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The Assault on Honest Debate


               
2012 Oct 11, 8:57am   19,582 views  42 comments

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307952010/?tag=patricknet-20

An account of how Juan Williams got fired from NPR just for publicly saying that he felt uncomfortable sitting next to obviously Muslims people on airplanes. He didn't even say it on NPR! Shows how political correctness stifles debate -- and how the right wing does it too, maybe even more so.

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37   Bap33   @   2012 Nov 25, 6:45am  

Bellingham Bill says

When we intentionally rapidly oxidize ("burn") these sugars, this embedded chemical energy is released as radiation

and I said, "or, you can say you release the energy trapped inside the matter and seperate the matter into diferent compounds"

I think I grasp this pretty well .... but, this example is only talking about burning a bio source. We can burn rocks, that have no sugars, and release energy too. So, I just kept it simple. My bad.

38   Bellingham Bill   @   2012 Nov 25, 7:14am  

Bap33 says

We can burn rocks, that have no sugars, and release energy too.

actually we're just rearranging the carbon-compound chemical bonds in fossil fuels, too. The organic matter that became fossil fuels was the product of photosynthesis, too, for that matter.

"organic' techincally means carbon-based, btw.

2H₂ + O₂ → 2H₂O exothermic reaction has no carbon in it, LOL. Thermite, and lime + aluminum are also non-organic power sources.

As are electrical batteries like lead acid (lead + hydrogen sulfate), NiCd and lithium polymer . . .

39   Bap33   @   2012 Nov 26, 10:08am  

now we are on the same page .... matter = energy, and energy = matter.

matter is a compound of atoms that move around when they gain energy and when they lose energy.

My dry cell Optima battery is really nice.

40   Vicente   @   2012 Nov 28, 5:55am  

Juan's core polemic is pointedly ignorant horseshit.

Look, he works for large entity which makes money. Whether it's NPR or it's Fox News, they own the microphone. You do or say something that offends your employer's sensibilities, you are history.

You want absolute "free speech" without worrying about getting fired, then buy your own microphone.

Pretending otherwise is like he's just discovered something everyone else has known since the beginnings of mass media. You think a reporter employed by William Randolph Hearst wrote any stories about the wonders of hemp?

41   curious2   @   2012 Nov 28, 6:03am  

Vicente says

You think a reporter employed by William Randolph Hearst wrote any stories about the wonders of hemp?

This question reminds me of a famous story about Hearst, which even Orson Welles acknowledged by presenting it in the movie Citizen Kaine. Hearst fell in love with a talented Vaudeville-type comedic showgirl named Marion Davies, and he pressured her to sing serious opera which seemed to him more dignified. A Hearst theater critic, who was also a drunkard, wrote a scathing review but passed out at his desk, missing his deadline. Hearst completed the negative review and ran it, then fired the writer for being drunk on the job and missing the deadline. Hearst was also famous for dinner parties at San Simeon where he invited people who disagreed totally about everything.

42   Bap33   @   2012 Nov 28, 7:02am  

Vicente says

You want absolute "free speech" without worrying about getting fired, then buy your own microphone.

100% correct.

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