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I think you misunderstand: The pro-gun crowd isn't in favor of non-white people having guns. Those are the people that they want to shoot!

Now, there are the occasional David Koresh types, but most people just view them as the crazy nutbags that they are.

As a former NRA member, I am appalled by their history now that I read about it.

Back in 1968, they lobbied FOR the Gun Control Act.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/308608/?single_page=true

Vicente says

they lobbied FOR the Gun Control Act.

as would any industry look for product protection... be they fake and dangerous handbags, drugs, food, and cheap guns "midnight specials".

what is there today to prevent Chinese made counterfeit Remington sports rifles from flooding the world markets. Is that "Gun Control" ?

thomaswong.1986 says

as would any industry look for product protection... be they fake and dangerous handbags, drugs, food, and cheap guns "midnight specials".

You're off in the wees. From TFA:

Republicans in California eagerly supported increased gun control. Governor Reagan told reporters that afternoon that he saw “no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.” He called guns a “ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will.” In a later press conference, Reagan said he didn’t “know of any sportsman who leaves his home with a gun to go out into the field to hunt or for target shooting who carries that gun loaded.” The Mulford Act, he said, “would work no hardship on the honest citizen.”

Vicente says

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/308608/?single_page=true

sure .. some certainly shouldn't have guns... criminals and assassins for one ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_P._Newton

In October 1977 three Black Panthers attempted to assassinate Crystal Gray, one of the prostitutes present the day of Kathleen Smith’s murder and a key prosecution witness in Newton's upcoming trial. Unbeknownst to the assailants, they attacked the wrong house and the occupant returned fire. During the shootout one of the Panthers, Louis Johnson, was killed and the other two assailants escaped. One of the two surviving assassins, Flores Forbes, fled to Las Vegas, Nevada, with the help of Panther paramedic Nelson Malloy. Fearing that Malloy would discover the truth behind the botched assassination attempt, Newton allegedly ordered a “house cleaning”, and Malloy was shot and buried alive in the desert. Although permanently paralyzed from the waist down, Malloy recovered from the assault and told police that fellow Panthers Rollin Reid and Allen Lewis were behind his attempted murder. Newton denied any involvement or knowledge and said the events “might have been the result of overzealous party members”

Vicente says

he Mulford Act, he said, “would work no hardship on the honest citizen.”

no biggie.. not much to squawk about. Lock and load when your in-country only.

thomaswong.1986 says

sure .. some certainly shouldn't have guns

Thanks for coming out.

Dan's point stands. The "militia" is very selective, only whites are due any outrage.

Vicente says

Thanks for coming out.

certainly would include foreign nationalists..
since the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply to non- US citizens.

thomaswong.1986 says

Vicente says

Thanks for coming out.

certainly would include foreign nationalists..
since the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply to non- US citizens.

Maybe I misunderstand, but are you saying any non-white is a not a US citizen?

Kevin says

I think you misunderstand: The pro-gun crowd isn't in favor of non-white people having guns.

There's some gun control people could get behind

The same fools insist that the police and military be armed to the hilt. They are, after all, here to protect us dontchaknow!

I don't trust any nitwit whose first cry for gon control isn't disarming the peace officers. Nothing I fear more in this world than this out of control police state, and the people that ask for more of it

Vicente says

As a former NRA member, I am appalled by their history now that I read about it.

Back in 1968, they lobbied FOR the Gun Control Act.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/308608/?single_page=true

In 1968 the NRA was funded and populated by people who considered shooting a sport, not gun manufacturers and self defence fanatics.

Khaaaaaannnnn!!!!!

Vicente says

Dan's point stands. The "militia" is very selective, only whites are due any outrage.

So you're saying that Black Panthers are only a figment of our imagination?

Vicente says

Dan's point stands. The "militia" is very selective, only whites are due any outrage.

I'm not sure they even get outraged when whites are victimized by the government. There are plenty of white victims here that got no sympathy, nonetheless action, from the militia people. Christ, what would it take for these militias that allegedly are protecting our liberties to actually act?

Dan8267 says

what would it take for these militias that allegedly are protecting our liberties to actually act?

I suspect it would take an event that unfolds very, very slowly. That would allow them to keep up.

Dan8267 says

Vicente says

Dan's point stands. The "militia" is very selective, only whites are due any outrage.

I'm not sure they even get outraged when whites are victimized by the government. There are plenty of white victims here that got no sympathy, nonetheless action, from the militia people. Christ, what would it take for these militias that allegedly are protecting our liberties to actually act?

Timmy McVeigh largely destroyed the american militia movement. In another 10 years, when conservatives try to re-frame him as a hero, the movement will be renewed.