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Internet Trolls


               
2012 May 30, 8:00am   5,458 views  22 comments

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1   Patrick   @   2012 May 30, 8:44am  

Just sort by disliked comments to find the trolls on Patrick.net:

http://patrick.net/users.php?ob=dislikes&d=desc

2   Vicente   @   2012 May 30, 8:54am  

I'm offended I am so far down the list. Have to try harder.

3   CL   @   2012 May 30, 8:55am  

(I was thinking about you when I read this, actually. Sounds like fodder for a guy doing what you do)

Do you think that dislikes reflect troll-levels? Or just level of dislike? :)

4   bob2356   @   2012 May 30, 9:09am  

Vicente says

I'm offended I am so far down the list. Have to try harder.

“Eagles are dandified vultures” - Teddy Roosevelt

Christ I'm way below you. I'm really a slacker.

5   Patrick   @   2012 May 30, 9:11am  

I think a better measure is the ratio of comment dislikes to comment likes.

Call it "trollishness".

Heck, let me see if I can put in a trollishness column.

Maybe users with trollishness > 3 should have their icon changed to a troll, and people should be allowed to blanket-ignore all trolls?

6   CL   @   2012 May 30, 9:14am  

Interesting idea! I suspect that many people might choose "dislike" when they dislike the message, but not the messenger. Or if they just strongly disagree with the content therein.

The troll moniker might distinguish them from each other?

7   Patrick   @   2012 May 30, 9:17am  

OK, there is now a "Trollishness" column, which is simply dislikes divided by likes:

http://patrick.net/users.php?ob=dislikes&d=desc

You can't sort by that yet, but it's still informative.

8   Dan8267   @   2012 May 30, 11:17am  


OK, there is now a "Trollishness" column, which is simply dislikes divided by likes

I like how Cloud has a trollish rating of 10 and just about everyone else is below 1.0.

Of course, if you talk about any hot issue, you're going to have a non-zero rating.

9   CL   @   2012 May 30, 12:27pm  

Good points, John. However I'd say a troll is most certainly a noun. Obviously, we have trolls in mythology, but in the Internet sense we can still make troll a noun, since evolving language has made it so!

I mean, text is a noun and a verb now, right?

10   leo707   @   2012 May 31, 2:51am  


I think a better measure is the ratio of comment dislikes to comment likes.

Call it "trollishness".

Heck, let me see if I can put in a trollishness column.

Interesting, I like it.

What do you think about adding number of ignores to the troll formula?


Maybe users with trollishness > 3 should have their icon changed to a troll, and people should be allowed to blanket-ignore all trolls?

Hmmm... this could be interesting.

11   Patrick   @   2012 May 31, 2:57am  

leoj707 says

What do you think about adding number of ignores to the troll formula?

That makes sense, because it's stronger and rarer than mere "dislikes". And it has the advantage that it's hard to game, because you can just ignore someone once. OTOH, you can dislike hundreds of comments.

Should I put in some limit on the times or rate at which one person can dislike comments from another? I can imagine a bitter troll disliking a hundred comments by someone else, one after another without reading them, just out of spite.

12   leo707   @   2012 May 31, 3:44am  


Should I put in some limit on the times or rate at which one person can dislike comments from another? I can imagine a bitter troll disliking a hundred comments by someone else, one after another without reading them, just out of spite.

Yep, that could totally happen.

Don't Redit and Craigslist limit the number of times someone can up/down a post?

13   Tenpoundbass   @   2012 May 31, 3:58am  

One of these days you guys wont have me to kick around any more.
You'll have to get your reality dose from Cloud.

14   leo707   @   2012 May 31, 4:00am  

CaptainShuddup says

One of these days you guys wont have me to kick around any more.

You'll have to get your reality dose from Cloud.

*Yawn*

15   Tenpoundbass   @   2012 May 31, 4:59am  

You folks are like the Libs here at work. They can stand around kvetching out loud so everyone in an earshot can hear, about how bad the economy is, and how it's the republican's fault, and how bad Romney is. But as soon as someone says anything pro conservative to counter their claims, they invoke rule number in the company policy handbook they wrote in them selves. "No talking about politics" which in reality translates to "Don't counter argue Left talking points"

16   leo707   @   2012 May 31, 5:06am  

CaptainShuddup says

But as soon as someone says anything pro conservative to counter their claims,

And do you interject your opinion with the same savoir faire that you do on internet forums?

17   bob2356   @   2012 May 31, 5:28am  

CaptainShuddup says

One of these days you guys wont have me to kick around any more.

You'll have to get your reality dose from Cloud.

after dinner I'll faint.

18   Tenpoundbass   @   2012 May 31, 6:39am  

leoj707 says

And do you interject your opinion with the same suave faire that you do on internet forums?

These amateurs apologize by time I'm done with them.
I'm not only a member, I'm the president of the Curmudgeon club.

19   Bigsby   @   2012 May 31, 11:54am  

Shutdown The Liars says

Isn't it ironic that those belaboring the most about "trolls" are those very lying bastards who flood this site with housing misrepresentations and lies.

A liar is a liar and will be exposed as a liar. Take note.

Says the person who changes his name more times than his underwear.

20   Bigsby   @   2012 May 31, 12:33pm  

Yes, I call you a troll. I wonder why that is.

And all of this trollishness rating is ridiculous. You get in an argument with someone and they start pressing dislike for every post you make irrespective of the points you raise. Does that mean you are a troll or that you have just rattled somebody's cage?

I don't count Cloud as a troll, for example, because at least he is trying to make his point. He may well be pressing the dislike button for my posts, but I presume he's doing that because he doesn't like what I'm saying rather than thinking of me as a troll. You though are a troll. You change your name almost daily. You post the same things over and over again pretty much verbatim. You don't engage in discussion. You invariably just reflect people's responses back at them in your childish way etc. etc.

It's obvious who is trolling on here and it's equally obvious that some hackneyed system for evaluating that isn't necessary.

21   Bigsby   @   2012 May 31, 10:07pm  

Shutdown The Liars says

Bigsby says

t's obvious who is trolling on here

No question. And it is you. The most egregious trollers are LIARS. And you lie here in nearly every post.

Ho, ho, ho. You're a persistent little so-and-so. I'll give you that.

And 23 ignores, whatever your name is today. Am I the only person left on this forum who actually sees your posts?

22   freak80   @   2012 Jun 1, 3:15am  

Bigsby says

Am I the only person left on this forum who actually sees your posts?

Probably.

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