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Meanwhile it was reported last week that fat people out live thin fit people.
Everyone gets sick eventually, and fat people have the reserves to keep them alive while their body and immune system fights the ailment.
Fit and lean people are 10X likely to die from a flu, pneumonia, infection that fat people. People don't eat well when they are sick, since there aren't any fat reserves to keep your energy levels going and immune system engaged, fit people succumb more easily to ailments than most all fat people get over in a few weeks.
As for Cancer everyone's chances of getting cancer is the same. Especially the older you get. Sure you can increase your chances of getting cancer earlier on in life by what you eat, breath, or are exposed to.
But Cancer doesn't discriminate, try to find a pattern in an oncology clinic and you'll be on a fools errand.
This article is timely:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/opinion/our-imaginary-weight-problem.html?_r=1&
Overweight and Grade 1 Obesity (the lowest level), from ALL Causes (not just heart disease) have lower mortality rates than average or below weight individuals.
If we redefined obesity along health outcome lines, then more than a hundred million Americans now defined as "At-Risk" would be considered "Healthy" - but almost 4M Americans now considered "Healthy" would be encouraged to gain weight so they would no longer be "At-Risk".
The real problem in this country is the mysterious wave of DIABETES, which now even children under 18 are getting, including a large proportion of those who are not obese.
I think fat people are less likely to die in severe car crashes. Other than that, I can't think of any other health advantage to being morbidly obese.
If we redefined obesity along health outcome lines, then more than a hundred million Americans now defined as "At-Risk" would be considered "Healthy" - but almost 4M Americans now considered "Healthy" would be encouraged to gain weight so they would no longer be "At-Risk".
You mean re-redefine...
Obesity(which is a serious health problem) is not the same as having a few extra pounds.
I can't think of any other health advantage to being morbidly obese.
There aren't any, morbidly obese is a serious risk, but in the last 5 years, any weight at all has been politicized to shame us, into thinking that by over paying for less and less is for our own good. Like they're doing us a huge favor by gouging us on the cost of groceries and fucking us over the coals. Somebody has to buy those $50 salad greens.
Your chart leaves out morbidly Obese.
I'm 225 at 5'11", and I'd bet my last Twinkie, that someone Obese would love to have my girlie figure.
That chart is 6 years behind. It was just reported last month that obesity is trending down. Since Michelle started starving the kids at schools.
We all live in the blink of an eye in the time scales of the universe. It matters not if you live to a 100 or 50. All that matters is that you enjoy the time you have.
Percentage in the country
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It would be more interesting if the chart went back to 1970, when fat people were rare.
Few americans know anything of substance when it comes to health, nutrition, or how their body works and how to fuel it properly
Diabetes epidemic is only surprising for those that don't understand what causes diabetes and insulin sensitivity.
Sadly, your "medical health professionals" and the policy makers deciding our collective health inputs, are included in those who don't know what the hell they are talking about
People still believe the scientifically disproved falsehood that people are fat because of a glut/excess of calories, when it couldn't be further from the truth
Fat storage is regulated by hormones, and it is the type of calories, not the quantity, that has everyone so goddam unhealthily fat
Overweight and obesity charts were largely implemented by insurance company actuaries, another way insurance companies put their fingers on the scales and charge people higher premiums for vapor conditions.
Most real scientific studies have shown that older people below morbid obesity but with some extra fat are healthier in general, barring smoking, drinking, drug abuse, and diabetes.
1970, when fat people were rare.
Fat kids weren't as common, but there were plenty of fat adults.
Kids were thinner back then because there was only two and a half hours a week of television devoted to children back then. The wonderful world of Disney and the Bugs Bunny Road runner show(90 minutes long).
Kids had to play in the yard all day back then. If a kid ever made the mistake of showing his mug at home before sundown. He would have been straddled with a weeks worth of chores. Now kids sit in squallier, if Mom's not a neat freak, kids today never have to lift a finger.
Most real scientific studies have shown that older people below morbid obesity but with som extra fat are healthier in general
That sounds like a load of pooey. Where are these most real scientific studies you speak of?
What is the evolutionary utility of fat storage?
http://www.neatorama.com/2010/09/09/the-history-of-diets/
Within three months of her first meeting, more than 40 people were cramming into Nidetch's house on a weekly basis. Over the next year, she started several different groups around the New York metro area, finally incorporating her fledgling business in May of 1963. Now down to a trim 142 pounds, Nidetch hosted her first official Weight Watchers meeting, drawing more than 400 attendees.
In 1964... Cameron began the business with a simple pamphlet, price at $1 (cheap!) and within two years he'd sold more than 2 million copies.
Portion sizes need to be regulated at diners. The calorie counts are out of control.
This country has suffered with massive plate syndrome for years and calories need to be displayed clearer on fast food menus and especially all advertising.
Advertise a Big Mac or Whopper with the Calories, educate first!
Portion sizes should not be regulated. I just don't go to places with large portions. If I cannot have 4 courses and be at 70% full, the portion is too large.
Portion sizes should not be regulated. I just don't go to places with large portions. If I cannot have 4 courses and be at 70% full, the portion is too large.
Portions need to be regulated. 15% Tips need to be mandatory.
Peter are you overweight/obese? Have you suffered with being overweight?
Does that stop anyone from buying cookies, cupcakes, ice cream, etc.??
Yes you could eat 10 cupcakes or cookies and at that point I think you would know that was 600/1000 calories.
A single meal or even am item at Burger King or Mc D's is over 1000 calories. You would not know.
Advertise a Big Mac or Whopper with the Calories, educate first!
Right... like that will work...
Yes, it would.
Just like warning labels on cigs.
What about heart disease and high sodium in DIET FOOD!
Doesn't sodium content need to be displayed??
But yes, calories should be advertised.
Caloric info is a moot point, however, I think both sides of the trade would benefit from full disclosure
Sugars/carbohydrates are much, much more important when it comes to watching ones weight as it pertains to fat
Portion sizes should not be regulated. I just don't go to places with large portions. If I cannot have 4 courses and be at 70% full, the portion is too large.
Portions need to be regulated. 15% Tips need to be mandatory.
Peter are you overweight/obese? Have you suffered with being overweight?
Yes I am overweight. Yes my shirts don't fit now.
15% tip is too little. 20% should be the norm. But I want tips and tax to be baked into the price.
Caloric info is a moot point
No it's not. Americans consume way to many calories. The reason, they don't know how many calories they eat!
But yes, calories should be advertised.
Caloric info is a moot point, however, I think both sides of the trade would benefit from full disclosure
Sugars/carbohydrates are much, much more important when it comes to watching ones weight as it pertains to fat
It depends. For me, its water retention.
But yes, calories should be advertised.
Caloric info is a moot point, however, I think both sides of the trade would benefit from full disclosure
Sugars/carbohydrates are much, much more important when it comes to watching ones weight as it pertains to fat
It depends. For me, its water retention.
To a degree, its the same thing. Your body retains that water, because you're eating sugar.the easiest way to make weight is to go on a ketogenic diet for 2-3 days, where your body purges that excess water bloat
But yes, calories should be advertised.
Mayonnaise and Bacon should be advertisement enough?
I know how about fat people skinny people ikons on the packaging?
We all know how Liberals love their monikers and ikons.
Or better yet how about a fat ikon on fat people we can require they wear them like a scarlet letter, why we can shame the pound away. While preaching tolerance and acceptance.
What about heart disease and high sodium in DIET FOOD!
Doesn't sodium content need to be displayed??
I'm pretty sure that sodium AND fat content does need to be displayed.
Portion sizes need to be regulated at diners. The calorie counts are out of control.
This country has suffered with massive plate syndrome for years and calories need to be displayed clearer on fast food menus and especially all advertising.
Advertise a Big Mac or Whopper with the Calories, educate first!
Then I have the perfect warning label for them:
I'm pretty sure that sodium AND fat content does need to be displayed.
I'm pretty sure it does.
But yes, calories should be advertised.
Caloric info is a moot point, however, I think both sides of the trade would benefit from full disclosure
Sugars/carbohydrates are much, much more important when it comes to watching ones weight as it pertains to fat
It depends. For me, its water retention.
To a degree, its the same thing. Your body retains that water, because you're eating sugar.the easiest way to make weight is to go on a ketogenic diet for 2-3 days, where your body purges that excess water bloat
I do not really have a sweet tooth, other than an occasional piece of cheesecake.
70% know about heart disease and diabetes but only 7% seem to know about increased risk in cancer
As you well know I was talking about restaurants and fast food.
What about heart disease and high sodium in DIET FOOD!
Doesn't sodium content need to be displayed??
I'm pretty sure that sodium AND fat content does need to be displayed.
Anything you buy today has to have a nutrition sticker on it...
The problem is, somebody needs to READ it before they CONSUME it....
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As you well know I was talking about restaurants and fast food.
Anyone watch Biggest Loser season opener last night?
One of the previous winners keeps a full sized pic of himself when he was obese within eye shot of his refrigerator.
Portion sizes need to be regulated at diners. The calorie counts are out of control.
This country has suffered with massive plate syndrome for years and calories need to be displayed clearer on fast food menus and especially all advertising.
Advertise a Big Mac or Whopper with the Calories, educate first!
Not necessarily - the most rational choice would be for the consumer to eat the right amount and take the rest home as leftovers - basically split 1 big meal into 2 or 3 reasonable meals.
Not necessarily - the most rational choice would be for the consumer to eat the right amount
Just like eating a balanced diet. that's not going to happen without education.
What makes you think an overweight person is suddenly going to wake up and make the right choices?
Educate the consumer, display the calories, fat, sodium, bullshit chemicals, colorings and dangers!
The food industry refuses to acknowledge GM or GMO as a necessity to add labels, you expect them to work with the consumer without FORCE OF REGULATION!
This is not solely limited to food but also a cosmetics and toiletries.
Do you know the poison you are consuming daily with your toiletries??
As you well know I was talking about restaurants and fast food.
Here then take this with you so you can educate everyone else in MickeyD's when you're there....
http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/getnutrition/nutritionfacts.pdf
I don't eat that garbage shit.
Anyone watch Biggest Loser season opener last night?
One of the previous winners keeps a full sized pic of himself when he was obese within eye shot of his refrigerator.
Why all he needs to do is log into Patrick.net, read your "FUNNY PICTURE THREAD" to remind him of the kind of assholes that exist online to make fun of the overweright.
70% know about heart disease and diabetes but only 7% seem to know about increased risk in cancer
Drinking Apple Juice in excess will cause cancer, If you drink it from China you will get Arsenic poising as well.
Just like that guy who drank 3 quarts of SOY milk everyday and got bitch tits f.
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http://news.yahoo.com/poll-few-americans-know-risks-obesity-085408215.html
Only 7 percent of people surveyed mentioned cancer, although doctors long have known that fat increases the risk of developing cancers of the colon, breast, prostate, uterus and certain other sites. Plus, being overweight can make it harder to spot tumors early and to treat them.
Then there's the toll on your joints, especially the knees. About 15 percent of people knew obesity can contribute to arthritis, a vicious cycle as the joint pain then makes it harder to exercise and shed pounds.
High blood pressure, high cholesterol and strokes were fairly low on the list. Infertility didn't get a mention.
Also, 5 percent put respiratory problems on the list. Studies show people who are overweight are at increased risk of sleep apnea and asthma, and that dropping pounds can help improve their symptoms.