be censored for being "misinformation".

Onvacation says

Suggestion: You don't have to use the ignore button. It is very easy to skim through known bull-shitter's posts.

Some people like to use the ignore button to punish.


>>Onvacation says

Ignores; Me and a bunch of others have 4; Patrick and another large group has 2. Some old time posters have 1 or 3; My favorites Woo Wizard Ceffer has 14; TPB has 12 and meme master Booger has 8.

Now I am feeling left out, as you did not notice I have 6.

Yo @Patrick

The stupid CA link tax just passed the Assembly.

Newsom is expected to sign it if it passes the Senate.

Is PatNet effected? If so, you plan to yank all the links to news articles like Google is doing?

HeadSet says

Some people like to use the ignore button to punish.

I'd agree with this.

Most ignores I have on me happened when I warned that Ukraine was going to lose against Russia, and that Russia wasn't entirely unjustified in the war.

I was right, but how dare I be right?

Now Ukraine is like all our other failed wars, forgotten. It will simmer forever, but our media won't make any mention of it, people will die, and it won't be long where people genuinely forget about it after spending 100's of billions and getting 100's of thousands killed.

All of it could be prevented if people just knew the truth. The US government is going to lie us into ANOTHER stupid war eventually, and people will just fucking buy the propaganda again.

richwicks says

Most ignores I have on me happened when I warned that Ukraine was going to lose against Russia, and that Russia wasn't entirely unjustified in the war.

I was right, but how dare I be right?

And I bet a lot them no longer come to PatNet because you were proven right.

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

And I bet a lot them no longer come to PatNet because you were proven right.

One guy was just livid with me that it was my conclusion.

I don't get it. I just see the whole thing as terribly tragic and preventable and Ukraine would win or lose no matter what I thought. Douglas Macgregor says it's like 300,000 Ukrainians dead, I hope that's not right.

The whole situation is so depressing that I find I can't deal with it any more. The whole situation was very predictable, and there's no point in fighting a war that you can't win in. I think everybody in our media are sociopaths. How many people are dead because they just kept saying "Ukraine is winning, it's going to be soon now!!!"

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Yo Patrick

The stupid CA link tax just passed the Assembly.

Newsom is expected to sign it if it passes the Senate.

Is PatNet effected? If so, you plan to yank all the links to news articles like Google is doing?

@UkraineIsTotallyFucked

Usually such laws are limited to large websites.

But also, isn't it an overt violation of the First Amendment for any law to restrict what I can link to?

richwicks says

I don't get it. I just see the whole thing as terribly tragic and preventable and Ukraine would win or lose no matter what I thought. Douglas Macgregor says it's like 300,000 Ukrainians dead, I hope that's not right.

Preventable. Russia was the invader. So yeah, it didn't need to get to this point. Macgregor is a dip shit and has been proven wrong for 3 years. That's the last person I'd bring up with Russia/Ukraine. Anyone that even mentions that dumb fucks name needs their head checked.

Ukraine won't "win" this assault on them. Russia has lost it in the long game. I shouldn't have to explain why Russia already lost. It's obvious as can be. You guys are counting bodies. Not strategy. Have a conversation when you wake up.

WookieMan says

I shouldn't have to explain why Russia already lost.

@WookieMan please explain it to me. I think Russia is clearly winning.

Patrick says

Usually such laws are limited to large websites.

But also, isn't it an overt violation of the First Amendment for any law to restrict what I can link to?

Responding to both points:

You got the money to fight this if they come after you?

I mean, the IRS are going after VENMO payments of $600 instead of the rich big fish.

Look, explain what your objection is.

Don't be do garbage of "this violates terms of service" - explain how it does. I can't correct if you can't explain where I'm wrong. You are just requiring me to fumble around to guess. I'll keep doing this until Patrick explains it, and you're not Patrick is my bet.

@Patrick, give whomever my email address. Let him explain it, and I will report what is written and let you judge.

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OK, I give up, what is the objection here?

I am sick of talking to people who insist that reality isn't reality. Ukraine was overthrown by the US, there's no disputing this, it went into 8 years of civil war as a result where the US funded and supported the Western side. The Minsk Accords were scuttled by Boris Johnson and undoubtedly by the United States which would have at least HAD a chance of preventing the civil war, there ARE BSL5 labs in Ukraine that are US operated and owned and we know this because Victoria Nuland admitted it in Congress during testimony, and several billion dollars have been spent on this whole mess while killing 100's of thousands of people.

And I still, people, insist "what the US gubermint says is twoo". "Russia invaded for NO REASON, and it's all their fault this war is here".

Our government makes the same boneheaded dickhead moves over and over and over again, kills 100's of thousands of people, has gotten this nation destroyed, and so what's the best thing to do - apparently? Don't even acknowledge what is going on, and censor people who fucking do. That's me.

Because having sociopaths run a society is a great idea isn't it?

WookieMan says

Preventable. Russia was the invader.

You just don't give two fucks about reality, do you?

The most obvious coup in all of world history, where the setup of the next government was intercepted 1/2 month before the coup took place. I've shown this to you a MILLION TIMES, and you just like to play dumb, and pretend it doesn't exist.

This is why I really can't decide are you really this stupid - I can't imagine anybody being this stupid really. Or are you a propagandist, and if you're a propagandist, why? Are you paid to peddle confusion and false information? What good does that do? 95% of American have forgotten the Ukraine war, and it's easy to make them an enemy of anything, just label whoever you want to demonize as "the next Hitler".

They've done it with Saddam Hussein, Bashir al-Assad, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Putin (let me make it so YOU can understand "Putler"), and they will do it again.

Why do you lie are are you really this dumb, did you forget we have ABSOLUTE PROOF that it was a CIA coup, and that Ukraine went into civil war almost IMMEDIATELY after the coup? Did you forget Victoria Nuland testified in congress we had bio-safety lab level 5's in Ukraine?

WookieMan says

Macgregor is a dip shit and has been proven wrong for 3 years.

Maybe.

WookieMan says

That's the last person I'd bring up with Russia/Ukraine. Anyone that even mentions that dumb fucks name needs their head checked.

Who are YOU bringing up? This dumb asshole?


original link

and I mean either one. The homosexual twat Vanderbilt who does nothing but lie, or the fat bearded man pretending he's a pilot who knows so little about jets, he didn't realize he can't have a fucking beard and be a jet pilot - oh and he speaks with what I THINK is a Sweedish accent?

Who the fuck would you bring up? I bring up Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt. They ARE the ones that had the conversation to pick out the next government of Ukraine before their "revolution". You will just pretend they don't exist, because you don't care about reality, at all. You just continue to lie. I consider that a very consequential moral failing. I consider you to be an immoral person because you deceive people, and you probably don't even do it for money.

WookieMan says

Ukraine won't "win" this assault on them. Russia has lost it in the long game.

Russia is doing great. I bet you never talk to Russians. Russians always felt a bit of shame they they were once a world power and lost it in 1991. They are now fighting this stupid proxy war, against the US, and winning.

Our government is run by such stupid fucking people, that they are claiming that Russia blew up the Nordstream. Russia doesn't really care, they can export to India or China, they don't need Europe, Europe needs them. Russia has better trade relationships with India and China as a result of this, sanctions don't effect them, they've rebuild some of their industrial capacity.

Who lost is the United States and Europe. The US fucked Europe by cutting off energy, and we can't supply them, not really. It's finally exposed our propaganda system as a propaganda system. "Oh, the Ukrainians used a yacht and blew up the Nordstream" - what just trivially stupid bullshit. Our propaganda is so fucking dumb, I can't believe that people quote it. My firned is convinced that the Norstream was blown up by the Russians, and I have had this conversation with him dozens of times, why would Russia blow up their own goddamned infrastructure, and he said "to blackmail Europe", well how the fuck are they going to do that if they can't turn on the gas again?

Just it's amazing that people can just believe the stupidest bullshit. You do. "Oh it's Russia's fault", yeah, the coup had nothing to do with it or the 8 year civil war and the BSL5 labs and so on. "Putler invaded for NO REASON AT ALL. I'm that fucking dumb!!" He spent 8 years trying to stop this shit, the Minsk Accords were there, Zelenskyy ran on the promise of implementing the Minsk Accords, and it was Boris Johnson and the US that stopped the implementation - but it's RUSSIA'S fault.

When I was talking to my friend a few days ago about the Nordstream, I literally can't believe that he really believes that. I have to consider that he's just fucking with me. I have attained a level of knowledge now where it's difficult not to see everybody around me as either insane, or just uneducated. Ignorance is fine, I don't mind that, but when I hear a propaganda slogan out of a person's mouth, it's shocking. "safe and effective", "Putler invaded for no reason at all" "Russia hacked our election". I know there are real genuine human beings, but whatever you are, you're not quite there.

And the exact objection is?

If somebody else has done the same thing I have, I will show it's been done to me, and you ignored it.

I give what I take. Let's see if you're objective.

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For fuck's sake, "moderating" a comment without telling me what the fuck the fucking fucking problem is with my comment is something fucking Facebook does, or YouTube, or Twitter.

What is the objection? Is it arbitrary? I have no fucking idea how to get into another person's mind to GUESS as to what the hell you are objecting to.

Patrick says

WookieMan says

I shouldn't have to explain why Russia already lost.

WookieMan please explain it to me. I think Russia is clearly winning.

He's just full of crap. At worst, this mess will be a Pyrrhic victory for Russia. It's going to create decades if not centuries of enmity. Another big win for the Neocons that love to create as much hatred and death as possible all across the planet for absolutely no discernible gain.

Let's just celebrate evil. That's what propaganda is for, to get people to support the most awful evil garbage policies and actions.

Onvacation says

Suggestion: You don't have to use the ignore button. It is very easy to skim through known bull-shitter's posts. Occasionally they have something wise, entertaining, or informative to share. But do your own research and fact check those motherfuckers because they often spew made up shit.

How the F does @Onvacation have one more ignore than me?

How the F does @Patrick have two ignores at all? I mean "I'm coming to Admin's site to ignore the Admin" is kinda... pointless.

Patrick says

WookieMan says

I shouldn't have to explain why Russia already lost.

WookieMan please explain it to me. I think Russia is clearly winning.

They invaded and expected to take over the country. They didn't. Loss #1. Now we sit here 3 years later roughly and they're still fighting. They already had mercenaries in the East of Ukraine for years before the "official" invasion. It's not about casualties in war. They've destroyed the land and infrastructure they wanted. Loss #2 Whether you like NATO or not, they have new NATO neighbors. Loss #3.

Yet this war is still going and probably won't stop for a while. Not sure how that's winning. Russia is losing plenty of men as well. Loss #4. I guess the better question is, what is a "win" for Russia? Ukraine is fucked, won't dispute that and never have. But I fail to see how Russia is winning in the long term. Putin isn't getting any younger. There will be a power grab internally. NATO countries will continue to feed weapons to Ukraine. You have Iran firing on Israel and Russia saying it would back Iran. They couldn't even overpower a neighboring country and now potentially might have a non-neighboring country to fight? lol.

The US ain't perfect in international affairs, but Russia is definitely stretching its resources thin and has not had a declarative victory in Ukraine. We'll see in 5 years or maybe longer. But this is not what winning looks like. When you lose more men in 3 years than we did in Afghanistan AND Iraq in 20 years, again, not winning. Birth rates in Russia will drop. Men that don't want to fight will flee the country. It's a demographic nightmare for Russia. That's not winning.

Germany and the Nazis "lost" WWII and WWI. Guess what, Germany is still there. This is my point. A "win" isn't actually a win in 20 years and that's been the issue for the USSR and Russian wars in the past. Did Russian forces move 100 meters forward yesterday, sure. Did they kill 10:1 sure. All for 100 meters of land they just destroyed that they wanted. Makes total sense and is winning.....

I say the conflict, if frozen today, is a mixed mag

* NATO ended up with two new members

* More NATO members are taking defense spending with at least some grudging, slovenly interest now whereas before they haughtily disregarded any military preparedness.

* Ukraine is a demographic basketcase

* Ukriane will be an economic basketcase once it comes loan repayment time. The fun for the Ukrainian Working Man is just beginning,

* The next election in Ukraine will be a basketcase with riots, chicanery, corruption, brazen media lies, and ballot stuffing that will make 2020 look legit.

* Russia doesn't look impressive being unable to slam it's way to at least to the Dneipr with a massive manpower and material advantage and hold it. Even if every Russian soldier was crosseyed, one-legged, half-starving, and their AK jammed three times for every 30-rounds fired requiring them to spend 10 minutes clearing it under fire. Hell, if they only had SKS and unarmored wheeled trucks they should have smashed everything by sheer weight of numbers.

* Their inability to do, if their generals had been 90-year old Cold War era guys who couldn't piss outside a catheter and just ran off the old echelon strategy or some imitation of it, was a big shock to me.

* Therefore, Russia outside of Nukes is an offensive non-entity. One should not take it as being a Defensive non-entity, because the bear in his den is different than the bear outside his territory if history is any guide.

* BUT, there's simply no way Crimea or Donbas goes back to Ukraine barring a miraculous concession by Western Powers.

WookieMan says

Preventable. Russia was the invader

Russia has a history of invading and slicing off bits of other countries or supporting the secession of breakaway bits that have a majority ethnic Russian population. Now you might understand how Eastern European countries resent to this day the invasion of ethnic Russians and their then first-class status and institution of an oppressive security apparatus (not that that could ever happen in the USA), but that be the way it be.

AmericanKulak says

* BUT, there's simply no way Crimea or Donbas goes back to Ukraine barring a miraculous concession by Western Powers.

And this is where we are. Russia can keep this going. So can the West. I don't see it going much further and I'm not sure that's a Russian victory since they were already in the Donbas from the word go years before the official invasion.

Ukraine is fucked either way. No debating that. I'd say this is going to be a stalemate/cease fire situation. No one definitively wins. Ukrainians lose more men screwing the future as you said demographically. Russia ain't winning in that realm either though, they just have more.