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Earthquake Insurance, Good Idea? Do folks get it?


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2012 Jul 9, 4:13pm   4,206 views  12 comments

by sf_peasant   ➕follow (0)   💰tip   ignore  

Hello,

I am interested in buying a TIC in the City that unfortunately is in the Mission and just barely in an area of soil prone to liquifaction ber the SF soil map.

The building is a 1960s building and 2 stories ,wood framed.

Can I get earthquake insurance for just my unit? Is it worth it? I dont have any valuable possesions, Id mainly be worried about structural damage.

Will the City/ State/ Fed Govt help home owners like they did in Katrina?

Id appreciate any feedback.

Thanks.
Victor.

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1   Eman   2012 Jul 9, 5:03pm  

There are too many things that are wrong with this deal for me. However, your risk tolerance might be much higher than me. So here it goes.

1). I hate TIC (tenant in common).
2). Being in a liquefaction zone is not a deal breaker for me. However, you have to do further research on this. If your property is situated on liquefiable sand, then no deal. If it is situated on top of a clay layer overlying the liquefiable sand, I don't mind. There was an extensive study in the Mission District after the Loma Prieta Earthquake in 1989. Google it.
3). Since the property was constructed in 1960's, there is a high chance that it is supported on a footing foundation, which may not perform very well during an earthquake.
4). Earthquake insurance is very expensive & the deductible is very high. Contact an insurance agent about the 2nd part of your question.
5). If history is any indications, we are 4 years overdue for an earthquake from the Hayward Fault. How do you like a house with extensive foundation and structure damage shortly after you just bought it? This is the reason why paying off a property doesn't make sense to me. Basically, you've just transferred all the risk to yourself instead of leaving 80%-96.5% of the risk to the lender.

Just my 2 cents of course. :0)

2   sf_peasant   2012 Jul 10, 12:26am  

Hey E-man, thanks for taking the time to reply. I appreciate it. I really love this unit, but this does manke me anxious.

Can you tell me where the"extensive study in the mission district" is on the intternet? Either a link or some google words would help. I couldnt find anything.

You also said footing foundation? Is that opposed to drilled piers?

Thanks a ton.

3   sf_peasant   2012 Jul 10, 12:27am  

Thanks Ptiemann.

4   New Renter   2012 Jul 10, 2:51am  

sf_peasant says

Will the City/ State/ Fed Govt help home owners like they did in Katrina?

No, but the Mexican army might! I think you can count on them more than you can FEMA.

5   New Renter   2012 Jul 10, 2:55am  

sf_peasant says

The building is a 1960s building and 2 stories ,wood framed.

Did it or any of its neighbors suffer damage in the Loma Prieta quake? Was it retrofitted?

A trip to city hall may be in order. Check online for building permits. You may get lucky and find the original plans filed away somewhere in the records as well.

6   sf_peasant   2012 Jul 10, 2:44pm  

City hall or the Dept of Building Inspections on Mission Street?
I would totally look into it.

7   Randy H   2012 Jul 10, 3:06pm  

ptiemann has it right. Don't buy it. You're better off to take whatever you'd have paid in premiums to Vegas and hope for a streak at the craps table.

8   Peter P   2012 Jul 10, 3:14pm  

What about partial coverage? Homes are built pretty well nowadays but I worry most about medium-sized damages ($20K) and loss of use (hotel for two months, another $10K). Premium should be manageable (less than $1K a year).

9   sf_peasant   2012 Jul 10, 3:31pm  

Hi Peter P,
Yes the insurance is 950$ a year and covers 75,000$ of damage with a 11,000 deductible. That doesnt seem so bad.

10   Peter P   2012 Jul 10, 3:38pm  

Hi sf_peasant. It does not look too bad. But Randy has a point too...

BTW, who is the underwriter?

11   HEY YOU   2012 Jul 10, 4:48pm  

Raise the unit & install pontoons & it will float if the ground liquifies.

sf_peasant, Good luck with whatever decision you make.

12   New Renter   2012 Jul 11, 2:27am  

HEY YOU says

Raise the unit & install pontoons & it will float if the ground liquifies.

Or break off and go floating down the street much like the Crimson Permanent Assurance building in the opening scenes of Monty Pythons "The Meaning of Life"

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