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obomba, obummer, the lady's got a couple of points.


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2012 Sep 21, 2:30am   16,905 views  47 comments

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I believe Barack Obama was put into office to do what no Republican could ever have gotten away with. Obama has extend the wars, created new wars, extended the Bush tax cuts for the rich, given additional bail out money to the banks, allowed the health insurance industry to write the healthcare bill, extended the Patriot Act and signed the NDAA.

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41   Newman1979   2012 Sep 24, 12:35am  

In answer to your questions, 2009 was Bush's budget. At the time the US was in the deepest recession since the Great Depression. The stimulus saved jobs. We have over 4 million more jobs since the bottom. Two, in 12 of the 20 years, Republicans had control, in 8 years, Republicans had veto control. Three, the debt was $5.3 trillion starting 2002 and over $12 trillion starting 2010. The Tea Party started the debt talk in 2009, when Obama started his Presidency. It was only a few of us complaining in 2002,3,4. Certainly no Republican politician except Ron Paul was complaining. These facts are from Zfacts.com basically.

42   tatupu70   2012 Sep 24, 1:00am  

Reader says

Especially since they do NOT include food or gas into calculations of the CPI?

I can't believe how many people keep restating obvious lies like this.

They DO include both food and gas in the CPI.

They also publish something called the core CPI where they take out volatile items to try to smooth out the wild variations that sometimes occur in commodities. Like when there's a drought in the Midwest. Or when there's political instability in the Middle East. I assume that's what you are refering to.

43   37108605   2012 Sep 24, 1:08am  

tatupu70 says

Reader says

Especially since they do NOT include food or gas into calculations of the CPI?

I can't believe how many people keep restating obvious lies like this.

They DO include both food and gas in the CPI.

They also publish something called the core CPI where they take out volatile items to try to smooth out the wild variations that sometimes occur in commodities. Like when there's a drought in the Midwest. Or when there's political instability in the Middle East. I assume that's what you are refering to.

Core CPI
http://inflationdata.com/articles/category/inflation-2/quantitative-easing/

44   tatupu70   2012 Sep 24, 1:18am  

Reader says

tatupu70 says



Reader says



Especially since they do NOT include food or gas into calculations of the CPI?


I can't believe how many people keep restating obvious lies like this.


They DO include both food and gas in the CPI.


They also publish something called the core CPI where they take out volatile items to try to smooth out the wild variations that sometimes occur in commodities. Like when there's a drought in the Midwest. Or when there's political instability in the Middle East. I assume that's what you are refering to.


Core CPI
http://inflationdata.com/articles/category/inflation-2/quantitative-easing/


Reader

Glad you understand the difference now. Try to keep it straight.

45   37108605   2012 Sep 24, 1:25am  

tatupu70 says

Glad you understand the difference now.

I stand corrected on the above I meant to include CORE to the statement and will include it now so please cut your off the cuff arrogance over a single error as regards my understanding. Thank you.

Let's talk Core CPI is it not the Core CPI that is used by U.S. Fed Reserve's decisions about U.S. Monetary Policy? And do they NOT leave out food and gas and such when making such decisions? ??? And while we are at it let's get into the fractional reserve system (FRS) too!

As they say don't assume. I am not as ignorant as you thought.

46   37108605   2012 Sep 24, 1:40am  

It is all expained in a two word phrase TAX CREEP (look it up.)

47   tatupu70   2012 Sep 24, 3:57am  

Reader says

Let's talk Core CPI is it not the Core CPI that is used by U.S. Fed Reserve's decisions about U.S. Monetary Policy? And do they NOT leave out food and gas and such when making such decisions? ??? And while we are at it let's get into the fractional reserve system (FRS) too!

I don't know exactly which metrics the Federal Reserve uses when making decisions, but my assumption would be that they would weigh many, many data points. I think I've seen that they even look at purchases of men's ties and women's bras. I'm sure both CPI and core CPI are analyzed. And I'm also sure that they look very deep into both numbers--understanding why prices in each sector are either rising or falling.

To imply that the Federal Reserve policymakers are so lazy as to just use a single number in the analysis is beyond ridiculous.

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