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If you got a business you didn't build that, someone else made that happen.
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2012 Jul 19, 5:31am 65,027 views 172 comments
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Dan8267
2012 Aug 3, 9:47am
I think LBJ knew that Civil Rights would be a political loser in the short run, but that history bends towards justice.
I'm not so sure about history bending towards justice, although I would like to believe that. History has over the past 300 years (since the Enlightenment) slowly bent that way, but who knows if that will continue. I do think that technological and scientific advancements tend to promote social justice and that would make societies more just as time goes on.
I agree that LBJ knew backing the Civil Rights would entail a short-term drop in support and he was willing to accept that. However, I don't consider that to be a noble sacrifice but rather a shrewd political calculation.
It's not remotely accurate to equate Obama's failures with Bush's assault on American ideals and Civil Liberties.
It's certainly not remotely accurate to equate Obama's economic failures with Bush's assault on American ideals and civil liberties as well as human rights.
However, Obama has certainly continued Bush's assault on American ideas, civil liberties, and human rights. Obama has even continued the path that Bush blazed in exactly the same way Bush would have. Obama's drone strikes on innocent civilians including children is the latest example.
I think that arrogent comment " you didn't build that, someone else made that happen" is going to define the mentality and "type cast" him, just as did "I never has sex with that women" or "read my lips, no new taxes".
Honest Abe says
CL - I'm 100% with you on the....
Then prioritize, my friend. It's not remotely accurate to equate Obama's failures with Bush's assault on American ideals and Civil Liberties.
What is there to prioritize. Although I agree with you in regards to the importance of the issues you listed, HonesAbe was simply following the topic that was at discussion...
Also, why do people continue to compare Bush to Obama? I think most people (even repubs) here would argue that Bush was an idiot, but I find that many liberals always turn back to this statement.."well bush was worse than obama." This really is a non argument. Bad is bad Bush was bad... so is Obama.
CL
2012 Aug 6, 3:12am
What is there to prioritize?
Prioritize the issues that matter, not some stupid misquote or some gay-bashing Chicken choker.
But when people are led around by the nose by some "divide and distract" GOP talking points, it does the entire country a disservice.
If Obama has been ineffective, why? I believe any ineffectiveness has been a result of GOP obstructionism. Voters are free to believe that he is in the pocket of big business (the only other logical conclusion).
But, this type of dialogue is all heat and no light. Folks need to focus-- The GOP would love it if you would not.
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OMG. What a totally offensive, devisive statement. Did the president of the United States REALLY say that? Thats got to down as one of the stupidest things ever said. It even tops Bush's statement: "We're dismantling free market principles in order to save the free market".
Success is continually demonized by the "president". Class warfare at it finest. Right up there with "make the rich pay their fair share". Punative progressive taxes are a classic example of punishing success. Is it any wonder America is in the tank?
This election isn't about Romneys success, its about oB'amam's failure.
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