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You guys are in trouble this November


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2012 Jun 29, 12:39am   23,915 views  65 comments

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My Coworker at my new job has been holding down the Patnet Liberal cause here at work. We eat lunch together and debate opposite sides of the political spectrum.
This morning he told me, he's voting Republican ticket across the board.

While some Liberals in Washington are welcomed just to keep the republicans honest, a full Democrat Washington is down right dangerous. He says.

Now yesterday he was accusing me of being a sour grape Republican that didn't like the ruling. So what changed with him?

He actually read what his liabilities in Obamacare will actually be.
He's just been taking Nancy's word for it, that just because the Libs drafted the damn thing then it must be good. Now that he's read it, he realizes his lifestyle as he known it up until now is over. He can't afford to be the person he's always been. He's 62 and there's no end in sight or cap on how much he'll have to pay. Even retirees are required to pay most of their pension to the premiums.

Most will just forgo insurance and not be insured at all and just be taxed.

I was blown away to have this conversation with him after all of our debates we've had in the last three months. Another coworker thought it was a huge win, because he's been paying $1400 a month for his coverage anyway. He's upset that his neighbor who has two Mercedes doesn't have any insurance at all, and goes to the emergency room. So he's keen to stick it to his neighbor, until we explained how this bill sticks it to him as well.

What happens when you are working making let's say 100K a year, and have been paying $1400 a month. Then about mid year you get laid off, then what?

You can't go get it for free, you've already made 50K for the year, sure you've been living hand to mouth with your other bills and obligations, but you've already made 50K. It's not like you'll qualify for free health care now. You'll still be expected to pay premiums that are more than what you get from unemployment which in a month only pays maximum two biweekly payments of $575.
Or of course he could just drop the insurance and pay the TAX at the end of the year.

#politics

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59   ArtimusMaxtor   2012 Jul 1, 12:27am  

Is that the "due date" lol. I used to look to these "milestones" like November the Super Bowl and the 4th of July. Until I realized my own life sucked. It was then I decided to invest in my own life instead of investing in some other life. Its good for whoever the fuck wins I guess lol. Its not going to do me much good. Gratitude is not food but a bowl of shit in my opinion.

60   rootvg   2012 Jul 1, 2:44am  

bdrasin says

zzyzzx says

robertoaribas says

you mean like ALL OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRIES, that cover more of their population, and charge less for health care?

That's your problem right there. Always comparing the US to a bunch of other countries with even higher unemployment rates and worse economies. We should be comparing ourselves against places with really low unemployment when looking for ways to make improvements.

If the homeowner isn't insulted by your offer...you didn't bid low enough!!!

What, countries like Norway (3%), Switzerland (3.1%), Japan (4.5%), Israel (5%), Germany (5.4%)? Sure; which of those countries should our health care system be more like?

Switzerland has a mandatory insurance law and it works for them but we're not the Swiss.

A few other observations:

First, we just cemented in place that the United States will never have single payer. When the Swiss passed mandatory insurance, it created hugely powerful insurance cartels. BC/BS just became PG&E.

Second, this was political...like BIG TIME. It's a logical conclusion that something like this had to get through on the basis of someone getting heavily greased. Roberts left his mark by affirming the Constitutionality of the ACA but what did he get in return? There's another shoe to drop.

What IS that other shoe? What did the libs have to give up in order to gain Roberts' support?

I'm thinking faggot marriage is going under the bus. It makes sense.

61   ArtimusMaxtor   2012 Jul 1, 3:03am  

So much for looking forward to joyus times lol. Certain things have been talked about that may not happen lol. Thanks for the segway. lol. I'm just like people for the most part anyway. Some thought should go into your own life. Some people like writing. Writing as a thing of the past was friendship.

62   Danaseb   2012 Jul 1, 4:34am  

'faggot marriage' huh, guess this place really is turning into a cesspool of right wing bigotry after all. You people are your own worse enemies and deserve every bit of misfortune you will suffer, whether by evil libs or your own stupidity.

63   rootvg   2012 Jul 1, 5:55am  

Danaseb says

'faggot marriage' huh, guess this place really is turning into a cesspool of right wing bigotry after all. You people are your own worse enemies and deserve every bit of misfortune you will suffer, whether by evil libs or your own stupidity.

Don't stick something where God never intended it to go and you'll avoid all the problems that come with it.

64   Dan8267   2012 Jul 1, 7:34am  

rootvg says

Don't stick something where God never intended it to go and you'll avoid all the problems that come with it.

1. There is no god.
2. If your god actually existed, he wouldn't have intended us to burn fossil fuels sticking methylmercury into the oceans and the world's entire population of fish.

Why don't I see you campaigning against pollution as fervently as you are against homosexuality? Surely destroying god's greatest creation, the Earth, is far more offensive to your fictitious deity than two men being deeply in love with each other.

65   Tenpoundbass   2012 Jul 1, 11:42pm  

rootvg you're going to Hell, no not the Jesus hell where the devil stands laughing, as you burn in molten cottage cheese. There is no laughing where you're going.

Back to topic,

So my Puerto Rican bass player that only injects the black part of his heritage when defending Obama, is not to happy with Obama to much now.
It sure seems all of my Obama gripes are falling on deaf ears these days. I'm losing all of my huckleberries.

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