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2012 Apr 11, 1:24pm   35,772 views  77 comments

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My daily driver:

Trek Atwood with modifications
-taller adjustable-angle stem
-raised handlebars
-Portland Designworks leather ergo-grips
-Bontrager rear rack
-Bontrager grocery bag
-rear triangle kickstand
-bike tire liners (too many caltrops around here!)

Chariot Cougar trailer

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1   Tenpoundbass   2012 Apr 12, 12:39am  

Well well well, look who lives out in the Burbs.
I had you pegged for inner city brownstone boarder, sharing the shower with Ivan and Boris the Russian immigrant brothers, and a kitchen with Gypsy family from Honolulu.

2   Vicente   2012 Apr 12, 12:55am  

CaptainShuddup says

Well well well, look who lives out in the Burbs.

I live in a small town in the Central Valley, as clearly shown in my profile. There are no "burbs" here, the entire town is 10 square miles. My next door neighbor has chickens and crops out back not a friggin lawn.

Once again you make an ass out of yourself with wrong assumptions.

3   joshuatrio   2012 Apr 12, 12:58am  

Great thread ! I was actually thinking of starting something similar.

Here's my ride. Photo from google - but same bike.

4   freak80   2012 Apr 12, 1:29am  

Pimp my bike!

5   Michinaga   2012 Apr 12, 3:15am  

Vincente, that's a great setup! Does the trailer connect to the bike on both sides? If not, how does it stay balanced?

6   Vicente   2012 Apr 12, 3:24am  

Michinaga says

Vincente, that's a great setup! Does the trailer connect to the bike on both sides? If not, how does it stay balanced?

The quick-connect mount for it replaces the rear axle pin and provides a ball joint that the trailer hitch slips into. The "downforce" on the left side is so short of a distance from the center of gravity that the effect is negligible. Perhaps I tend to lean a millimeter to the right and am not even conscious of it.

Same thing with the grocery bag, it hangs low enough and close enough to the hub that the effect is small with my usual light load which is a lunchbox and maybe my jacket. If I were moving a bunch of heavy stuff I'd put my 2nd bag on the other side and distribute the load. With my usual trailer + single bag I put the bag on the right side usually, not for balance, but because the bag is a bit in the way when I go to attach/detach the trailer.

The ball joint ensures that if my bike falls over the trailer is not turned over as well.

The only special accomodation I made for the trailer was switch to a kickstand attached to the rear triangle. With a standard kickstand in the center it was more likely to fall over with trailer attached. I'm finding that the rear kickstand actually works better without the trailer though as well, so I'd consider it a good mod for anyone.

It's been a really great trailer, although the Velcro closures are a weak point they are starting to wear out and I'll have to do some sewing to replace. So I spent like $500 for the trailer new 4 years ago at REI. On the other hand 4 years of savings on $500/year parking pass at the university has more than paid for it. Preschool is on my route to work, I usally leave the trailer locked up outside his preschool, plus it makes it easy for Mrs. Vicente to pick him up if needed.

7   EBGuy   2012 Apr 12, 3:52am  

Well well well, look who lives out in the Burbs.
Weren't you clued in by his Prisoner garb? ;-)
Don't worry Vicente, CS is just jealous that you can ride your bike to pick up an ostrich burger.
If I am ambitious tonight, I will post a picture of my three child hauler (two child Burley trailer plus kangaroo seat). Don't worry, they're not all mine.

8   Vicente   2012 Apr 12, 3:59am  

joshuatrio says

Here's my ride. Photo from google - but same bike.

What model is that? Any changes from stock? Post a real pic. Always curious about customizations and choices people make and why.

I went with a sturdy "hybrid" style steel bike. I've never really ridden road bikes, maybe I should give it a try. I am jealous when those folks whiz past me. At 40+ though I feel the bent-over posture every day would get to me, hence my mods to raise the grips and allow a more upright posture.

Later I'll post a picture of my old bike, and how it schooled me on what I really wanted in the next one.

9   Tenpoundbass   2012 Apr 12, 4:36am  

Vicente says

Once again you make an ass out of yourself with wrong assumptions.

YESS!!! I want to thank my coach, and my moms and most of all god, I give a 110% because I'm a warrior, people said I couldn't make a bigger ass out of my self, but just wanted to show all of the haters out there, any thing is possible if you set your mind to it.

10   joshuatrio   2012 Apr 12, 6:11am  

Vicente says

What model is that? Any changes from stock? Post a real pic. Always curious about customizations and choices people make and why.

2011 Specialized Sirrus. No mods, mine looks the exact same except the rear derailleur cable is white and the pedals are cheapo origin8. I have a kiddie trailer as well. Will snap a couple pics if I have time tonight.

Vicente says

I went with a sturdy "hybrid" style steel bike. I've never really ridden road bikes, maybe I should give it a try. I am jealous when those folks whiz past me. At 40+ though I feel the bent-over posture every day would get to me, hence my mods to raise the grips and allow a more upright posture.

This one is pretty sturdy and pretty light with a carbon fork. I sit pretty upright on it, and find it very comfortable for my 8-11 mile commute (depending on the route I take).

The tires are pretty narrow, although, not narrow like a real road bike. Overall its' really comfortable. Ended up getting a sweet deal on CL for it, using the barter forum, and actually made money on the deal.

11   Vicente   2012 Apr 13, 3:24am  

What started me on cycling was actually mountain biking in the early 1990's. I got a Trek 830 and rode it through a lot of mountain trails. All I knew when I bought it was it had RockShox and was in my price range.

I wish I could find a picture of it back then but I cannot. Here's a very similar bike I found, mine didn't have the bar ends:

Eventually the thin-walled RockShox cracked completely in two on the right-side fork. For a long time I kept riding it with a "splint", I put a few pieces of cut pipe around the broken shock and use hose clamps to keep it together. I had moved downtown Atlanta near my work and started using it to commute.

These days it looks different with a series of small changes I made to it over the years, will post a pic of that and some details later.

12   Tenpoundbass   2012 Apr 13, 4:44am  

I had a specialied hard rock back in the 90's it was decent bike.

13   Patrick   2012 Apr 13, 7:40am  

Anyone ride a fixed-gear bike, no shifting, no derailleur?

I've seen those around and they look like fun, but what happens when you have to go down a big hill? Seems like you'd slide because you couldn't pedal fast enough.

14   Vicente   2012 Apr 13, 9:30am  

It's called a "fixie".

Generally they have no freewheel. Your pedals are the rear brake. So you either keep your feet on the pedals and just keep up with rotation, or I suppose you could take your feet off. If you need to brake abruptly though you've got to get your feet on the pedals quick. One I was looking at today had a brake for the front wheel but you don't want to slam that on going fast or you'll end up going over the handlebars.

Some people around here like them as a utility bike. Simple & cheapish. Few parts to maintain really except keeping the chain tight.

You can have a fixie with a freewheel but then you need a rear brake mechanism.

15   Vicente   2012 Apr 13, 1:08pm  

OK early mod was 6-ish years ago simply taking off the splinted RockShox and replacing it with a standard fork ($20). These are not the original cantilever brakes either. A couple of years ago I took a bike-maintenance class and decided to put on Shimano V-brakes.

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16   Vicente   2012 Apr 13, 1:24pm  

Another later operation was tossing the standard short quill stem which looks like this:

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With a longer adjustable-angle quill stem to gain some handlebar height:

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17   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2012 Apr 13, 1:25pm  

Did you switch levers at the same time? V's go with mountain levers & cantilevers with road levers. These levers have a different amount of cable pull. The wrong levers will work, but not as well.

18   Vicente   2012 Apr 13, 1:34pm  

YesYNot says

Did you switch levers at the same time? V's go with mountain levers & cantilevers with road levers. These levers have a different amount of cable pull. The wrong levers will work, but not as well.

Ah yes I was getting to that.

I originally had grip-shifters like these:

Some people like them. I never really liked them but I tolerated them. When I started thinking about changes I wanted road-style Shimano with shifters & brake levers in a unified body. I like very much the Quickfire style thumb and finger paddles. The V-brake changeout came along with that.

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Oddly enough this is not the original handlebar either. I had replaced the straight bar with a raised bar 5-ish years ago. Later when I needed to pull the raised bar off this bike to put on new bike I couldn't find the original straight bar. So I stuck on the cheapest black one found in local shop. The grips are the cork grips off the newer Trek Atwood I had left over when I replaced it's factory grips.

There's a detail I probably won't bother with a photo of, about needing to put in a bracket to get new cable routing to work properly.

19   Vicente   2012 Apr 13, 1:45pm  

A few of the easy DIY upgrades.

C9 gel seat:

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Bontrager aluminium rear rack:

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Rear triangle kickstand & quick-mount for Chariot trailer:

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20   Vicente   2012 Apr 13, 1:49pm  

This is the improvement I'm most unreasonably proud of, the wheels I built. I took a wheel-building class after the bike maintenance class, and this was my project bike. The original single-walled rims were OK but cheap, so I tossed them and kept the hubs. I got some nice double-walled rims and spoked them to existing hubs, after repacking the bearings of course. Now it's a tank that I'm sure will outlast me.

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I have knobby mountain bike tires for it, but here it's wearing the big fat slick tires.

21   Vicente   2012 Apr 13, 1:55pm  

So contrast one of it's brothers in factory original:

With my mutant form which ended up being a city bike:

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The paint job is all banged up but I don't care. If it's a rack of bikes I'm fairly sure mine will be the last one stolen they'll just see "old beatup Frankenbike". No bike thief will recognize the good components.

It was the PROCESS of arriving at all these changes that made me think & informed me what I really needed in my bike.

Why is it not my daily driver after all this work, and is now my spare/guest bike?

Because at some point during the rebuild process a few years ago, the instructor convinced me the frame is a little small for me. I wasn't conscious of it until pointed out, I had coped and worked around it with adjustments. Like raising the seat to in order to get the right height from the pedals, made me feel the handlebars were a bit low so I put in the longer stem. After this I got the next frame size larger Trek Atwood and applied the lessons learned during the years of evolution in this bike to quickly modifying that new bike to my specs.

22   joshuatrio   2012 Apr 14, 2:26am  

Thanks for the pics - here's a few of my daily driver:

Electric tape for when I hook up the kids cart. When I started bike commuting, I couldn't believe the amount of abuse bikes actually took...

View over the handlebars to give you an idea of how narrow the tires are:

The kids cart - they love it.

I like how you've made your bike custom/practical/fit your needs over time, and have spent a lot of time making it comfortable for yourself. I do all the maintenance myself as well, but haven't taken a class yet. There are some pretty good tutorials on youtube that have been good to fix some of the basic problems. Wheel building/truing isn't something I've yet had to tackle.

23   Katy Perry   2012 Apr 15, 7:11am  

Nice post. Awesome bike setup.

Patrick, I don't ride one, but have asked enough folks about them. One thing about "Fixies" people don't always think of ( I didn't) is that you can resist backwards to control speed.

24   Patrick   2012 Apr 15, 7:32am  

So if you're going down a steep hill, you just pedal kind of slowly to reduce your speed?

I suppose that absolutely requires toeclips, because otherwise the pedal would just flip forward and hit you in the back of the ankle, right?

25   swebb   2012 Apr 15, 10:56am  


u switch levers at the same time? V's go with mountain levers & cantilevers with road levers. These levers have a different amount of cable pull. The wrong levers will work, but not as well.

Fixies are absolutely stupid hipster bikes that are way more show than go. It's plain stupid to have a bike with a fixed gear especially if you don't have a hand operated brake of some sort. The only legitimate use of a fixie that I have heard of is that it enforces smooth pedal motion, so it can help in training to improve your pedal stroke / cadence.

OK, so I guess the velodrome racing is a legitimate use, too.

Otherwise, they are just dumb "look at me" hipster toys as far as I can tell. Same thing with the super narrow handlebar...sure, a narrower bar helps in tight city traffic, getting on and off elevators / doorways, etc...but usually it's just a fashion statement. Damn stupid.

Scroll down a bit on this page:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/274916-Jackass-BFSSFG-poseur-tarck-bicyclist-of-the-day?p=9843520#post9843520

That's my old grumpy man post for the day.

26   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2012 Apr 15, 1:00pm  

Nice bikes guys.

I am too lazy to dig up pics, but have a mountain bike, three city bikes, road bike, kiddie cart converted for dogs, and tandem. Several of these have been significantly modified or were built up from the frame and parts. One of the city bikes is a cyclocross bike with a fixed gear on one side and freewheel on the other. It's had two brakes from the beginning. Nothing precludes using brakes on fixies. I've used it fixed gear on mountain road rides (Mt Baldy, CA & others) & easy off road trails with small roots and rocks and such. I've never ridden in traffic without brakes. It's hard to get used to riding fixed, because you forget a few times in the beginning. When the pedal keeps moving, it is shocking to get such a forceful reminder to pedal. Riding fixed can be fun though and is just another way to ride a bike. Of course the hipsters are a bit of a put-off, but they drink coffee too & I'm not about to give that up either.
People who ride brakeless in traffic typically know how to skid the rear wheel, which is not an effective brake, but trying to use back pressure is useless. I figure it's about as safe as riding a skateboard in traffic. To do a skid, you have to throw your weight forward and get the weight off the back wheel. Then, you can stop the wheel and start a skid. Once the wheel is stopped, you can let some more weight on it & stop faster.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/VGw5aYCQBYE

27   Vicente   2012 Apr 15, 2:10pm  

Is this a road bike or what? Frame says road bike, handlebars say mt bike. What size are those tires???

No funnin' please. I'm not a "real cyclist" because I don't use the clip-in pedals according to some.

Personally I've never seen the point in the "simplicity" of a fixie. I like at least *some* gearing. The lowest I could see going is one of those bikes with the gearing hidden inside the rear hub. I've seen 3-gear versions of that with the Brompton and that's as minimalist as I can imagine. At least then you'd have some choices for small hills and you wouldn't have all that derailleur stuff hanging on the side of the bike.

28   joshuatrio   2012 Apr 16, 1:04am  

Vicente says

Is this a road bike or what? Frame says road bike, handlebars say mt bike. What size are those tires???

It's pretty much a flat bar road bike.

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=52889&menuItemId=0

Tires are 700x32c. Little fatter than your standard roadbike, but definetely run smoother/quieter than my old knobby mountain bike tires.

Vicente says

No funnin' please. I'm not a "real cyclist" because I don't use the clip-in pedals according to some.

Same here. At least not yet anyways. Just watched a movie on biking the great divide (it's on netflix) - man, it looks awesome.

29   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2012 Apr 16, 5:30am  

I used to follow that race (great divide), but realized that I'd never have the time to finish it on a bike at my pace, so did it on a motorcycle. Lot's of fun, but a bicycle would have been ideal.

30   joshuatrio   2012 Apr 18, 1:09am  

YesYNot says

I used to follow that race (great divide), but realized that I'd never have the time to finish it on a bike at my pace, so did it on a motorcycle. Lot's of fun, but a bicycle would have been ideal.

Yeah, to actually "race" the great divide, you have to do at least 100 miles a day on rough terrain. It starts June of this year, so maybe I'll reconsider for next year. The other option is to enjoy the ride, and extend it 50+ days and visit all the landmarks/points of history on the way down.

Good news is, I bought my wife a bicycle a few weeks ago, and she's been riding all over town. She now actually prefers riding than driving - even when towing the kids. Hopefully, the only thing the car will be used for is distance commutes (for her), and days when time is tight.

31   HeadSet   2012 Apr 18, 5:42am  

Nice thread Vincente.

I have several bikes, I use this one for hauling, riding in the rain, or at night.

The bike frame is weatherproof, being chrome-plated with black paint on top. The brakes are sealed drums in the wheel hubs - no loss of braking because of a wet rim.

I like long crusies through my area's scenic coastal neighborhoods, country roads and quant towns. Thus the handlebar mounted Garmin 5in GPS and the MP3 player with speakers.

This bike is heavy but very stable. I ride sitting straight up with hands by my side, even when turning corners. I only need to touch the handlebars for tight turns. Very comfortable with the 40 PSI tires and the large seat.

32   HeadSet   2012 Apr 18, 6:09am  

For you "Trek" and "Specialized" weenies, here is a real bike:

It is a Cannondale Rize One Carbon, built in good ol' USA. Note the front wheel - no fork, but a strut like an airplane nose gear:

I did change out the seat from a wispy "Fis'iks" to something more comfortable, I also put on the GPS and Entertainment:

This bike is extremely light, rides smooth even over rough terrain, and is suprisingly quick for dual suspension trail bike. It has hydrolic brakes, tubeless tires, and extremely smooth shifting.

33   HeadSet   2012 Apr 18, 6:50am  

Vincente, Joshuatrio,

What is your aversion to fenders?

And Josh, does that chainguard work well enough so you can wear long pants without a band on the ankle?

34   Vicente   2012 Apr 18, 8:36am  

HeadSet says

What is your aversion to fenders?

Weight? Don't need it?

I mean really if it's raining buckets I'm probably not biking. Or if I must bike through the rain I'm wearing rain pants & jacket, and not that concerned about road spray.

My chainguard on the Atwood works fine, I never tie up right pants leg.

35   joshuatrio   2012 Apr 18, 8:54am  

HeadSet says

What is your aversion to fenders?

And Josh, does that chainguard work well enough so you can wear long pants without a band on the ankle?

Nice rides !!! Really like both of them.

Almost bought a Cannondale..... Test rode a few Cannondale Quicks a while back, but I didn't like the rider position. It was VERY upright/vertical - almost grandma style and the pedal crank arms felt really short - as in you couldn't really "put your body into it" - not sure if that made sense or not. Probably just the model though. My father in law has a few of their road bikes and they only weigh around 14-15 lbs. INSANE !

Don't have to worry about a chain guard. I ride to work in shorts/tennis shoes, shower at work, and change before the ride home : )

Fenders: while functional, they make any bike look old-man(ish). Plus, I like the big stripe that the rear rooster tail leaves. Makes me laugh in the rain. Basically, the rain doesn't bother me.

36   HeadSet   2012 Apr 18, 11:38pm  

joshuatrio says

Don't have to worry about a chain guard. I ride to work in shorts/tennis shoes, shower at work, and change before the ride home : )

Enviable, all cyclists would love that arrangement. I cannot commute like you, but I do keep an $84 Walmart Mongoose XR75 at work. I like to go fror a spin mid-day to clear the head.

Surprisingly,the Mongoose is not a bad bike - it has an aluminum frame, dual suspension, and Shimano 21 speed components. The worst part of buying from Walmart is the abysmal assembly work. If you do not mind reassebling and re-adjusting, not a bad way to get a cheap additional ride. I did of course, add a big seat, entertainment, and GPS.

Do you ride during the winter? I ride all year, even if I need gloves and a ski mask. I will even ride in snow, but not on ice. Fortunately here in coastal Virginia, snow/ice is maybe a 4 day per year event.

37   HeadSet   2012 Apr 19, 12:07am  

joshuatrio says

Fenders: while functional, they make any bike look old-man(ish).

How about white walls?

I cruise at 12-15 mph on that heavy black bike and even at that slow speed any spray grit from the front wheel that hits the legs stings then itches later - thus the fender. It was a challenge to get those fenders to fit, since I put 40 PSI tires on in place of the original 65 PSI tires.

How fast do you fellows cruise?

38   joshuatrio   2012 Apr 19, 2:14am  

HeadSet says

Do you ride during the winter? I ride all year, even if I need gloves and a ski mask. I will even ride in snow, but not on ice. Fortunately here in coastal Virginia, snow/ice is maybe a 4 day per year event.

I ride all year. But in Central CA it's pretty much 65 every day. Low 30's in the morning, and 60's by the afternoon. It can be a little bitter in the AM, but the ride home is usually very comfortable.

My clothing for the morning consists of padded shorts, tshirt, long sleeve tshirt, sweatshirt and thin beanie cap under the helmet - two pairs of gloves. The trip home is usually a tshirt and shorts.

HeadSet says

How about white walls?

Depends on the bike. I do like your black bike (Mongoose?) though. It's clean. Would definitely ride that.

HeadSet says

I put 40 PSI tires on in place of the original 65 PSI tires....

Seems low - mine are running 120-125 psi currently.

HeadSet says

How fast do you fellows cruise?

Not sure. Don't have a computer on this bike yet. However, from timing myself, with stop lights for 8.5 miles, I was at about 17mph. If there were no stop lights and stop signs, it would have been higher. On the average day, when I'm not in a rush, it's probably around 15mph. The thinner tires roll nicely.

On the old mountain bike, the average speed was around 10-12. But that thing was a tank.

39   joshuatrio   2012 Apr 19, 2:17am  

Headset, how often do you ride that nice mountain bike? Do you do a lot of trails?

40   Vicente   2012 Apr 19, 3:12am  

HeadSet says

How fast do you fellows cruise?

Not something I usually pay attention to, I don't think of myself as a fast biker. But since you asked, today I ran MotionX GPS on my phone on the commute to work.

Avg speed 12.1 mph
Max speed 21.7 mph

I'm curious what the weights are on y'alls bikes and if you think that's a big speed factor for you? Both of mine are heavy steel bikes been wondering if going lighter would help a lot or not.

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