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37   B.A.C.A.H.   2024 Sep 23, 6:58pm  

WookieMan says

they've been banned for a long time out there

The ban was lifted a while ago.

I like the plastic bags because I re-use them for stuff like with your son. And now that I'm providing day care for an infant, they are handy for used diapers.

We'll have to BUY them now, with our super-high regressive sales tax added to the price.
38   mell   2024 Sep 23, 7:02pm  

WookieMan says


Patrick says






Wasn't that done 7-8 years ago? My kid puked in a rental car out there. Asked for plastic bags for the paper towels from clean up. He said he can't hand them out. I was polite and said you basically admitted you still have some stock in the back room (liquor store) between La Jolla and Anaheim as the destination.

I'm like dude I'm in a pinch with a rental car. Kind of need it cleaned up. He was nice enough and got me some. I thought they've been banned for a long time out there. Maybe based on county at the time?


It was but they left an out for reusable (paid for) hard plastic bahs which were decent to use.
39   B.A.C.A.H.   2024 Sep 23, 7:21pm  

mell says

It was but they left an out for reusable (paid for) hard plastic bahs which were decent to use.

Those have been great for putting poopy diapers into when away from home with the infant. But Gavin probably had paid help for those matters with his kids.
41   WookieMan   2024 Sep 24, 3:47am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

The ban was lifted a while ago.

Didn't know. Usually anytime I'm out there recently I'm buying 1-2 items tops and tossing it in a hotel fridge. So I don't need a bag.

My wife saves all ours (and they're free). We have a stinky teenager so he bags his soccer cleats in his backpack so it doesn't transfer the awful smell to his jersey or locker and he gets known as the smelly kid. No joking, he's not allowed to keep his cleats in the house anymore. I'm fine as an adult, but it must be something genetic with stinky feet. Mine used to be bad and I still get sweaty working around the house.

I had it bad. There's a Zappa line in there, but I'm not looking up how to spell the word.
42   WookieMan   2024 Sep 24, 4:00am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

But Gavin probably had paid help for those matters with his kids.

That's the problem with some of these governors. Mine in IL is a billionaire. There's not a chance he took care of his kids. Sure maybe he showed up to games and sat their eating a massive sub sandwich. They're completely disconnect with real life. Not paying for a nanny when my wife and I are completely capable. We could financially. We won't.

As a man my sons and nephew need to see me there. Especially the nephew with sperm donor in prison. Sports, making meals, show them how to make food, travel, etc. Travel was the only thing my dad got right. I think I've been to about 90% of the civil war battle sites. Lived a good part of my life in the FL Panhandle. A lot of memories that were good outside of him yelling at my mom about directions. Oh the days without phones. That was a real treat with that ass hole.

I did get my driving permit hours for the license driving down there. I had memorized the route by 14. So my parents just slept and I drove. One year for my oldest. Time flies isn't a god damn joke. Jesus, my kid is going to be driving a car. Just crashed a 4-wheeler.
44   WookieMan   2024 Oct 23, 10:13am  

Well there goes a couple million. I'll just visit places on the coast or mountain areas. I like my flat land.
45   Ceffer   2024 Oct 23, 11:14am  

There's a cluster fuck EM energy emanating from the earth that causes the hive to bee mob into the most dangerous (and beautiful) areas of Cali. Dangling off of hills and cliffs, on fault lines, by waterways, overlooking the manifestly erosive Pacific. It's a lite form of the ozone madness preceding hurricanes.

I wouldn't have one of those house danglies on the Cali cliffs by the ocean. In any five to ten year period, you're gonna get fucked and they age four times faster (wind and salt, everything that can rust will rust) than an ordinary inland house. The beach places are constantly being renovated for the rich to playground in. Nonetheless, the prices are outrageous for the exclusivity and show.

One guy on the cliff where I paddle board lost half his back yard to the ocean a couple of years ago. Shored things up but the for sale sign was up within a few months. Some ancient artifacts were found in the landslide. Kids in his yard used to yell at me when I got a wave around there.

All the rip rap and the expensive concrete walls trying to hold back the erosive Pacific are only supposed to last a mere fifteen years or so.
46   Patrick   2024 Oct 23, 12:35pm  

zzyzzx says






That shit is real. I've driven by a few like that after big storms here.

When I first moved to CA, it was the El Nino year and the local creek filled to overflowing with fast muddy water. One day I saw an entire backyard deck float by.
47   WookieMan   2024 Oct 23, 12:58pm  

Patrick says

That shit is real. I've driven by a few like that after big storms here.

When I first moved to CA, it was the El Nino year and the local creek filled to overflowing with fast muddy water. One day I saw an entire backyard deck float by.

You have to drive the pilings/steel at least 20' and even that might not be enough if you do it right. Each one is an easy $50k. Probably need 15 on that house. Houses are too close so I'm not sure you can get a crane in there anyway.

I don't get what engineers were thinking. You don't even have to be that close to a cliff to understand what is going to happen, even if you're not an engineer. Problem is people that see this type of stuff will scream global warming.

You built a house or bought a house on a soil cliff. Just because it is temperate with little rain doesn't mean earth doesn't erode at some point. That pool is toast too. So there's another $150k and insurance likely won't cover it or they'll drop you. That's a $2M job all day.
48   RWSGFY   2024 Oct 23, 1:33pm  

50 years ago when that shack was built it was not "close to the cliff", mwahahahaha.
50   RC2006   2024 Oct 23, 7:08pm  

How much will this increase gas prices? Gas lost will be replaced by bringing in gas from overseas.

Phillips 66 announced Wednesday it will close its 650-acre oil refinery complex near the Port of Los Angeles by the fourth quarter of 2025, days after Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) signed a new law regulating gas storage and refineries.

The refinery in Wilmington, together with a complex in Carson 5 miles away, produces up to 85,000 barrels per day of gasoline and 65,000 barrels per day of distillates, such as diesel.
51   SoTex   2024 Oct 23, 7:13pm  

RC2006 says

How much will this increase gas prices? Gas lost will be replaced by bringing in gas for overseas.

Phillips 66 announced Wednesday it will close its 650-acre oil refinery complex near the Port of Los Angeles by the fourth quarter of 2025, days after Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) signed a new law regulating gas storage and refineries.

The refinery in Wilmington, together with a complex in Carson 5 miles away, produces up to 85,000 barrels per day of gasoline and 65,000 barrels per day of distillates, such as diesel.


Daaaymn! That's gonna hurt.
52   Ceffer   2024 Oct 23, 7:39pm  

Patrick says

One day I saw an entire backyard deck float by.

Were the people still in the hot tub?
53   RWSGFY   2024 Oct 23, 8:06pm  

RC2006 says

How much will this increase gas prices? Gas lost will be replaced by bringing in gas for overseas.

Phillips 66 announced Wednesday it will close its 650-acre oil refinery complex near the Port of Los Angeles by the fourth quarter of 2025, days after Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) signed a new law regulating gas storage and refineries.

The refinery in Wilmington, together with a complex in Carson 5 miles away, produces up to 85,000 barrels per day of gasoline and 65,000 barrels per day of distillates, such as diesel.


Last time they allowed gas from overseas it required relaxing of "specisl formulation" requirement, iirc.
54   WookieMan   2024 Oct 23, 8:24pm  

RWSGFY says

50 years ago when that shack was built it was not "close to the cliff", mwahahahaha.

Yes it was. Wasn't engineered properly. You can avoid erosion like that no problem. It's not complicated. But whatever? Look at the house to the North. It's fucked. They didn't do pilings correctly. This is engineering 101. Do it right once.
55   Ceffer   2024 Oct 23, 11:24pm  

WookieMan says

You can avoid erosion like that no problem.

I can see you have never met the Pacific Ocean.
56   WookieMan   2024 Oct 24, 3:26am  

I have in many parts of the of the West coast from Seattle to San Diego many of times.

My folks owned a condo on a barrier island in Florida in the panhandle. All it is, is 12' of sand above sea level (if that) and gets hit by up to CAT 4 hurricanes. Still there's no erosion. 1/4 of a mile at widest. It's a sand bar basically.

Kind of weird a place that doesn't get hurricanes wasn't engineered as well as places in FL? If you want to live on water you need to engineer it correctly or plan better when building. Doesn't matter what body of water.

That slide could have been prevented. If you don't have the money to put in proper infrastructure to secure your property, don't live there? That place is uninsurable now without spending millions.
57   Booger   2024 Oct 24, 3:40am  

zzyzzx says






Instant infinity pool!!!
58   RWSGFY   2024 Oct 24, 7:06am  

WookieMan says


RWSGFY says


50 years ago when that shack was built it was not "close to the cliff", mwahahahaha.

Yes it was. Wasn't engineered properly. You can avoid erosion like that no problem. It's not complicated. But whatever? Look at the house to the North. It's fucked. They didn't do pilings correctly. This is engineering 101. Do it right once.



There are buildings in, say, Pacifica which are front row now but weren't less than 10 years ago. That coastline constantly moves inward.

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