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Heraclitusstudent says

If you think the constitution should be disregarded whenever it's convenient for the government, then why have a constitution at all? I suggest you go live in China if you like 'benevolent' dictatorships

The constitution does not cover foreigners. we can spy on them as much as we like.

Your out of touch of what is happening.. the NSA/Snowden is no more than the

distraction of Chinese move to control the GLOBAL internet and telecom activity..

and like the dumb shit you sit there worried about your rights being violated..

Report: Chinese PLA Access 80% of “World’s Communications”

Read more: http://defensetech.org/2012/07/16/report-chinese-access-80-of-worlds-communications/#ixzz2ewLuaCcv
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China has found a backdoor to access 80 percent of the “world’s communications” to include information passed through the internet and sensitive infrastructure databases, writes a former senior security analyst for the Pentagon.

F. Michael Maloof, who now writes for WND, cites Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd and ZTE Corporation as the companies the Chinese government and People Liberation Army can use to gain access to this information via commercial networks installed by each Chinese electronic manufacturer.

“The two companies give the Chinese remote electronic “backdoor” access through the equipment they have installed in telecommunications networks in 140 countries. The Chinese companies service 45 of the world’s 50 largest telecom operators,” Maloof writes.

He goes further to say the Chinese are working to access the remaining 20 percent. Individuals and companies who communicate over their “virtual private networks” or VPNs are especially susceptible. Sources have told Maloof those networks are leaking like a “sieve” to Chinese data collectors, especially those that connect to companies based in places like Mexico.

Read more: http://defensetech.org/2012/07/16/report-chinese-access-80-of-worlds-communications/#ixzz2ewLjpCFr
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Heraclitusstudent says

I suggest you go live in China if you like 'benevolent' dictatorships.

suggest that to Dan.. he seems to favor bashing the USA for his dictators back home.

Heraclitusstudent says

I suggest you go live in China if you like 'benevolent' dictatorships.

China is hardly benevolent. It's human rights abuse is atrocious. In fact, many of us have called on trade with China being linked to human rights, not that that's going to happen.

thomaswong.1986 says

can you figure out who is american and who is not

Which is exactly why the Fourth Amendment takes president over laws allowing spying on other nations. Not that spying on our allies is a smart thing to do. We risk losing those allies, and they are far more important than any information we could obtain by pissing them off.

thomaswong.1986 says

The constitution does not cover foreigners.

The Constitution does not "cover people". The Constitution places limitations on the legal powers of the government.

thomaswong.1986 says

China has found a backdoor to access 80 percent of the “world’s communications” to include information passed through the internet and sensitive infrastructure databases, writes a former senior security analyst for the Pentagon.

The is an obvious affect of outsourcing IT to China. I've said many times that the country that builds and maintains the information infrastructure will be the economic and political powerhouse of the 21st century.

thomaswong.1986 says

Heraclitusstudent says

I suggest you go live in China if you like 'benevolent' dictatorships.

suggest that to Dan.. he seems to favor bashing the USA for his dictators back home.

I favor bashing dictators anywhere in the world. You just bitch and moan when I bash the ones in the U.S.

thomaswong.1986 says

whats the point when they are sabotaging our designs and creating backdoors...

The US Government mandates - not optional - that US manufacturers include backdoors for law enforcement (and the NSA). I don't doubt that the Chinese are sneaking in backdoors via the subcontractor process.

So instead of just having one set of backdoors, we now have multiple backdoors installed, not just in software but also hardware, by *multiple* countries. Sounds safe and secure. Let me login to my bank account... I'm sure no Russian Hacker would ever find a way to exploit them, right?

If the NSA broke SSL, you think the Russians and Chinese haven't? The solution is more robust encryption for Americans, not less. The government should even encourage widespread encryption by Americans (they only do so for US Companies; they don't want Joe Average encrypting anything).

A bad guy encrypts something? Then have LEOs charge his ass for just about anything and produce a warrant that he turn over his passwords. If he doesn't, he sits in the slammer for contempt of court until he does. While he's in jail, he can't do anything terrorist-y, no?

thomaswong.1986 says

the NSA/Snowden is no more than the

distraction of Chinese move to control the GLOBAL internet and telecom activity..

Yep, and it's mighty odd the US isn't insisting it's chief collab--- er, ally - not turn over it's basic internet infrastructure to a PLA-founded corporation.

thomaswong.1986 says

Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd

You realize that GCHQ, which wants to spy (and does) on every British Citizen, just gave Huawei THE contract to administer the most important UK internet infrastructure, right?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/13/huawei_sanqi_li_says_no_national_security_threat/

Sometimes Alex Jones makes sense, governments make threats about how the Chinese and the Muslims are out to get everybody, so we have to give up our right to privacy, then turn around and give important infrastructure to Chicom and Wahabi-allied businesses like Huawei and Dubai Ports World.

Of course, Jones is wrong because money, as always, is more important than security. The government appears stupid because they only harass the poor and not the rich and powerful whom it works for. We hear about how important the TSA is, Customs is handling record imports with no exponential expansions of staff over the past two decades, when imports and the trade deficit were a tiny fraction of what they are now. Less than 1% of containers are inspected at all.

Can't inconvenience Walmart, but taking off our shoes for the one-hour domestic connecting flight is oh-so-very Serious and demands massive staffing and expenditure on MIC Machines and MIC-provided training.

Speaking of "Trusted Computing", the goddamn secure boot in UEFI won't let me put LINUX MINT on my new desktop. I'm going to get a CD-Drive and try to live boot it. No Live Boot USB works, either, and the manual says only Windows OS is supported on the motherboard, not that that means anything.