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I'm not sure if you realize this, but Honolulu is paradise...unlike Detroit... I don't think they'll have a revenue problem that they can't deal with.

Honolulu is built up for these days of Cheap Oil, when folks can reliably and safely get to anywhere in the planet within a day for no more than the price of a couple of steers. The Bargain of the milleniums.

Peak Oil will be a great opportunity for Mainlanders but nothing beats the energy density for Jet-Setting like cheap kerosene.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

The place is fucked.

The yams will be a little tastier, though.

If the tropical fruit you get here vs HI is any indicator, then I agree.

Have a nutritious yam on me tonight.

puhim says

Will Honolulu be next Detroit?

What, are they electing Obama Governor when his term is up?

theoakman says

I'm not sure if you realize this, but Honolulu is paradise.

The place can be simultaneously a paradise and a shithole. There are plenty of Caribbean and Pacific islands to prove the point.

Straw Man says

theoakman says

I'm not sure if you realize this, but Honolulu is paradise.

The place can be simultaneously a paradise and a shithole. There are plenty of Caribbean and Pacific islands to prove the point.

I believe that Oakland, Santa Ana, and Compton also prove this. So much depends on the neighbors ...

Straw Man says

theoakman says

I'm not sure if you realize this, but Honolulu is paradise.

The place can be simultaneously a paradise and a shithole. There are plenty of Caribbean and Pacific islands to prove the point.

Honalulu...doubtful. There are a few million American and Japanese tourists willing to go there and spend their money. Detroit? Not so much.

I'm expecting CA to be the next Detroit. Which saddens me, because I live in CA. Billions of underfunded pensions in a system where politicians only promise more and more to the unions every year even when these promises are not sustainable. Taxes are high through the roof, but unions don't care as long as they can get their freebiitis going.

Unions, just like welfare queens, tend to be like parasites, they cannibalize the society and leave it high and dry when it's all empty.

theoakman says

Honalulu...doubtful. There are a few million American and Japanese tourists willing to go there and spend their money.

.... until there is none. There were plenty of people willing to live, pay taxes and spend money in Detroit too. With enough shitty governance any paradise can be made into a shithole. Look at Haiti: they have weather and beaches, how come millions of American tourists don't flock there as they used to in the first part of 20th century?

Straw Man says

theoakman says

Honalulu...doubtful. There are a few million American and Japanese tourists willing to go there and spend their money.

.... until there is none. There were plenty of people willing to live, pay taxes and spend money in Detroit too. With enough shitty governance any paradise can be made into a shithole. Look at Haiti: they have weather and beaches, how come millions of American tourists don't flock there as they used to in the first part of 20th century?

Did you really just compare Haiti to Hawaii?

I've heard that Trinidad is the "Cleveland of the Carribean" .... LA, despite the beautiful weather and beachs, is a place I'll probably won't visit again, and definitely wouldn't want to call it my home.