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How to fix education?


               
2012 Nov 9, 3:36pm   161,137 views  91 comments

by Peter P   follow (2)  

Just some ideas...

1) Encourage at least one parent to stay home and raise the kids
2) Dissociate school assignment from residency
3) Teach kids to find passions, ask questions, and get answers with help
4) De-emphasize higher education for all except specialized areas

What else? Throwing money at a failure will only turn it into an expensive failure.

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1   Peter P   @   2012 Nov 9, 3:43pm  

High home prices can be attributed to the "Two Income Trap."

http://www.amazon.com/The-Two-Income-Trap-Middle-Class-Parents/dp/0465090907/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1352532962&sr=8-1&keywords=two+income+trap

I think push-education should be limited to K-6. Then, students should know what they want to know more and educators should help them find answers themselves.

A robust society has people with very different perspectives. For this to happen, education must be flexible. We do not even need a lot of teachers.

2   bmwman91   @   2012 Nov 11, 9:12am  

Education quality is not the problem, parenting quality is in most cases.

3   Dan8267   @   2012 Nov 11, 10:31am  

1) Encourage at least one parent to stay home and raise the kids

Not practical since today it takes two median incomes to raise a family with any kind of financial security. Of course, if half the domestic work force dropped out of the market, wages would rise. But ever family has a strong incentive to defect, so that won't happen.

2) Dissociate school assignment from residency

Absolutely, and there's only one effective way to do that. See below.

3) Teach kids to find passions, ask questions, and get answers with help

It is impossible to teach passion. The best you can do is start a government funded project to breed nerds with supermodels. Their offspring would be beautiful and passionate about learning -- both dominate traits. I've been advocating this for decades to no avail.

4) De-emphasize higher education for all except specialized areas

Raising the bar is essential for degrees and certification to mean anything in the real world. However, doing so will not increase the education of the masses.

The real solution is...

What's wrong with the educational system and how to fix it.

This guy is a genius. He explains everything that needs to be done to end the education crisis and ensure that all people regardless of income, ethnic background, or anything else have the opportunity to maximize their educational potential.

4   thomaswong.1986   @   2012 Nov 11, 10:34am  

Get rid of mindless classes and double up on Math, Science, English, and History.
Cancel everything else ! extend to 9 hrs and 11 months in a year.

Fire teachers who fail.. merit increase who succeed..

This is the Steve Jobs ideas...

5   Dan8267   @   2012 Nov 11, 10:39am  

thomaswong.1986 says

Fire teachers who fail.. merit increase who succeed..

And how does one evaluate the success or failure of teachers? By how well their students do? If so, then all teachers will compete for jobs at schools in which the students already succeed and the poor performing schools will get the worst teachers as no one will want to work there.

Even more importantly, as long as education relies on expensive human labor -- which is fucking retarded in the information age -- then education will be expensive and therefore scarce. It's okay that some things are scarce like gold, diamonds, yachts. But education should not be scarce, and the only way to ensure that is to eliminate the human labor that is proportional to the number of students.

6   Peter P   @   2012 Nov 11, 2:00pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

Get rid of mindless classes and double up on Math, Science, English, and History.

Cancel everything else ! extend to 9 hrs and 11 months in a year.

Fire teachers who fail.. merit increase who succeed..

"Mindless" classes can be vital. A society will not be robust if we start deciding what is useful and what is not.

School weeks can be shortened to 4 days and it will be just as effective. Student just need to think for themselves.

thomaswong.1986 says

This is the Steve Jobs ideas...

A dead visionary is still a dead man. :-)

7   Peter P   @   2012 Nov 11, 2:03pm  

Dan8267 says

But education should not be scarce, and the only way to ensure that is to eliminate the human labor that is proportional to the number of students.

I totally agree.

Education should be readily available, but I rather let students choose what they want earlier on.

We do not need millions who "know" calculus. We need a more philosophy and arts students.

8   Tenpoundbass   @   2012 Nov 11, 11:32pm  

5) - Allow open test for college credits.
6) - stop focusing on the value of an education to a lot of people 17-18 year olds, at a time when they no least about them selves or what they want to do when they grow up. And include that sentiment to all age groups the importance of an education. We should be asking 40 year olds, "What do you want to be when you grow up?"

9   Rin   @   2012 Nov 12, 12:21am  

Fellas, we're in the age of the internet. When I was in school, resources like the sites below, simply did not exist.

http://www.academicearth.org

http://www.khanacademy.org

Now, given that we have much of the pertinent educational content online, why are we still bickering about teachers, class sizes, etc? It seems like the focus on 'fixing' education is very 20th century, when kids should already be learning online and be done with school before coming of age.

10   zzyzzx   @   2012 Nov 12, 10:45pm  

Get rid of teacher's unions.

11   Rin   @   2012 Nov 13, 4:21am  

zzyzzx says

Get rid of teacher's unions.

Yep, but for those who can't wait for politicians to get their acts together ... homeschool your kids, using this & other content:

http://www.academicearth.org

http://www.khanacademy.org

Then, take lower cost, cc college courses for credit, then opt for this low cost British school's online program (http://www.londoninternational.ac.uk/courses/search/?solrsort=sort_title%20asc&filters=%20tid%3A557)

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