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The tea party (taxed enough already) has more in common with the outrage that sparked OWS than is commonly acknowledges by the lamestream media. Both groups are outraged at the bailouts and spending taxpayer money to backstop reckless actions by banksters and Wall Street fatcats.

You peasants always fail at everything...

What's new that I haven't heard?

David Losh says

Dan8267 says

The Tea Party is organized and has an agenda,

Really? Disrupting Congress is an agenda?

In all seriousness, yes. Disrupting Congress, especially during a session when the other party is the majority and has the White House, is most certainly a political agenda.

Disrupting Congress worked for Republicans during the Carter administration and it got them Reagan. Disrupting Congress has worked well for the Republicans during the Obama administration as well. It has prevented real health care reform, closing tax loopholes, and raising taxes on the rich, all of which are Tea Party issues.

Yes, the Tea Party has an agenda. Yes, that agenda includes disrupting Congress while the Democrats hold the majority and the White House. Yes, that agenda includes other things like protecting the rich. And yes, the Tea Party is accomplishing its agenda despite huge popular opposition to all their ideas.

It doesn't matter that the Tea Party is composed of morons. What matters is that they are highly vocal, highly organized, highly unified morons, and that is what makes them dangerous. It would be foolish to underestimate the damage they can do. On the bright side, the extremist positions of the Tea Party is nailing the coffin of the Republican Party. They are the death rattle of the GOP.

David Losh says

upisdown
says

You're killing me.

You're ignorant.

I wouldn't say that I'm ignorant of the huge societal progress of the OWS movement, because there weren't any.

David Losh says

Here we had one message of the 99% that are The People. It helped get an
African American elected President of the United States of America. We have pot
shops on a lot of corners, we have gay marriage, gay rights, a powerful African
American Community. It's all because we are the 99%.

Yea, THAT'S WHO elected Obama and WHY. Romney just being Romney, had absolutely nothing to do with it. LOL.

Dan8267 says

Yes, the Tea Party has an agenda. Yes, that agenda includes disrupting
Congress while the Democrats hold the majority and the White House. Yes, that
agenda includes other things like protecting the rich. And yes, the Tea Party is
accomplishing its agenda despite huge popular opposition to all their ideas.

It doesn't matter that the Tea Party is composed of morons. What matters is
that they are highly vocal, highly organized, highly unified morons, and that is
what makes them dangerous. It would be foolish to underestimate the damage they
can do. On the bright side, the extremist positions of the Tea Party is nailing
the coffin of the Republican Party. They are the death rattle of the GOP

They want the staus quo of times past, and that doesn't include a black president, and that's it. But their organization and unity is funded by the same old mechanisms of the republican party. It's not very hard or creative to amp up the yocals in regards to their fear or hatred.

And the tea party is backed with tons of cash from a variety of Republican and Conservative Activist Groups, Foundations, etc.

OWS? Not so much.

Rin says

who would I have guessed that my forum moniker, RIN, would be a part of history :-)

Ha! Didn't notice that until you pointed it out. Good job with the mutiny!

upisdown says

I wouldn't say that I'm ignorant of the huge societal progress of the OWS movement, because there weren't any.

You should read more about political movements, and the accomplishments of small things, like the Black Panther Party which you dismissed.

Like I said Occupy Wall Street was an extension of a more extreme set of protests in Madrid Spain. The hangers on are irrelevant.

It's like the peace, and love idiots of the 1960s, they did nothing, but they did present a message of revolution.

Dan8267 says

What matters is that they are highly vocal, highly organized, highly unified morons, and that is what makes them dangerous.

I go along with that. They are also presenting a message of fiscal responsibility that seems to be taking hold.

David Losh says

I go along with that. They are also presenting a message of fiscal responsibility that seems to be taking hold.

If the Tea Party gave a rat's ass about fiscal responsibility, they would be for cutting warfare spending by 90%. Instead they are for increasing warfare spending.

We had to spend a lot on warfare during the Cold War in order to drive the Soviet Union into bankruptcy. Well, job done. Once the Soviet threat was eliminated, any rational person would cut warfare spending dramatically. But that's not what happened.

Greedy corporations and government teat suckers didn't want their revenue and cushy government jobs to go away. As a result, we kept increasing warfare spending every year. In order to justify this non-sense, the war industry had to invent new bad guys, and in order to do that, they had to make the world a much less safe place.

Yet, the Tea Party still wants more government waste on unnecessary wars that hurt our national security. The Tea Party is not, and has never been, fiscally responsible by any sane definition.

Unless Warfare spending is cut at least 90%, our country will collapse for the exact same reason the Soviet Union did, utter bankruptcy and economic failure.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

If change is to come to America, it can only arrive at our shore after all the bankers' faces are eaten live and wriggling from their skulls and their empty eyes skull fucked in the name of Freedom.

Are you with me, America?

Sorry, my dick is too big to fit into the beady little eye sockets of bankers. Perhaps another orifice?

Dan8267 says

The Tea Party is not, and has never been, fiscally responsible by any sane definition.

It's like the OWS movement, the movement was transitory, but the message got heard.

I agree about the military, the military agrees about the military budget.

When the Tea Party and Occupy found they had a lot of common ground, the oligarchy started supporting homo-pedo as a way to divide them again, and it worked.

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Tea Party became MAGA.

Occupy Wall Street became AntiFa, Bend the Arc, and DEI hires for corporate America (ranging from Lockheed Martin to JP Morgan) besides the typical career path like campaign staff for RFK junior and Birdbrain Biden.

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https://barsoom.substack.com/p/political-conflict-in-the-age-of

Benz doesn’t mention it, but Occupy Wall Street was probably the establishment’s first ‘oh shit’ moment regarding the politically disruptive potential of social media. It came out of nowhere, within no time at all it was everywhere, and it brought together a broad spectrum of malcontents across traditional ideological boundaries. Occupy is left-coded now, so people forget that in its gestational phase tankies and anarcho-syndicalists were marching alongside End-the-Fed Ron Paulists and techno-libertarians, all of them united against the extractive criminality of Wall Street and its cozy, too-big-to-fail relationship with FedGov. The Regime put the uprising down in short order, and then opportunistically hijacked the movement’s cultural momentum to inject Woke into the everyone’s veins. That said, it should not be ruled out that Occupy was not spontaneous: it’s possible that it was a 5GW op from the beginning, intended to harness popular outrage against the bailouts following the real estate implosions, and direct it towards popularization of the race communism that took over the West over the past decade.

MisdemeanorRebel says

Yep. Basically Mykeru's law. The moment the public saw pictures of camps dominated by Drum circles, Anarcho-Feminist Teach Ins, Hackey Sack kicking, and signs supporting the Revolutionary Committee for the Spartacus League, they lost all interest.

That's why the "news" media showed those pictures, exclusively.

If they didn't exist naturally, they would have been hired by the intelligence agencies for photo shoots of them being there. Every movement is infiltrated and our "news" system is part of that infiltration.

Don't you realize our media is just propaganda? "Donald Trump is a threat to our democracy!" "300,000 dead from coronavirus, stay home and stay safe. Get your vaccine". "Putin invaded Ukraine for no reason at all" "Assad is gassing his own people" Qaddafi is about to cause a humanitarian crisis". "Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation".

It's been this way forever. They tried to stop the anti-war movement of Vietnam by associating it with a bunch of stinking, drug addled hippies. They weren't trying to help, but sentiment against that stupid war was so large, it was embraced instead. Nobody really liked the hippies, saw them as stupid worthless kids, mostly low level criminals and scum - still the war was worse.