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Bap33 says

Kennedy was a good Democrat. Reagan was a good Republican.

Saying this, and then what follows in your same comment only proves how incredibly vulnerable you are to propaganda.

Bap33 says

Todays GOP is full of RINO pukes that are career political hacks and are not any more conservative than Mike Moore. If the GOP does get razed, it will be to the good of the conservative voice in this nation. There is no room for conservatives in todays GOP.

Lord Barry is a wolf in wolf's clothing. His Chicago mob is using the law of the jungle and bully tactics, and avoiding all forms of legality. To anyone not blinded by the a haze of dope and/or perversion fueled liberalism, it is obvious.

Btw,..

Bap33 says

avoiding all forms of legality

Does the term "Iran - Contra affair" mean anything to you?

Bap33 says

Liberals only take in foster kids so they can access some free money from "program" kids. Adoption costs people money, not like foster progams. I bet you knew that.

Wow.

First off, I'm betting that those who take in foster kids are just about as likely to be conservative as liberal

But here's my main point.

Foster kids are usually older kids that are either too old for adoption (adopting parents strongly prefer to adopt infants), or in many cases their status is unclear. Such as father dies, mother is in rehab. In other words, it is sometimes a possibly temporary situation.

I bet you didn't know that.

The fact that some money is sometimes available to go with a foster child, might help some low income people to become foster parents, but it takes a worse than cynical mind to see it as usually being the primary motive.

Call it Crazy says

It's really too bad you have such reading comprehension problems...

The FBI chart I posted showed that there were over 1 million background checks in 2012, which means more guns were sold in 2012 on top of what was already in possession.

Listen, dipshit - when you use the word "more", it must be in comparison to something. To simply say "more guns were sold in 2012" makes no sense. More than WHAT? I posted actual data of gun sales over time, and you can clearly see that gun sales are lower than they were in the past.

Now I'll type this slow for you to see if you can keep up...

You type slow because you ARE slow.

So this contradicts the mantra that more guns equals more murders, because the murder rate went down in CA while gun purchases and the total amount of guns went up.

I hope I didn't type too fast for you to understand that point.

You can keep saying that as many times as you like; it doesn't make it true.

Besides which, the only number which is meaningful in analyzing the murder rate vs. how many guns are owned, is the OWNERSHIP rate. And the ownership rate is down.

Don't try to argue with him. He doesn't understand per capita measurements, and believes that once something is purchased it never changes hands. You're arguing with a brick wall.

Call it Crazy says

I guess the next thing you'll start spouting is that the FBI data is made up or not correct, right??

No, just that it's national data. Did you forget already that you were arguing about California? Not only do you cherry-pick all your data; you use data that is irrelevant to what you're talking about.

By the way, if you actually look at the data for California background checks OVER TIME, which you neglected to do, you see that the number of background checks was LOWER every year after 1999. The only 2 years it was higher were 2011 and 2012. Yet the murder rate fell considerably after peaking in 1993. The correlation you are claiming simply does not exist.

You really have no idea what's going on, do you?

marcus says

The fact that some money is sometimes available to go with a foster child,
might help some low income people to become foster parents, but it takes a worse
than cynical mind to see it as usually being the primary motive.

maybe ... or it takes real life experience. For me, it's the latter, with just a touch of the former, I am sure.

marcus says

Does the term "Iran - Contra affair" mean anything to you?

yes. I am an Ollie North fan. How would you like to compair that to the guns for mexican drug gangs?

marcus says

Saying this, and then what follows in your same comment only proves how
incredibly vulnerable you are to propaganda.

of vise versa with respect to your position, no?

edit - changed witch to with

marcus says

ROnald Reagan is a liberal in this world. Btw, he got behind an assault weapons ban.

Assault weapons are banned.. and have been banned for many many years...

.. a assault weapon is a full automatic not semi automatic weapon.
Else you would also include a Winchester in your definition.

Bap33 says

of vise versa witch respect to your position, no?

I guess in this day and age, with Fox news and MSNBC it's just totally impossible to know.

(sarcasm - I think it's possible to know)

no, you think that the leftist liberal mind is superior and in assention, where as the righty conservative mind is neanderthalistic, so the leftist mind is beyond manipulation. That is close to what you think, I think.

Bap33 says

That is close to what you think, I think

No. I have my biases.

What I think is that reality has a liberal bias. (if we use your perception of liberal)

By the way, I consider myself to be a true conservative.

Are you a conservative with respect to the Constitution of the USA, state rights, and individual liberty? If so, then we are on the same team for the most part, with my caveman nature being your only obstical. We can get past that!

I am a conservative regarding those things. I am also a conservative with regard to seeing AMerica as a melting pot, and embracing diversity as the positive that it has always been.

Also a conservative with respect to what I see as best for America economically, which is definitely not taking us back to the guilded age.

I see things like social safety nets and universal health care as steps towards being what every decent country will obviously eventually be.

Oppression and exploitation of the poor masses is not what I worry about preserving in America.

I view Eisenhower as a great American conservative. If he could see America now, he would be bothered by an entitely differnt set of issues than you are. He was FAR to the left of Obama. (using your definition of left).

He was a great republican (but to the left of what you call rhinos).

Here's one quote:

I despise people who go to the gutter on either the right or the left and hurl rocks at those in the center.

another...

We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/dwight_d_eisenhower.html#2tOXabTMpdgYzRwp.99

marcus says

I see things like social safety nets and universal health care as steps towards being what every decent country will obviously eventually be.

I support social safety nets and universal healthcare. However, they must be made available to people of all economic backgrounds alike.

If welfare is provided only to the poor, you create a chasm between classes. People need to know that the net will be there even if they work harder.

marcus says

Oppression and exploitation of the poor masses is not what I worry about preserving in America.

What you see as "oppression" and "exploitation" may actually be the real nature of human society. Equality is an illusion. Some people are always more equal than others.

The hierarchy will be here to stay.

errc says

If there was ever a woman willing to have unprotected sex with you, and you instead chose to masturbate, I don't think that act should be called murder. I would however call it stupid and pretty friggin lame.

What about STDs?

And you know what is the most expensive STD to have? Pregnancy!

Peter P says

If there was ever a woman willing to have unprotected sex with you,

Yeah, like a woman would ever have sex with any male on this blog!LOL

Call it Quits, you just ain't that bright, are you? LOL.