1991 Promotional Booklet says Obama borm in Kenya
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marcus
2012 May 18, 4:20am
A simple error that no one noticed...
And your evidence that no one noticed it ? Your idea of evidence is probably the fact that they didn't spend the money to remake the brochure ? Maybe they should have taken out a full page ad in a major paper, correcting it. You know, just in case 18 years later he is running for president.
My guess is that no one "noticed" because it's correct. He was born in Kenya. Why would anyone CORRECT something that's already accurate?
Somebody won't believe Obama's birth certificate from Hawaii but would believe anything else! Bias?
Are you talking about Obama's birth certificate "pdf" file? Sheriff Arpaio's investigation concluded that the file is a forgery.
A simple error that no one noticed...
And your evidence that no one noticed it ? Your idea of evidence is probably the fact that they didn't spend the money to remake the brochure ? Maybe they should have taken out a full page ad in a major paper, correcting it. You know, just in case 18 years later he is running for president.
The same biography information was posted on his publisher's web site - there are historical snapshots of that web page. It was changed in 2007 after Obama announced running for US President.
Obama's own publisher had the same information printed in the booklet and posted on the web. Spin that, Obot!
What needs to be spun? It was an error. Oh my, imagine that. Someone made a mistake. I can't believe it. So I won't because that wouldn't mesh with my already formulated prejudices.
Obot, there was no mistake. Birthplace information came from Obama. Another author represented by the same agent described the process. Authors wrote their own biographies and submitted them to the agent.
I have no problems at all bigsby, but you still like to insult me.
It's a liberal thing. A guy disagrees and you freak out and start hurling insults.
There surely exist a lot of problems in California that I would blame on others, absolutely.
Obama is one of America's problems because he is such an idealogue that he ignored the problems and thought windmills and solyndra would employ millions of people.
Like many dilettante pseudo-intellectuals, Obama has no actual learning or skills or work experience in the real world, so he has no frame of reference. He is truly clueless and needs advisers to tell him what is reality because he really doesn't know.
Guys who have operated in the real world have also a "bullshit detector" that becomes more sensitive with age. We have heard it and seen it.
The significance of the bio is not whether Obama was born in kenya, it is that Obama's entire life is a fiction, a media and Obama invention.
No one really knows anything about him beyond the facts he mentions on his books, i.e. pothead, last two years of high school were a blur from coke and pot use, didn't know his father, started to dislike whites, felt bad from his racial identity confusion, etc.
If Obama were seeking a job someone would refuse to hire him simply based on the inconsistencies of his birth and would say "We don't know, we can't figure you out, have a nice day."
Obama couldn't get a job in the FBI or CIA today for example for his past associations with known assholes.
Whatever country you live in bigsby, take him and have a good time with him over there. We don't need losers here.
I have another list that would maybe also define you but I won't do that anymore you'd become too upset. We don't want to upset our foreign friends here.
nosf41 has a good point.
On a couple of occasions in my work the proposal had bios in it. A person asked me a bunch of stuff and the information I provided was what they derived my bio from. It is not the other way around, that's just absurd. They didn't write my bio and then show it to me "Is this correct Mr. Clambo?"
So evidently Obama : 1. lied that he was born in Kenya 2. was born in Kenya.
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 12:33pm
I have no problems at all bigsby, but you still like to insult me.
It's a liberal thing. A guy disagrees and you freak out and start hurling insults.
There surely exist a lot of problems in California that I would blame on others, absolutely.
Oh, I see, so you can give but you can't take. I didn't freak out. Your posts were littered with insults and complete fabrications, and yet, when I respond, I'm the one in the wrong. Go back and read your posts and think about what you're saying. Self-awareness is obviously not your strong point.
And you're calling Obama clueless with no learning? Honestly, you aren't worth the effort. Just too funny for words.
There are no inconsistencies in his background and he clearly lives in the real world, or do you think he exists in some sort of parallel universe? What makes your experience more 'real' than his? What makes his background a 'fabrication?' You just don't like him because you are a right-winger with clear racist tendencies. You want to believe what you want about him irrespective of the facts involved. His background is a fabrication to you because that is what you want to believe. It doesn't matter that that is complete bullshit, it fulfills the requirements you are looking for. It doesn't matter what his real life experience is because whatever it is, its not 'real' to you. Everything you say is just twisted nonsense. He's black and isn't a raving right-winger. Get over it.
And shall I post your list now? Probably not because hey, that would be insulting, wouldn't it?
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 1:00pm
What don't you understand about the process of becoming the President of the USA? Clearly his background isn't checked. No sir, no vetting goes on whatsoever. He doesn't come under incredible scrutiny prior to election. No sir, nothing. There are no powerful forces in the US who would love to stop a black 'liberal' coming to power. No sir, none whatsoever. You and your like grasp at anything that comes up no matter how tenuous it is.
Vicente
2012 May 18, 4:37pm
Well I think we can put this nonsense to bed, per this article:
Per the editor of that text Miriam Goderich:
"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 5:47pm
Well I think we can put this nonsense to bed, per this article:
Per the editor of that text Miriam Goderich:
"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
“Eagles are dandified vultures†- Teddy Roosevelt
It doesn't make any difference. She was clearly paid off/is an Obama sympathizer/is being blackmailed/blah-de-blah-de-blah.
Bixby, you did it again. You say I have racist tendencies, I'm a right-winger. Where did I say anything racist? Michelle IS ugly, that's not racist to say. Roslynn Carter was pretty hot, that's not supremast either.
I had a black girlfriend in college (well, college girlfriends are fleeting aren't they?) I had black friends in college and lived with a black house mate on two different occasions here. But, I can of course still be a racist and cohabitate and date them so why mention those facts?
The point is not that Obama is a Mulatto, that's not what makes him an asshole. Don't you read what I posted about him?
I would much prefer he be an American raised in the USA, not Indonesia to a muslim father with a nut as a mother. This has warped his mind forever.
I don't believe that the point of the publicist blurb is where Obama was from. The point is that Obama and his supporters have created a fake persona for the purpose of making him more popular.
His fucked up childhood and family and background are not the point in my opinion, his lack of brains and competence is.
I previously listed his other mistakes and nonsense so just scroll up to see.
Why would the media make him black when he is clearly 1/2 white and so a mulatto?
Why would the media attribute academic credentials to him "college professor" when he actually was a part time lecturer? Shit, I have done that myself on a few occasions for a UCSC class, does that make me a fucking professor too?
Why would simply appointing him President of Law Review based on his skin tone be unmentioned, so that he can appear to be the most academically astute student in his class?
Why would it not be mentioned in the media how Obama was a coke and pothead in highschool such he lived the last two years "in a fog" according to his autobiography?
Like Obama on his merits, his lefty liberal politics and race and class warfare appeal to you.
It's all crazy for you to even comment on, you can't fucking vote who gives a shit what you foreigners think anyway?
Well I think we can put this nonsense to bed, per this article:
Per the editor of that text Miriam Goderich:
"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
“Eagles are dandified vultures†- Teddy Roosevelt
Don't be stupid. Agency did not invent Obama's biography - he, an unknown aspiring author, submitted it himself.
How could she have known about Obama's birthplace or who his parents were? This information was not in public domain.
His agency continued posting "born in Kenya" claim on their web page until 2007. For sixteen years nobody noticed it was an error. Yeah right.
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 6:45pm
Honestly Clambo, do you actually read the shite you post? Pretty much nothing you post has any factual basis. All the nonsense you post about Obama smacks of racism pure and simple. You can bleat on about that not being the case all you like but it jumps off the page. And please give the 'Obama's lack of brains' (amongst all your other drivel) comments a rest. It's just ridiculous.
And as for his supposed 'lefty liberal politics, race and class warfare,' all you have to do is look at the policies that have been introduced during his first term in office and the way his administration has acted to see that for the obvious lie it is.
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 6:47pm
Don't be stupid. Agency did not invent Obama's biography - he, an unknown aspiring author, submitted it himself.
How could she have known about Obama's birthplace or who his parents were? This information was not in public domain.
His agency continued posting "born in Kenya" claim on their web page until 2007. For sixteen years nobody noticed it was an error. Yeah right.
There you go. Surprise, surprise. So I take it you know more about what happened than the person who actually wrote it. Go figure.
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 6:48pm
It's all crazy for you to even comment on, you can't fucking vote who gives a shit what you foreigners think anyway?
You, apparently. And why, exactly, is it crazy for me to comment on politics in the US? I take it then that we won't be hearing any nonsense coming out of your mouth to do with the rest of the world. Good news.
Don't be stupid. Agency did not invent Obama's biography - he, an unknown aspiring author, submitted it himself.
How could she have known about Obama's birthplace or who his parents were? This information was not in public domain.
His agency continued posting "born in Kenya" claim on their web page until 2007. For sixteen years nobody noticed it was an error. Yeah right.
There you go. Surprise, surprise. So I take it you know more about what happened than the person who actually wrote it. Go figure.
Obot, she had no way of knowing his biographical information in 1991. Another author from the same agency who dealt with this lady confirmed that agency had policy that authors wrote their biographies.
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 6:57pm
Obot, she had no way of knowing his biographical information in 1991. Another author from the same agency who dealt with this lady confirmed that agency had policy that authors wrote their biographies.
So again, you are saying that the woman who wrote it doesn't know what she's talking about. I see. You seem to be very knowledgeable about the situation. Even more knowledgeable than the writer herself. Remarkable.
Obot, she had no way of knowing his biographical information in 1991. Another author from the same agency who dealt with this lady confirmed that agency had policy that authors wrote their biographies.
So again, you are saying that the woman who wrote it doesn't know what she's talking about. I see. You seem to be very knowledgeable about the situation. Even more knowledgeable than the writer herself. Remarkable.
It is very obvious that she is lying now, trying to cover for Obama. Let me illustrate something for you. A literary agent receives requests from aspiring authors who are trying to sell their book ideas. Which process makes sense:
1. Agent asks an unknown author to submit his own biography.
2. Agent writes the biography even though agent knows nothing about author's background.
Are you stupid, naive or simply a partisan covering for Obama?
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 9:31pm
Bigsby getting pummeled so he pulls the race card!
His posts are littered with racist, homophobic and xenophobic remarks. If commenting on that is considered playing the race card, then so be it. And as for being pummeled in the 'discussion,' well paint me shocked that you agree with Clambo's views. Utterly stunning. Neither of you seem to enjoy the use of facts in your arguments, so really, I'm not sure what you actually consider winning to mean. Presumably, the one capable of bullshitting the most whilst keeping a straight face.
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 9:37pm
Then if you want anything you scream racism. You people don't believe in merit or achievement. You don't believe in this country. Leeches on a host.
It's not my country. As for not believing in merit or achievement, I'd say that is your area of expertise because you are only interested in the achievements of people who are like-minded. You are utterly incapable of acknowledging the positive things others do if their world outlook doesn't mesh with your own.
I don't have a foot in either the Democrat or Republican camps. As far as I can tell, there's not a great deal of difference between either of them when it comes to what they actually end up doing when in power. It just seems that you blow-hards can't see or accept that. You have to create your straw men to make yourselves feel better about your condition. It isn't just people like you who make your country the most influential and powerful in the world. It's everyone, of all shapes and sizes, racial backgrounds, religious beliefs (or lack thereof), political views.... Everyone who makes an effort by building up rather than knocking down. You, though, seem only interested in knocking down so what exactly is your contribution to your very fine country?
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 9:44pm
It is very obvious that she is lying now, trying to cover for Obama. Let me illustrate something for you. A literary agent receives requests from aspiring authors who are trying to sell their book ideas. Which process makes sense:
1. Agent asks an unknown author to submit his own biography.
2. Agent writes the biography even though agent knows nothing about author's background.Are you stupid, naive or simply a partisan covering for Obama?
Oh, good grief. You just can't accept it, can you? Why is it so important to you? She said she made a mistake. Why is that so difficult to accept? Let me tell you why, because you want to believe he was born in Kenya no matter what the facts are. I couldn't care less where he was born. I'm not an American. I didn't vote for him, but I can look from the outside and be utterly stunned by the sort of bullshit that people come up with just to perpetuate their conspiracy theories.
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 10:18pm
Not a birther.
Just know when someone is lying and using liberal orthodoxy to play the game gain without merit.
If you aren't a birther, then how can you say he's lying about it?
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 10:37pm
The "mistake" was intentional hoping to add to his cache with Lefties like you who love the "I was born from humble beginnings and used my race
to move up in the world."Get it. It is a lie.
What? I mean seriously, WTF are you saying? That an editor made a deliberate mistake back in 1991 about somebody virtually nobody knew about so that it could 'add to his cache with lefties?' Have you got a screw loose?
Bigsby
2012 May 18, 10:52pm
An "EDITOR" you moron. Editors don't make those kind of mistakes. The damn bio is a one-pager.
It is a lie. A purposeful one.
What does his anonymity back in '91 have to do with it.
Because nobody knows him therefore this is not a deliberate lie. What kind of thinking is that?
You must be on a wind up. That or you are deranged.
Dan8267
2012 May 19, 1:14am
There is no reasoning with idiots like Cloud. It's pointless to try. Here's a clip of three hikers trying to reason with him.
marcus
2012 May 19, 5:04am
IT seems remotely possibly to me that it was a lie, from OBama, that is about being born in Kenya. Unlikely, but possible.
Not cool if he did, but if he did, I would bet there was some practical reason for it (not some perceived cache). It could be something like at the time he wanted to pursue having a dual citizenship, because of family over there, and maybe hopes of a career in international relations with Africa. Obviously at the time he had no idea what course his career would take, but he was very ambitious.
I'm not defending or condoning, I'm just speculating that in the fairly small chance that it was in fact a lie, the rationale would be something like this.
I would think that republicans would sort of respect that, since by nature they tend to be much looser with the honesty (especially with themselves) than those who are only slightly right of center (the so called "liberals").
CBOEtrader
2012 May 19, 5:53am
This is the only rational comment in this thread so far. My best guess is that Obama has groomed his story again and again for his best interests-- which is what every public figure does, and really most people (see the current yahoo CEO scandal).
I don't understand why this is news though-- it's standard practice.
IT seems remotely possibly to me that it was a lie, from OBama, that is about being born in Kenya. Unlikely, but possible.
Not cool if he did, but if he did, I would bet there was some practical reason for it (not some perceived cache). It could be something like at the time he wanted to pursue having a dual citizenship, because of family over there, and maybe hopes of a career in international relations with Africa. Obviously at the time he had no idea what course his career would take, but he was very ambitious.
I'm not defending or condoning, I'm just speculating that in the fairly small chance that it was in fact a lie, the rationale would be something like this.
I would think that republicans would sort of respect that, since by nature they tend to be much looser with the honesty (especially with themselves) than those who are only slightly right of center (the so called "liberals").
Bigsby
2012 May 19, 11:55am
Bigsby, nice come back. Try again.
I don't need to try again. The proof is in your posts.
As it seems you're not on a wind up, ...
Oh, good grief. You just can't accept it, can you? Why is it so important to you? She said she made a mistake. Why is that so difficult to accept? Let me tell you why, because you want to believe he was born in Kenya no matter what the facts are. I couldn't care less where he was born. I'm not an American. I didn't vote for him, but I can look from the outside and be utterly stunned by the sort of bullshit that people come up with just to perpetuate their conspiracy theories
You have not explained the logic behind the claim that a literary agent wrote a biography of an unknown aspiring author. She had no information about Obama's past - how could she be the one to make a "mistake" and mention Kenya as Obama's birthplace? The story is an obvious cover up for Obama.
You are the one who spreads BS claims.
If you pitched an idea for a book to an agent and she agreed to represent you - who would be writing your biography: you or your agent?
IT seems remotely possibly to me that it was a lie, from OBama, that is about being born in Kenya. Unlikely, but possible.
Not cool if he did, but if he did, I would bet there was some practical reason for it (not some perceived cache). It could be something like at the time he wanted to pursue having a dual citizenship, because of family over there, and maybe hopes of a career in international relations with Africa. Obviously at the time he had no idea what course his career would take, but he was very ambitious.
I'm not defending or condoning, I'm just speculating that in the fairly small chance that it was in fact a lie, the rationale would be something like this.
I would think that republicans would sort of respect that, since by nature they tend to be much looser with the honesty (especially with themselves) than those who are only slightly right of center (the so called "liberals").
Let me guess - you are still against the idea that it is necessary to actually check and verify his background information using original documentation on file with various US government agencies:
1. Original birth certificate (the "written down" thing mentioned by gov. Abercrombie).
2. Passport information (including complete history of his mother's passports).
3. Selective Service registration card.
Bigsby
2012 May 19, 12:53pm
You have not explained the logic behind the claim that a literary agent wrote a biography of an unknown aspiring author. She had no information about Obama's past - how could she be the one to make a "mistake" and mention Kenya as Obama's birthplace? The story is an obvious cover up for Obama.
You are the one who spreads BS claims.
I'm not spreading bullshit claims. I am repeating what the woman who actually wrote it said. It's you who is making claims contrary to that, something for which you have zero proof and which directly contradicts the person involved, so exactly which one of us is bullshitting?
I'm not spreading bullshit claims. I am repeating what the woman who actually wrote it said. It's you who is making claims contrary to that, something for which you have zero proof and which directly contradicts the person involved, so exactly which one of us is bullshitting?
If you pitched an idea for a book to an agent and she agreed to represent you - who would be writing your biography: you or your agent?
Media bullshit mixed with the koolaid for liberal lefty consumption.
1. Obama is black. Y/N? No, he's a mulatto, 1/2 white raised by whites.
2. Warren is a Cherokee. Y/N? No, she has NO proof of any native American blood.
3. Al Gore is a scientist. Y/N? No, Al Gore earned a D in the only science class he ever took. The guy who taught it recently said he doesn't believe in global warming, although he was the one who came up with that theory.
4. CO2 is a pollutant.Y/N? No, CO2 is a necessary plant nutrient in very low conc. in the atmosphere.
There are reasons that some people doubt the Obama story, the reason is the story is a media concoction.
I may be alone, I believe he cannot have faked this document for birth in Hawaii, and I don't believe it is fake. It's also not the original birth certificate.
However, what I actually know about his life is he is a mixed up person.
The more you know about him the worse he gets, and the more bullshit you have to believe to not be concerned.
"Bill Ayers is a guy in the neighborhood." Not really accurate.
"I never heard Rev.Wright give sermons like that." Not in 25 years.
I got some people at a party in CT pissed off when in their liberal midst I said when I interviewed guys for a job, I never picked the candidate with zero experience. Obama had zero executive experience before his election.
I also know that Obama pulled some dirty tricks in Chicago to keep his opponents off the ballots, etc. so I think he's just a political hack.
Don't even mention his thunderthighed witch of a wife using the taxpayers money to take vacations in Spain and all over the place without her poor husband even present. They are enjoying the billionaire lifestyle that they decry, yet they earned none of it from hard work or brains.
bigsby is pathetically bleating that if you don't like the mulatto-in-chief you are a racist or worse.
Actually, I have the right to be a racist here. I can say racist things, I can write them, and I can believe them.
I can't however BE racist in the area of rental, selling something, or hiring.
Foreigners are sometimes hilarious. The three countries I have lived varied, four if you count a couple months in Japan. The other countries were FAR more racist than the USA, and also more class stratified.
Bigsby
2012 May 19, 6:24pm
If you pitched an idea for a book to an agent and she agreed to represent you - who would be writing your biography: you or your agent?
Good grief. It's highly likely she had many dealings with him before writing that short bio. She says she was the one who made the mistake, but of course, you know better.
Bigsby
2012 May 19, 6:31pm
bigsby is pathetically bleating that if you don't like the mulatto-in-chief you are a racist or worse.
Actually, I have the right to be a racist here. I can say racist things, I can write them, and I can believe them.
Oh, right, so I'm supposedly pathetically bleating about you lying and concocting nonsense. I get attacked for 'playing the race card,' but here you are basically admitting you're a racist, a fact that is clearly affecting any rational judgement on your part. I neither like nor dislike Obama. He's a politician. Some of his views I support, some I don't, but what I don't appreciate is idiots like you making up utter bullshit about somebody you seemingly hate ostensibly because of their color.
And so what if other countries are more racist than the US. What has that got to do with anything? It doesn't excuse your views, does it?
Bigsby
2012 May 19, 6:40pm
Don't even mention his thunderthighed witch of a wife using the taxpayers money to take vacations in Spain and all over the place without her poor husband even present. They are enjoying the billionaire lifestyle that they decry, yet they earned none of it from hard work or brains.
You seem to have a thing for his wife. And you, you of all people, are criticizing them about their intelligence. You couldn't make this shit up.
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Big - Clambo is simply pointing to the hypocrisy of the left. At least the right makes no bones about enjoying their success.
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