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Weapons of any sort are not allowed in prison.

Anyone every watch "Locked up"?

So in the most controlled of environments, guards can be bought off, things can be sneaked in, and hell, people...even the dregs of society....can be damned creative.

Who really things that gun control laws will result in a gun free society?

The Professor says

People that think this way should not be allowed to own firearms.

Yet they do and have obtained them legally in most cases.

Call it Crazy says

Stop focusing on the guns, they are just a "tool", focus on what causes these guys to "snap"...

What? Make support available for sufferers of mental illness and their caregivers? Beyond pills, maybe some actual contact and discussion with a professional? Giving them support and outreach so they don't flip out? Helping their caregivers (many of whom work for a living and can't be around 24/7 to monitor them)?

Nah, it's all the fault of Guns/Atheism/Males/Insert Pet Cause.

Why look at the most shining and obvious problems - isolation/alienation and mental illness?

Call it Crazy says

It just comes off that more people on the "right" CAN think logically and use critical thinking skills regarding firearms, where many on the "left" are ignorant and uneducated regarding firearms and would rather use fear and emotions to drive their agenda instead of "facts"...

Sorry. More people on the "left" think logically and CAN use critical thinking skills regarding firearms, whereas many on the "right" are ignorant and uneducated regarding firearms and would rather use stupidity and emotions to drive their agenda instead of "facts." In fact, a right to bear arms seems far more important to those on the right than a child's right to grow up. People on the right seem to love guns more than they do children.

We really need to to stop ignoring the fact that the availability of guns in this country is literally killing us.

Suburban Gal says

In fact, a right to bear arms seems far more important to those on the right than a child's right to grow up. People on the right appear to love guns more than they do children.

That sounds like sensationalism. They are not mutually exclusive.

I do not even like guns. But they are here and it is not possible to uninvent them.

People on the "right" also do not like to make "progress" for the sake of "progress" itself. There is no virtue in simply "doing something" that could have prevented some past tragedies.

We need to approach this as a people-problem.

Last years there were 33,808 traffic related deaths in the USA. There were only 101 in Estonia.

Ban cars!

Call it Crazy says

thunderlips11 says

Why look at the most shining and obvious problems - isolation/alienation and mental illness?

Because it's logical?? That's why it won't happen....

Because its a bloody expensive problem for one. Of course we've just traded expensive psychiatric and mental institutions for expensive law enforcement->judicial->prison sytems.

We need a society in which people genuinely care about their neighbors.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

If I am not Free to field tactical nukes to waste fuckers that fuck with me Freedom has no meaning.

I'll see your puny tactical nuke and raise you a strategic:

Yee Haa!

Gotta think big my friend

Peter P says

We need a society in which people genuinely care about their neighbors.

I hear Canada is nice...