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Obama is not the most radical, leftist president ever


               
2012 Jun 5, 3:11pm   59,607 views  94 comments

by Dan8267   follow (4)  

Start video at 1:55 for relevant part, or just laugh during the beginning of the video. The 5 minute mark is where the really important stuff starts.

http://www.G2ih_qnzYS8


Notice that Reagan and Bush 2 are the biggest spenders. Yeah, small government my ass.

#politics

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1   Dan8267   @   2012 Jun 5, 3:12pm  

And you know what, this explains why conservative hate Bill Maher. He points out their hypocrisies so well.

2   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   @   2012 Jun 5, 11:22pm  

I love the chart, but it probably characterizes tax cuts as spending. At the very least, they should be honest about that.

3   rooemoore   @   2012 Jun 6, 12:09am  

Cloud says

Bill Mahr, you mean the guy who get to call women c*nts ?

Why? Because he gave Obama a million bucks?

You mean Bill Mahr, the guy that gets to call woman tw*ts? Because he is own your team? That guy? Where were you Lefties then? I didn't see any liberals demanding he get off tv. Or demands Obama return the money.

Hypocrites. Of course Dan admires a guy like that because he has stated on Patrick that all Catholic woman are sluts. Makes sense.

Instead of attacking the messenger, why not address the message? You can't, so you rant about Bill Maher. "He's sooo mean!"

4   rooemoore   @   2012 Jun 6, 1:22am  

Cloud says

hypocrites

What have I said that justifies you calling me a hyprocrite? Nothing -- you don't have a response to the topic discussed here. You're a child.

5   Dan8267   @   2012 Jun 6, 9:15am  

YesYNot says

I love the chart, but it probably characterizes tax cuts as spending. At the very least, they should be honest about that.

I don't know about that. I would think that tax cuts would be included in a chart about deficit running, but not spending as this one is. But I can't verify either way.

6   Dan8267   @   2012 Jun 6, 9:24am  

rooemoore says
Cloud says

You mean Bill Mahr, the guy that gets to call woman tw*ts? Because he is own your team? That guy? Where were you Lefties then? I didn't see any liberals demanding he get off tv. Or demands Obama return the money.

Hypocrites. Of course Dan admires a guy like that because he has stated on Patrick that all Catholic woman are sluts. Makes sense.

Instead of attacking the messenger, why not address the message? You can't, so you rant about Bill Maher. "He's sooo mean!"

Ah, that's why I have Cloud on ignore. He's such a disingenuous ass. Yeah, I like Bill Maher because he thinks all women are cunts just like I think all Catholic women are sluts. What bullshit.

Bill Maher made a joke once and to claim that he's a misogynist because of that is complete bullshit, just like it's bullshit to have a fake outrage boner over one joke I told in passing several months ago. Oh, and both jokes were funny, so fuck off Cloud.

Still, all this anal leakage that comes from Cloud when people quote him compels me to point out to indisputable facts.

1. Women like Bill Maher. Half his audience are women and they cheer him all the time.

2. Bill Maher used the word cunt in a joke, but he doesn't support forcing women to have a probe shoved up their cunts literally like Republican scumbags like Cloud do.

Republicans supported by assholes like Cloud have passed laws requiring a non-medical procedure involving forcing a wand literally inside a women's vagina before she can get an abortion. It has no medical purpose and is being forced on women solely to shame them and humiliate them to the point where they won't get an abortion.

Now that's fucking misogynistic.

And that's why people like Cloud keep accusing their opponents of being woman haters, because they need to distract people from the real woman haters who are raging the real war on women.

7   Dan8267   @   2012 Jun 6, 10:13am  

Ok, I did some research and got official figures of federal spending from http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/hist.pdf

Then I put together a spreadsheet based on the data there that shows the increase in spending by each administration using the same years as the graph from Bill Maher.

Hey Patrick, is there a way to upload files other than images? If so, I'd gladly include the Excel spreadsheet so everyone can verify it.

Below are the results. They are essentially the same as Maher's graph although his data shows slightly higher spending increases for all presidents. Perhaps his data is including spending that the White House archives ignore. But the bottom line is that Bill Maher is once again correct, and his detractors are wrong.

So, can I get an apology from those who accused Maher of spewing misinformation? The data has been confirmed.

8   Dan8267   @   2012 Jun 6, 10:16am  

Notice from the chart above that every Republican increased spending more than any Democrat. Thus proving the statement that Republicans, not Democrats, are the big spenders.

And no, my data does not count tax decreases as spending. Read the PDF yourself.

And this data comes directly from the White House's website.

9   Dan8267   @   2012 Jun 6, 10:19am  

You know WTF else? If you take into account inflation, about 3.5%, every Democrat has actually decreased spending whereas every Republican has increased spending, and usually by quite a lot.

And yes, the figures are in nominal dollars.

So we have to completely end the bullshit myth that Democrats are tax and spend, when it's really the Republicans that spend irresponsibly. Fuck, that means that the Democrats really are the party of fiscal responsibility and spending cuts. Think about it.

10   Dan8267   @   2012 Jun 6, 10:30am  

More chart porn from my spreadsheet...

Oh, and the values are in millions of dollars.

11   Dan8267   @   2012 Jun 6, 10:33am  

Ruki says

The truth:

Based on the data I got from the White House archives, your chart is complete bullshit. I can't find anyway to reconcile it with the real figures even taking liberal -- no pun intended -- interpretations of the data.

Where did you get that chart from anyway?

12   Dan8267   @   2012 Jun 6, 2:00pm  

Ruki says

I did. You on the other hand, have done nothing but dish out BS to support him, as I ripped to shreds above.

What color is the sky in your world?

You haven't made a single coherent argument that the data used on Maher's graph or mine is false. The PDF file is from the White House archives and contains data going back to George Washington. It's obviously put together by a historian, not by Obama or one of his people.

You really need to stop smoking the wacky tabacky and get a grip on reality. I have absolutely no pro-Obama agenda as anyone, even an moron, could tell from all my anti-Obama posts.

But facts are facts, and I did the research to determine if your allegations were credible or not. It turns out that your allegations had no merit whatsoever. Be a real man and admit your mistake, and all of us will respect you far more than if you double down on stupidity.

I could find other sources with the federal spending data, but it is clear that you won't accept any facts that don't support your distorted view of reality. And quite frankly, I cannot respect that. You are right now proving that Bill Maher is right when he says conservatives live in a bubble and nothing gets through it..

http://www.wEElA5b4AkM

13   Patrick   @   2012 Jun 6, 2:15pm  

Dan8267 says

Hey Patrick, is there a way to upload files other than images? If so, I'd gladly include the Excel spreadsheet so everyone can verify it.

Oops, almost didn't see this. Please use @Patrick in a comment if you want me to get an email of it.

But no, there is not way to upload files other than images yet.

How about using Google docs for sharing spreadsheets?

14   Dan8267   @   2012 Jun 6, 2:28pm  


Oops, almost didn't see this. Please use @Patrick in a comment if you want me to get an email of it.

Yeah, I forgot that was the new technique.


How about using Google docs for sharing spreadsheets?

Sure, I'll try that.

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