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Outlawed By Amazon


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2012 Oct 24, 12:57pm   8,327 views  14 comments

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http://www.bekkelund.net/2012/10/22/outlawed-by-amazon-drm/

Linn travels a lot and therefore has, or should I say had, a lot of books on her Kindle, purchased from Amazon. Suddenly, her Kindle was wiped and her account was closed. Being convinced that something wrong had happened, she sent an e-mail to Amazon, asking for help.

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1   Philistine   2012 Oct 24, 6:30pm  

This is all part of the endgame. They can't turn off my paper-and-horse-glue books. Or stun gun my carburetor. When Reversion to the Dark Ages walks in the room and sits on our faces, a few of us will still have motor skills beyond fingering a liquid crystal display.

2   lisalisa   2012 Oct 24, 10:00pm  

Typical for the UK...

3   Tenpoundbass   2012 Oct 24, 10:35pm  

I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for anyone that would forgo tangible property CD, Book, magazine, Movie and actually pay for a digital representation. Not only that but pay as much as they would have for that hard copy. I thought it was a horrible idea when iTunes came out with their model, and I thought it was a horrific idea when Amazon decided to declare books obsolete.

I am constantly amazed at the short sightedness of our modern society, time and time again we march with a smile on our face and our eyes glazed to one ass pounding or an other.

What happens when the internet goes kaput one day(for what ever reason). Or a new format comes out in the future. I just shudder to think of the volumes and volumes of books out there, that will be excluded as formats change or the new New way comes out.

Eventually at this pace, the only eBooks people will have access to, will be the ones some authority deemed worthy of digitizing.

Tell Linn to go to the Library and shit can her Kindle, then consider her self lucky she caught on early.

4   JodyChunder   2012 Oct 24, 11:26pm  

CaptainShuddup says

What happens when the internet goes kaput one day(for what ever reason).

Massive Solar Flare?

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0509/How-a-solar-flare-could-send-us-back-to-the-Stone-Age

5   zzyzzx   2012 Oct 24, 11:52pm  

I also wouldn't pay the bloated prices for digital media when then real thing is almost the same price or can be bought used.

Article commentary is interesting since it mentions the workaround to prevent this type of thing.

6   Dan8267   2012 Oct 24, 11:59pm  

This is exactly why you shouldn't buy any DRM content and should not spend a penny on the Kindle. Hopefully, publicity from this will cut their sales by 90%. Only by losing money will they change their ways.

7   Dan8267   2012 Oct 25, 12:02am  

If I were Linn, I'd have my credit card company issue a chargeback for every charge Amazon made for the purchases removed from her Kindle as well as for the Kindle purchase. Chargebacks hurt bad merchants and make it harder and more expensive for them to accept electronic payments.

8   JodyChunder   2012 Oct 25, 12:37am  

CaptainShuddup says

I am constantly amazed at the short sightedness of our modern society,

I hear ya. I'm still waiting for talkies to blow over.

9   elliemae   2012 Oct 25, 1:24am  

Dan8267 says

If I were Linn, I'd have my credit card company issue a chargeback for every charge Amazon made for the purchases removed from her Kindle as well as for the Kindle purchase. Chargebacks hurt bad merchants and make it harder and more expensive for them to accept electronic payments.

I doubt Amazon would give a shit about these chargebacks. won't affect them at all if it happens - but it won't. Amazon is goliath

10   Tenpoundbass   2012 Oct 25, 2:05am  

JodyChunder says

I hear ya. I'm still waiting for talkies to blow over.

Yeah but the difference here is, Silent films that were made were still available in their original format. They weren't dubbed over with sound.

11   SkyPirate   2012 Oct 25, 3:11am  

I'll stick with my paperback books, thanks.

12   Dan8267   2012 Oct 25, 3:17am  

elliemae says

I doubt Amazon would give a shit about these chargebacks. won't affect them at all if it happens - but it won't. Amazon is goliath

The chargebacks would effectively compensate Linn.

As for whether or not Amazon feels any pain, it's all about ratios. They problem don't often delete people's books because that would be very bad for business, so this wouldn't push Amazon into paying more for merchant accounts. However, I'm sure they won't like the precedent of having to fully refund people's accounts when they do delete books. It might make them more cautious.

13   elliemae   2012 Oct 26, 2:00am  

They sell millions of books each day - I doubt a few will hurt them.

Not sure if you read the info patrick & i posted about the kindle select program. Buried deep in the paperwork is that you promise not to sell or make available the book electronically for any purpose at all, or amazon can delete you from the earth and sue the shit outta you.

So, if you write a book and use that program, you can't even email a copy to Aunt June in the care center.

Amazon is goliath, but at the moment it's all we've got. Their numbers trend by the hour - so the other day I sold 4 books in one hour and became #11 in nursinghome/medical books. Then I dropped down to complete obscurity.... Ah, the glory.

14   Patrick   2012 Oct 26, 2:06am  

I don't feel great about publishing on Kindle, but Elliemae showed me that it is possible not to give away all your rights so I went ahead and did it.

Paper sales are running about the same as Kindle sales for me. One or two of each per day.

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