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Yeah, rational my ass. Thanks for this ODham, that site is a hoot, shows that Buddhism is just like the Monotheistic religions, people fighting over unprovable assertions of woo.

There are more different sects of Buddhism than of Christianity. They vary from the hyper-rational to the woo-woo sprits and levitation stuff.

Very true Patrick. For some reason the woos seem to dominate the Buddhist Internet. On the forum I have posted a link to, non-woos are ganged up on...

There are more different sects of Buddhism than of Christianity. They vary from the hyper-rational to the woo-woo sprits and levitation stuff.

That's true Patrick, but Zen Buddhism (from whence Golden Mountain Buddhism derives largely) is a minority sect. The majority of Buddhist sects proffer a great deal of supernatural belief. The number of writings on demonology in Buddhism dwarf those produced by the Catholic church, for example.

Just like there are very liberal and rational Priests and laity in the Catholic Church, it's much more common for most Priests and adherents in Global Catholicism to believe in the power of Shrines and Icons. Buddhism is the same way.

ODham says

Very true Patrick. For some reason the woos seem to dominate the Buddhist Internet. On the forum I have posted a link to, non-woos are ganged up on...

ODham says

Very true Patrick. For some reason the woos seem to dominate the Buddhist Internet. On the forum I have posted a link to, non-woos are ganged up on...

One chap left recently when he was verbally lynched for doubting the literal existence of spirits. One of the lynch mob solemnly assured the congregation/membership that the spirits he frequently encountered in the English countryside all spoke Tibetan.
Point being its just another religion at heart.
Albeit one which has a lot of techniques which isolated from their superstitious context could be useful in promoting calmness and relaxation.

In America we have the right to believe in whatever woo-woo you choo-choose! The point at which the law steps in is where your religion causes you to break the law and thus impinge on the rights of others. It's called tolerance, and it's a pretty radical idea. It's virtually unknown in Moslem countries where you can and will be lynched for daring to 1) speak against Islam, 2) do something the local imam has forbidden (dance anyone?),3) convert from Islam to another religion (apostasy, punishable by death!), or disrespect a book of lies.

That there is a choice is certainly true Quigley.

Quigley says

In America we have the right to believe in whatever woo-woo you choo-choose! The point at which the law steps in is where your religion causes you to break the law and thus impinge on the rights of others. It's called tolerance, and it's a pretty radical idea. It's virtually unknown in Moslem countries where you can and will be lynched for daring to 1) speak against Islam, 2) do something the local imam has forbidden (dance anyone?),3) convert from Islam to another religion (apostasy, punishable by death!), or disrespect a book of lies.

Yep, and I have the right to call it hookum.

Of course, this tolerance shit is all brand new.

In Colonial Maryland, Jews were banned from office, but Catholics were allowed - in Colonial New York (New Amsterdam) it was the opposite - Jews could hold office but not Catholics!

Not much more than 200 years ago (and often thereafter), and for most of the domination of the Zombie Carpenter's religion, disagreeing with authorities meant burning at the stake - often on the most minor theological disagreements. See Thomas More, Thomas Beckett, Hugh Latimore, Torquemada, Anne Hutchinson, Servetus, Spinoza (both by Jews AND Calvinists), and those are just off the top of my head. Lutheran, Catholic, Calvinist, Jewish, Baptist, Congregationalist, you name 'em, they crushed free speech.

And within religions there is plenty of oppression - look at the history of the Jesuits, for one.

And of course the recent crop of western kids who have been declared to be " tulkus" ( reincarnations of lamas ) and who are taken from their families for " training " have little choice. Although some are now hitting their teens and twenties and kicking over the traces.

One who had no choice was Osel Hita Torres, a Spanish boy recognized by the Dalai Lama as the reincarnation of a previous Tibetan Lama He became the most well known of the western "reincarnations" as a result of a best selling book " Reincarnation; The Boy Lama " by Vicky McKenzie.
He was taken from his family home and raised in what he himself described as " medieval " conditions, he has spoken eloquently of his suffering as a child as a result of this form of abduction.
On reaching adulthood he disrobed.
He wants be a film maker.
I wish him well.

Another wonderful thread on www.dharmawheel.net/ called "Will Buddhism Become Redundant " A " Global Moderator "..ooh er...has just stated that science has reached its limit of usefulness..there is apparently no more to be discovered.
I believe I have come across that POV before..wasn't it commonly held in about 1500 C.E. ?

wow Buddhism sounds great!

perhaps we should follow the Buddhist model that has produced such paradises as China?

ODham says

One who had no choice was Osel Hita Torres, a Spanish boy recognized by the Dalai Lama as the reincarnation of a previous Tibetan Lama He became the most well known of the western "reincarnations" as a result of a best selling book " Reincarnation; The Boy Lama " by Vicky McKenzie.

He was taken from his family home and raised in what he himself described as " medieval " conditions, he has spoken eloquently of his suffering as a child as a result of this form of abduction.

On reaching adulthood he disrobed.

He wants be a film maker.

I wish him well.

shut the fuck up and please go shove a incense stick up Richard Gere's ass.

You hate Christianity but you're willing to buy into the most superstitious nonsense on earth: Tibetan Buddhism. Oh what a fucking suprise this person wants to be a fucking FILM MAKER, that way Hollywood(who fabricated this entire story) can sell $$$$$$ worth of movies with this guy!!!! the dumb Cali shits will eat this sanctimonious shit right up. Lap it up like a dog laps up a puddle of anti-freeze on the driveway. Thanks for reading.

The Original Bankster says

You hate Christianity but you're willing to buy into the most superstitious nonsense on earth: Tibetan Buddhism.

What is it about the Religion section that challenges people's reading comprehension so?

oh LORD I how loathe these fucking sanctimonious RETARDS who think their LIMITED UNDERSTANDING of Buddhism is some kind of credible hallmark of spirituality and 'higher-mindedness'. Makes me want to mow down the entire parking lot party at a grateful dead concert with A FUCKING AK-47! That'll be 300 50-something dentists, tax attorneys, and nose-and-throat specialists that this fucking American WILL NOT MISS.

FUCK CALIFORNIA. Fuck these stupid hippy skanky whores. I heard Buddha approves of abortions and drugging your kids.

thunderlips11 says

The Original Bankster says

You hate Christianity but you're willing to buy into the most superstitious nonsense on earth: Tibetan Buddhism.

What is it about the Religion section that challenges people's reading comprehension so?

Homo Economicus. A Legendary Creature, like Bigfoot, claimed to exist by Pseudoscientists.

What IS IT ABOUT FUCKING LIBERALS WHERE THEY CANT FIGURE OUT THAT CHINA IS THE MOST HORRIFIC STINKING FASCIST LABOR CAMP IN HISTORY?

"well actually Im kind of a buddhist and kind of hindu who likes yoga, etc. etc." BAARRRRRFFFFF!

The Original Bankster says

What IS IT ABOUT FUCKING LIBERALS WHERE THEY CANT FIGURE OUT THAT CHINA IS THE MOST HORRIFIC STINKING FASCIST LABOR CAMP IN HISTORY?

If you've read ODham's posts, you'd know that he's CRITICAL of Buddhism, not an endorser of it.

thunderlips11 says

The Original Bankster says

What IS IT ABOUT FUCKING LIBERALS WHERE THEY CANT FIGURE OUT THAT CHINA IS THE MOST HORRIFIC STINKING FASCIST LABOR CAMP IN HISTORY?

If you've read ODham's posts, you'd know that he's CRITICAL of Buddhism, not an endorser of it.

Homo Economicus. A Legendary Creature, like Bigfoot, claimed to exist by Pseudoscientists.

READ?????? WTF THIS IS THE INTERNET DAMMIT!!!!

LOL

The Original Banker@ 16,
Can I come over to your house & make a list of everything made in Communist China? If I find anything does that make you a Communist sympathizer?

HEY YOU says

The Original Banker@ 16,

Can I come over to your house & make a list of everything made in Communist China? If I find anything does that make you a Communist sympathizer?

YOU FUCKING DUMBASS.

Thats the whole point you retard!

why are we cooperating with a communist dictatorship?

why dont we impose tariffs on their goods?

because while Californians are doing this: http://www.collegehumor.com/picture/6469221/fat-guy-plays-flute

they're busy BUYING YOUR VOTE.

your post gets DUMBEST ATTEMPT AT AN ARGUMENT IN YEARS.

I dont hate Christianity.
thunderlips11 says

The Original Bankster says

What IS IT ABOUT FUCKING LIBERALS WHERE THEY CANT FIGURE OUT THAT CHINA IS THE MOST HORRIFIC STINKING FASCIST LABOR CAMP IN HISTORY?

If you've read ODham's posts, you'd know that he's CRITICAL of Buddhism, not an endorser of it.

Homo Economicus. A Legendary Creature, like Bigfoot, claimed to exist by Pseudoscientists.

thunderlips11 says

The Original Bankster says

What IS IT ABOUT FUCKING LIBERALS WHERE THEY CANT FIGURE OUT THAT CHINA IS THE MOST HORRIFIC STINKING FASCIST LABOR CAMP IN HISTORY?

If you've read ODham's posts, you'd know that he's CRITICAL of Buddhism, not an endorser of it.

Homo Economicus. A Legendary Creature, like Bigfoot, claimed to exist by Pseudoscientists.

thunderlips11 says

The Original Bankster says

What IS IT ABOUT FUCKING LIBERALS WHERE THEY CANT FIGURE OUT THAT CHINA IS THE MOST HORRIFIC STINKING FASCIST LABOR CAMP IN HISTORY?

If you've read ODham's posts, you'd know that he's CRITICAL of Buddhism, not an endorser of it.

Homo Economicus. A Legendary Creature, like Bigfoot, claimed to exist by Pseudoscientists.

I dont hate Christianity...and I would think it is obvious that imo Buddhism is largely a big pack of fluffy nonsense enclosing a small useful core of relaxation techniques. But feel free to vent.

ODham says

I dont hate Christianity...and I would think it is obvious that imo Buddhism is largely a big pack of fluffy nonsense enclosing a small useful core of relaxation techniques. But feel free to vent.

I will. now go take your infectious faggotry elsewhere.

Original Banster "ignored". Please feel free to vent. I wont be reading it.

ODham says

Original Banster "ignored". Please feel free to vent. I wont be reading it.

thanks for announcing that guy, like anyone cares.

Original Bankster is (yet another) far-right troll I have on ignore.

I also have a few far-left trolls on ignore. But it seems the far-right trolls are more numerous on Patnet.

freak80 says

I also have a few far-left trolls on ignore.

who would that be Mao Tzedung?

sure you've got us all convinced you have well rounded political beliefs.

do you have a black friend too?