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but never saw a gun in person other than police officers until I was an adult. As a result, I only associated guns with murder and war.
So, because of YOUR FEARS about guns, everyone else should have THEIRS taken away.......
I'm glad to see that you didn't even read the first sentence. Fucking moron.
I have zero desire to own a gun and even less to shoot somebody with one.
All of the gun owners I know have no desire to shoot somebody either. But if they are forced into a situation (e.g., home invasion, etc.) where they are put at risk, they are not adverse to drilling holes through an intruder.
I rarely go to gun ranges, but when I do, I've noticed there are a lot of well armed middle-aged Vietnamese. My assumption is that experiencing a complete societal breakdown (fall of Saigon) drives home the benefit of being able to protect your family. In the U.S. we had the equivalent with the Rodney King rights where the stores with Korean owners on the roofs with assault rifles didn't get looted.
The movie "Contagion" was, indirectly, really good advertising for gun ownership.
CMY
2013 Jan 10, 1:13pm
If we could raise a generation to not want to use guns, maybe we could prevent them from killing each other.
Sorry, I had a decent retort to this but I've been laughing too much to remember what it was.
As a result, I only associated guns with murder and war. Maybe we could replicate that experience to kids now and keep them from viewing guns as a tool that was used for solving every day conflict.
how about going after the gangs of thugs who kill everyday over their drug turff..
the people in the community, police and 2nd amendment backers (pro gun)
are behind that..
so .. who isnt interested in going after the gangsters who kill everyday ?
whats their excuse ?
http://wgntv.com/2013/01/09/chicago-shooting-victim-becomes-15th-homicide-of-2013/
Chicago shooting victim becomes 15th homicide of 2013
Read more at http://wgntv.com/2013/01/09/chicago-shooting-victim-becomes-15th-homicide-of-2013/#0z1qCGkgkV5eW7rR.99
Vicente
2013 Jan 10, 1:47pm
The reason is 3d printers. I've now seen two very good proposals for how guns can be printed, and shells to go with it (ammo making still requires manual work to fill the shells)
Ummm. No. The build media is fairly weak plastic. Gun barrels and upper receivers are made of metal to withstand very high pressures. Could you maybe make some nonessential part like lower receiver, grip panels, stock, etc? Sure. Key components, hell no. You'd at best use a ton of plastic to make essentially a zipgun that would be greater danger to YOU in terms of blowing up in your face. I certainly wouldn't hold anything with a plastic barrel and action and fire it, I'd hope anyone who has tested such a thing did so by remote from behind a shield.
There's an article about claims about this, and I want you to note important BULLSHIT language in it:
"....Video posted by the group on YouTube indicates the gun was built with some key parts created on a 3-D printer and fired six times before it broke.
No independent observer verified the test."
http://www.montereyherald.com/local/ci_22249478/plastic-gun-made-3d-printer-and-test-fired
Now mind you a home-built CNC mill and some steel, you could probably build a decent one no problem. But that doesn't appeal the Star Trek vision of saying "Tea, Earl Grey, hot" does it? Too much getting ones hands dirty and BUILDING THINGS.
3d printers work with metal as well. I've seen very convincing tools built already, and a generation or two of technical development will certainly complete the task. Our grandchildren will be able to print guns on demand, no doubt about it. No plastics required.
That's why we should make them not desire to do so. Right now we have millions of people fantasizing about being able to kill a home invader who will most likely just wind up killing some poor bystander in a bar fight.
Let the gun toting nut bags who are afraid of people who they'll never encounter do whatever they want, meanwhile we change the culture so that we no longer believe that manslaughter is a reasonable outcome of a domestic dispute.
You know sentences don't end with commas, right?
It's not a sentence, it's a piece of your quote.
What, now you're the grammar police too???
Like I said, you didn't read the first sentence. I have no interest in taking away your gun. I'm not afraid of firearms, buy I'm also not afraid of people who are a different race.
so .. who isnt interested in going after the gangsters who kill everyday ?
Uh, nobody? Gangs are certainly a problem. Gangs exist due to poverty, though, and as a country we aren't interested in doing what is necessary to fight poverty in an effective way.
CMY
2013 Jan 10, 3:52pm
Jesus, you're completely misaligned (or possibly mis-educated, my bet is on the latter) if you think that guns are the sole reason people kill each other.
It's happened throughout recorded history. We're animals, first and foremost; I've had a cousin killed in a bar fight that included nothing more than a pool cue. The gas chambers at Auschwitz were a pretty quiet, non-violent affair as well.
I do agree on the 3D printing though. They are doing some fabulous things with metals nowadays. You're on the right track as far as that is concerned.
Jesus, you're completely misaligned (or possibly mis-educated, my bet is on the latter) if you think that guns are the sole reason people kill each other.
Or perhaps you are drawing a very weird conclusion based on the actual content of the post. I can only assume that you simply have a rabid pro-gun stance and immediately viscerally reject anything you see that you vaguely disagree with using a set of canned contradictions.
No? Ok then. Maybe next time you actually think about what you're assuming.
It's happened throughout recorded history. We're animals, first and foremost; I've had a cousin killed in a bar fight that included nothing more than a pool cue. The gas chambers at Auschwitz were a pretty quiet, non-violent affair as well.
Cool story bro. I know a guy who got beat to death with a toilet. WTF does that have to do with trying to change our culture to one that results in fewer people getting murdered?
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I'm completely anti gun, but I've concluded that in the long run, gun control can't work.
The reason is 3d printers. I've now seen two very good proposals for how guns can be printed, and shells to go with it (ammo making still requires manual work to fill the shells)
Given that reality, I expect gun control to be about as successful as piracy control.
I think we should instead focus on making people just not want guns. Think about the PSA from childhood telling us not to smoke. Now my generation doesn't smoke.
I have zero desire to own a gun and even less to shoot somebody with one. If we could raise a generation to not want to use guns, maybe we could prevent them from killing each other. The nut jobs who are afraid of the government or just like to shoot things would still print their guns and shoot them, but most people wouldn't.
I was raised around violent movies and video games, but never saw a gun in person other than police officers until I was an adult. As a result, I only associated guns with murder and war. Maybe we could replicate that experience to kids now and keep them from viewing guns as a tool that was used for solving every day conflict.