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thunderlips11 says

I can't think of a real bombing by lefties in decades, and not one against the general public. I think the last one was MOVE in Philly, and actually, the bomb was dropped on them.

You're wasting your keystrokes.

Thomas Wong is communicating through time warp, and see Reds behind every bush. Undoubtedly next he'll link it all back to Mikhail Gorbachev.

Vicente says

Thomas Wong is communicating through time warp, and see Reds behind every bush. Undoubtedly next he'll link it all back to Mikhail Gorbachev.

If it means anything to you, any attack by a anti-abortionist should be equally treated and justice handed down ... be it prison or death penalty.

But dont waste my time comparing one or two individuals with organized fanatics willing and able to carry out terrorist acts on behalf of foreign government at war with the USA and its Citizens from California to Maine to Seattle and Miami.

And today, the Weatherman co-founder Bill Avers makes no apologies for the bombing he committed decades ago.. bombings you saw this week. Perhaps he may well be the only one who will sympathize with the Boston bombers.

thomaswong.1986 says

Bill Avers makes no apologies for the bombing he committed decades ago.. bombings you saw this week.

God, wouldn't that be a great interview? What would Bill Ayers say about this bombing. He still justifies his bombings in the 60s. I am sure this Boston bomber feels just as compassion as Bill did.

CaptainShuddup says

Homeboy says

Do you think any of this would have happened to him if he were white?

Sure it would, it's not like there's NOT any reason to think a White guy would never do something like this. The Atlanta Olympics bomber, and the Oklahoma City bomber were both white after all.

Yes, that is the logic of the situation. However, the fact remains that the guy who got tackled by the crowd and questioned by the police was Arab. My point was that many Americans, and apparently the police, do not behave logically.

https://vine.co/v/bFdt5uwg6JZ

I see a white woman running away from the explosion in this video. Funny thing, though - she isn't getting tackled by anyone.

thunderlips11 says

I can't think of a real bombing by lefties in decades, and not one against the general public. I think the last one was MOVE in Philly, and actually, the bomb was dropped on them.

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/nov/20/local/me-guzzler20

thomaswong.1986 says

are you an apologist for the left..or just in denial ?

Let's try this again:

thunderlips11 says

I can't think of a real bombing by lefties in decades

The Weathermen and the May 19th Org haven't been active in decades. You tried to be clever by removing the dates and only giving the Month and Date. Those actions were all from 1970, the year the Beatles were still together. The last action on your link was 1987. That was 25+ years ago when episodes of ALF were still being produced and Bon Jovi was a hot new band.

You will also notice the Weathermen didn't bomb the Mr. Olympia Contest, or the Olympic Swim Trials or anything else that attracts a general audience. Their targets are all government buildings, particularly military ones.

Vicente says

Thomas Wong is communicating through time warp, and see Reds behind every bush. Undoubtedly next he'll link it all back to Mikhail Gorbachev.

Ha, you're probably right. You'd think the OKC Bombing never happened.

Homeboy says

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/nov/20/local/me-guzzler20

How many people did he kill? Did he firebomb a gathering of the general public?

I don't think that property crimes are the same as bombing a random group of people at a non-political, non-military event.

thunderlips11 says

I can't think of a real bombing by lefties in decades, and not one against the general public. I think the last one was MOVE in Philly, and actually, the bomb was dropped on them.

I remember that bombing. That bastard Wilson Goode still has not been brought to justice. He's a real terrorist and he murdered six adults and five children. And since there are no statue of limitations on murder, he should be brought to justice. That fact that he remains free demonstrates just how full of bullshit our legal system is.

Goode should be behind bars. Bradley Manning should not.

Dan8267 says

Goode should be behind bars. Bradley Manning should not.

Right on. Manning is a hero. Also believe scores of people were left homeless by the bombing. As you say, Goode was never charged, which is just one more brick in the wall every time authority figures pontificate about the rule of law.

Breaking: They have the suspect on tape; AP reports arrest imminent.

Edit: 4Chan members collect video and photos of attendees; compare photographs for clues. Via infowars:
http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/

I don't like the guy in the red shirt under blue jacket holding the bag on his forearm rather than on his back. What do you think?

Suspect now in custody, according to AP and ABC News...

thunderlips11 says

http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/

That's kinda scary actually, looking at all these amateurs picking apart photos. Where did they get all the photos anyhow?

thunderlips11 says

How many people did he kill? Did he firebomb a gathering of the general public?

I don't think that property crimes are the same as bombing a random group of people at a non-political, non-military event.

You said you couldn't think of a real leftist bombing in decades. I provided one. I don't recall saying it was exactly the same as the Boston Marathon bombing.

Vicente says

That's kinda scary actually, looking at all these amateurs picking apart photos. Where did they get all the photos anyhow?

Probably from flickr, etc. Looks like they also screenshoted TV footage of camera footage.

Homeboy says

You said you couldn't think of a real leftist bombing in decades.

I think this is quibbling. I think it's pretty obvious what I mean by "Real", ie not a vegetarian/animal rights turd setting off a stink bomb at a research lab.

Here's some right wing terrorist attacks and attempted attacks, from 1995 to the end of 2012. 14 of them just in the past two years. Mostly small groups of militia/white supremacists. I'm curious to see if there are a similar number, or more, left wing ones.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

Vicente says

thunderlips11 says

http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/

That's kinda scary actually, looking at all these amateurs picking apart photos. Where did they get all the photos anyhow?

I thought it a little scary to realize how many times your image is captured when in public. That it was the work of "amateurs" didn't alarm me, what is the alternative, "professionals"? Not like they are any more trustworthy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fox-pulls-family-guy-episode-referring-to-deaths-at-boston-marathon-no-plans-to-re-air/2013/04/16/87620160-a6e3-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_story.html

Fox pulls ‘Family Guy’ episode referring to deaths at Boston Marathon

NEW YORK — Fox has pulled from websites a recent episode of “Family Guy” that depicts mass deaths at the Boston Marathon, and has no immediate plans to air it again.

Fox spokeswoman Gaude Paez said Tuesday the episode has been removed from Fox.com and Hulu.com.

In the episode, protagonist Peter Griffin is asked by sports announcer Bob Costas about his performance at the marathon. A flashback shows Peter mowing down runners with his car.

“I’ll tell ya, Bob, I just got in my car and drove it,” Griffin says. “And when there was a guy in my way, I killed him.”

Later, Peter befriends a terrorist who, unbeknownst to him, is plotting to blow up a bridge. When Peter dials a cellphone the friend has given him, explosions and screams are heard. On some websites, an edited clip has been circulating that fuses the two scenes, making it seem — incorrectly — as if the explosion was at the marathon. Some commenters have implied that the show “predicted” the bombings.

“Family Guy” creator Seth MacFarlane took to Twitter on Tuesday to vent anger over the edited clip and offer condolences to victims of Monday’s bombings at the marathon.

“The edited ‘Family Guy’ clip currently circulating is abhorrent,” MacFarlane tweeted. “The event was a crime and a tragedy, and my thoughts are with the victims.”

http://www.youtube.com/embed/YGk2sGpguKM

thunderlips11 says

I think this is quibbling. I think it's pretty obvious what I mean by "Real", ie not a vegetarian/animal rights turd setting off a stink bomb at a research lab.

It wasn't a "stink bomb", moron. Yeah, something is pretty obvious, but not what you think. I'm a liberal too, but I don't see what purpose it serves to make everything about partisanship.

Homeboy says

It wasn't a "stink bomb", moron. Yeah, something is pretty obvious, but not what you think. I'm a liberal too, but I don't see what purpose it serves to make everything about partisanship.

Sorry dude, one doctor being shot to me counts more than 10,000 hummers going up in smoke.

It's not about partisanship, it's about reality. The reality is, despite nobody being killed by left-wing extremists in 30+ years, there's a false equivalency about left wing terror and right wing terror in the USA being equally likely.

Fiddlesticks! The latter kills a shitload more people, and the number of plots and attacks are increasing over time. The former hardly exists, and confines itself to property damage.

It's like being equally concerned about preventing horse and buggy accidents versus car accidents in these days. The former is so rare (and relatively underpowered where it does exist), it doesn't merit anywhere near the concern of the latter.

It ain't 1970 no more. Now all the violent radicals are on the (religious) right.

BTW, Islamic terrorists are also right wingers, since they want to impose by force a fundamentalist, austere version of Islam.

thunderlips11 says

http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/

Now CNN sez they are looking for a guy with a description that matches none of the pictured InfoWars matches:

" The sources identified the person as a man wearing a white baseball cap. One of the sources added that the cap was on backwards and the man was also wearing a light-colored hooded sweatshirt and a black jacket. The second source said investigators have not identified this person."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/boston-blasts/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Here's one

Same guy as here or different?

Spooky shit, all these pics getting looked at by people all over the net.

thunderlips11 says

Note that in both pictures the guy is standing next to Mr. Bright Blue Jacket.

No light colored hoodie however.

*shrug*

Vicente says

No light colored hoodie however.

Maybe they have some different video and pics than the ones out there.

thomaswong.1986 says

The Islamist are neither... once again your in denial and self justification.

thunderlips11 says

thomaswong.1986 says

The Islamist are neither... once again your in denial and self justification.

Al qaeda is neither right or left.. but if you want to look back into history and look at Muslim Terrorist, and sponsored states, being left wing with ties to the former Soviet Union ...

Islamic socialism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_socialism

slamic socialism is a term coined by various Muslim leaders to describe a more spiritual form of socialism. Muslim socialists believe that the teachings of the Qur'an and Muhammad — especially zakāt — are compatible with principles of economic and social equality. They draw inspiration from the early Medinan welfare state established by Muhammad. Muslim socialists are generally not as socially liberal as their western counterparts. Like Christian democrats, Muslim socialists found their roots in anti-imperialism. Muslim socialist leaders believe in democracy and the derivation of legitimacy from the public, as opposed to Islamic religious texts or claims to be Muhammad's successors.

any of these names ring a bell...

Gamal Abdel Nasser
Jamal al-Din Afghani, one of the founders of Islamic modernism
Rafi Ahmed Kidwai, Indian politician and cabinet minister from 1947–1954
Jalal Al-e Ahmad, Iranian social and political critic
Tan Malaka, Indonesian Communist of Minangkabau descent and philosopher of dialectical materialism
Agus Salim, Indonesian hero, patron of Jong Islamienten Bond
Sjafruddin Prawiranegara, Masyumi politician
Sultan Ghaliev, the Muslim National Communist
Sukarno, first President of Indonesia
Ali Shariati
Shamsiah Fakeh, Malaysian feminist and guerilla fighter
Siad Barre, former from President of Somalia;1969-1991. Turned his back to communism in 1978 after the betrayal of the Soviet Union.
Zulfikar Ali Bhutto former PM and President and the only Civil Chief Martial Law Administrator of Pakistan.
Chaudhry Rehmat Ali
Yasser Arafat
Ahmed Jibril
Mohammed Iqbal
Faiz Ahmed Faiz
Habib Jalib
Ibn-e-Insha
Sadat Hassan Manto
Hanif Ramay
Muammar Gaddafi
Massoud Rajavi
Ismail Mahmood, founder of Islamic pantheism
Muhammad Tahir ul-Qadri, founder of the Pakistan Awami Tehrik

God that Infowars thread is full of DERP. One choice comment:

" First of all they sank the Titanic on April 15, 1912. So we know that this is a significant date in history, since the ship was switched with its sister ship for insurance for J.P. Morgan, that’s another story. The Boston Bombings was a Government operation in response to patriots of the USA winning the debate on gun control a few weeks ago."

However those who are still fighting the 80's Cold War have to be in the running.

Don't forget about the Occupy Cleveland bombers.

They planted what they thought were live bricks of C-4 underneath a well-traveled bridge connecting two suburban Ohio communities and repeatedly tried to detonate them.

I guess they get a pass since they weren't successful?

thunderlips11 says

Sorry dude, one doctor being shot to me counts more than 10,000 hummers going up in smoke.

Strawman.

What part of, "I don't recall saying it was exactly the same as the Boston Marathon bombing" didn't you understand, dipshit?

If you don't want a reply to your statement, "I can't think of a real bombing by lefties in decades", then don't fucking write it. Or maybe we were supposed to read your mind and know that "real" is code for "a doctor gets shot". WTF? Have fun arguing with your made up version of what I wrote. I guess it's o.k. to have imaginary friends.

I see a white woman running away from the explosion in this video. Funny thing, though - she isn't getting tackled by anyone.

White women haven't blown anything up in a while. Arabs blow shit up all the time.

Moderate Infidel says

I see a white woman running away from the explosion in this video. Funny thing, though - she isn't getting tackled by anyone.

White women haven't blown anything up in a while. Arabs blow shit up all the time.

Thank you for unwittingly proving my point.

as already shown on Pnet above ...

Liberals Are Already Blaming Boston Marathon Bombing On Conservatives

ww.rightwingnews.com/crime/liberals-are-already-blaming-boston-marathon-bombing-on-conservatives/

After national tragedies, liberals almost inevitably come out of the woodwork looking for ways to blame the whole thing on conservatives. Sadly, the Boston Marathon bombing has been no exception to that rule. Even though at present, there is absolutely nothing that ties the Boston Marathon bombing to conservatives, there are still Left-Wingers still trying to blame these attacks on the Right.

CNN’s national security analyst Peter Bergen suggested more than once that a, “right-wing extremist group” could be behind the attacks.

MSNBC’s Chris Matthews falsely claimed that, “Normally domestic terrorists, people, tend to be on the far right.”

New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof tweeted, “Explosion is a reminder that ATF needs a director. Shame on Senate Republicans for blocking apptment.”

And of course, we can’t forget Michael Moore. "2+2= "

Some wingnuts seem to think it must be liberal bombers, but that is not representative of all conservatives.

Liberals are not by and large leaping to lynch anyone, any more than other Americans. Go crap on someone else's thread pal.

Dude, your own Wiki cut and paste quote destroys your own argument:
thomaswong.1986 says

Muslim socialist leaders believe in democracy and the derivation of legitimacy from the public, as opposed to Islamic religious texts or claims to be Muhammad's successors.

Whereas the Muslim Brotherhood, AQ, and other Muslim Fundamentalists believe government derives it's power from, and must serve, the Koran, that there is no separation of Islam and the State, no secularism, only the House of Peace.

The Muslim Brotherhood/AQ is a right wing organization just like the Christian Fundamentalist Army of God is a right wing organization:
http://www.armyofgod.com/

Jesus, they even have swords and quotes all over their pages, just like whackadoodle Fundy Muslim sites.

thomaswong.1986 says

any of these names ring a bell...

Yep. And none of these guys have anything to do with 9/11 or Islamic Terrorism generally.

I don't recall Nasser having people hijack planes and fly them into buildings. Nor Sukarno, that's ridiculous. Ali Shariati was an academic who never committed or endorsed terrorism, and died in exile. Gadafyi was OVERTHROWN by Muslim Brotherhood/AQ Types. Those are just the ones I noticed at first blush.

This is a stretch even Plastic Man can't pull off. I'd love to see how Nasser or Sukarno can be described as a fundamentalist Muslim on the order of Mohammed Atta or K.S. Mohammed.

Keep trying to fit square pegs into round holes to justify your binary worldview.

Homeboy says

If you don't want a reply to your statement, "I can't think of a real bombing by lefties in decades", then don't fucking write it. Or maybe we were supposed to read your mind and know that "real" is code for "a doctor gets shot". WTF? Have fun arguing with your made up version of what I wrote. I guess it's o.k. to have imaginary friends.

Whatever dude. I think it was very clear from context I was talking about actual explosive bombings, not vandalism and property damage. The word "Real" there modifies the word "bombing". In fact, from the get go, the Hummer Burnings were described as "Arson".

Also, the ELF threw molotov cocktails. They did not make IEDs, use C-4, etc. To me, and I think first in the minds of most people, bombing needs a explosive with a timer or other detonation device. Not a rag stuffed bottle full of oil that has to be thrown and broken to spread a fire - that's not explosive.

To contrast, the Weathermen - and the Boston Bomber, and the Atlanta Bombing - used actual explosives.

In fact, the FBI itself referred to it as an Arson Spree, not a "Bombing".
http://www.mindfully.org/Heritage/2003/ELF-FBI-$2_5M-SUVs23aug03.htm

Most of the Media Coverage used the same terms:
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2009/09/hummer_burners_conviction_over.php

Oh, and the guy was convicted of Arson and sentenced to eight years.

OK, the speculation in this thread and the Internet has gotten ridiculous. For all we know that "bottle of bb balls" could be a bottle of orange juice.

Let's all take a break from the drama, go outside to smell the fresh air, and stop obsessing over whoduntit. There are thousands of professionals looking into this case right now using the most advance forensics available. Chill out and wait for them to find the real answers.

tdr says

Don't forget about the Occupy Cleveland bombers.

Yay! Finally, a semi-recent terrorist attempt that probably would have resulted in deaths and can be blamed on left-wing ideals. And involved what they thought were explosives.

Still, no deaths from left terror in the US in decades. Many deaths just in the past couple of years from right terror, not including Islamic conservative terror, here in the USA. And the number of right wing plots carried out or foiled is exponentially larger than those on the left.

Vicente says

God that Infowars thread is full of DERP. One choice comment:

And the rage of the right wing resulted in the dismantling of a group studying far-right extremism due to Congressional Pressure.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/16/us/domestic-terrorism

The feds are going to televise the tape of the bombers. That must mean they haven't a clue where these guys are. It would be great if the public could identify these depraved individuals and "we" as a nation take them down. That would be great for healing of the nation. Whoot-whoot!

Dan8267 says

OK, the speculation in this thread and the Internet has gotten ridiculous. For all we know that "bottle of bb balls" could be a bottle of orange juice.

Let's all take a break from the drama, go outside to smell the fresh air, and stop obsessing over whoduntit. There are thousands of professionals looking into this case right now using the most advance forensics available. Chill out and wait for them to find the real answers.

Evidently these 2 guys have already been cleared.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/teen-boston-marathon-bomber/story?id=18990057#.UXBdAMqRd7P

Just watched live NBC coverage of FBI press conference.

2 males identified, definitely not the ones above, photos to be posted on fbi.gov.

No one noticed these guys. They were too busy looking at their cellphones!