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Its a typical reaction- stigmatize your opponents, stigmatize certain points of view -make everything that happens about YOUR issue. Politics 101 on all sides.

Of course the president is going to politicize everything- he is a politician and his job is to make sure his message resonates with those he is appealing too.

Even Paul Krugman in his Keynesian zeal couldnt resist getting in his plug for economic stimulus just three days after 9/11
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/14/opinion/reckonings-after-the-horror.html

smaulgld says

Even Paul Krugman in his Keynesian zeal couldnt resist getting in his plug for economic stimulus just three days after 9/11

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/14/opinion/reckonings-after-the-horror.html

It seems almost in bad taste to talk about dollars and cents after an act of mass murder. Nonetheless, we must ask about the economic aftershocks from Tuesday's horror.

I got laid off from an engineering job 2 months after 9/11. The fuckers had the nerve to cite 9/11 in my pink slip letter as a driving force to the tanking economy.

JH says

I got laid off from an engineering job 2 months after 9/11. The fuckers had the nerve to cite 9/11 in my pink slip letter as a driving force to the tanking economy.

Yep companies blamed 9/11 a lot back when in many instances it was their own fault but 9/11 was convenient to blame

smaulgld says

Politics 101 on all sides.

To support your point...

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, one of the strongest proponents of a ban on assault weapons like the AR-15 that suspected shooter and military contractor Aaron Alexis is believed to have used, issued a statement Monday asking "When will enough be enough?"

"Congress must stop shirking its responsibility and resume a thoughtful debate on gun violence in this country. We must do more to stop this endless loss of life," the California Democrat said in the statement.

Read: Death by Gun Control. Oh I forgot, that might interfere with the liberal agenda. Its not about guns, nor safety, its about control.

Both sides act really stupid sometimes. Politicizing tragedy is a sign of failure of morality within a group.

The NSA can and does monitor every single communication we make from phone calls, to chat messages, to email, to Skyping. If the NSA can be that intrusive on my life to prevent "terrorism" than the NSA can also keep a national gun registry for the same damn reason.

My right to government not having a back door into my mobile computer has higher precedence than your right to own a gun anonymously. If you want privacy in gun ownership and trades, then I get privacy in communication first. There's a reason the First Amendment is first and the Second is second.

If it makes you feel better, I'm willing to get a smart phone / gun hybrid. That way you guys will be against the NSA tracking it.

Dan8267 says

My right to government not having a back door into my mobile computer has higher precedence than your right to own a gun anonymously. If you want privacy in gun ownership and trades, then I get privacy in communication first. There's a reason the First Amendment is first and the Second is second.

Good point but in many arguments we often provide a false one or the other choice, when perhaps both can coexist.

smaulgld says

Good point but in many arguments we often provide a false one or the other choice, when perhaps both can coexist.I

Of course, the right to privacy in both cases is not mutually exclusive. However, it is ridiculous to argue that there should not be a national gun registry while letting the NSA violate basic communication privacy so flagrantly.

Dan8267 says

If the NSA can be that intrusive on my life to prevent "terrorism" than the NSA can also keep a national gun registry

I'm pretty sure it already does.

PS. It's good that libs can finally relate to what gun owners have been feeling for a long time. ;)

JH says

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, one of the strongest proponents of a ban on assault weapons like the AR-15 that suspected shooter and military contractor Aaron Alexis is believed to have used, issued a statement Monday asking "When will enough be enough?"

Except he didn't use any fucking AR-15. The fascist bitch was in such a hurry to commence her favorite dance on fresh graves she couldn't wait for facts.

Dan8267 says

Of course, the right to privacy in both cases is not mutually exclusive. However, it is ridiculous to argue that there should not be a national gun registry while letting the NSA violate basic communication privacy so flagrantly.

Correct- they should not argue for one and not the other but the counter argument should not be to argue for one and not the other!

I'm going gun toting rogue.

All that matters is that he was able to use his 2nd Amendment Right to purchase an "Arms". Everything else is just collateral damage.

2nd Amendment trumps everything.

JH says

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, one of the strongest proponents of a ban on assault
weapons like the AR-15 that suspected shooter and military contractor Aaron
Alexis is believed to have used, issued a statement Monday asking "When will
enough be enough?"

Fienstein the champion of the NSA wants to ban the common man/populace from having guns-coincidence??

Straw Man says

PS. It's good that libs can finally relate to what gun owners have been feeling for a long time. ;)

Real Americans have always been rebels. Yet for all their talk, gun fans have never shown any rebel streak. They are the most willing to give up all other liberties except guns to the government. If gun fans were logical, they'd wholeheartedly support Edward Snowden for revealing what the NSA is doing instead of calling him a traitor.

He was being treated for PTSD so he, like all the other mass shooters, was likely trippin' on, or coming off, of some psychotropic drug or other.
When is Big Pharma and "medicated America" going to get some of the blame. The corrupted crone Feinstein would never acknowledge that link

HEY YOU says

I'm going gun toting rogue.

All that matters is that he was able to use his 2nd Amendment Right to purchase an "Arms". Everything else is just collateral damage.

2nd Amendment trumps everything.

Right you can argue that while 1st comes before 2nd, two is bigger than one!

Dan8267 says

Straw Man says

PS. It's good that libs can finally relate to what gun owners have been feeling for a long time. ;)

Real Americans have always been rebels. Yet for all their talk, gun fans have never shown any rebel streak. They are the most willing to give up all other liberties except guns to the government. If gun fans were logical, they'd wholeheartedly support Edward Snowden for revealing what the NSA is doing instead of calling him a traitor.

That is a broad generalization but in some ways a valid criticism of some conservatives who argue against big government but are more than happy to use big government to fight foreign wars and the drug war

What a load of shit...
There exists a ton of anti-government militias.
And no matter what you say, they ARE Rebels...

Dan8267 says

Real Americans have always been rebels. Yet for all their talk, gun fans have never shown any rebel streak.

It all depends on your definition of "Big Government".
Liberals see an expanded military as BG...
Conservatives see an expanded social agenda as BG...

This indicates the conservative view is closer to the truth....

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dmb/federal-state-local-government-responsibilities.pdf

smaulgld says

That is a broad generalization but in some ways a valid criticism of some conservatives who argue against big government but are more than happy to use big government to fight foreign wars and the drug war

SoftShell says

What a load of shit...

There exists a ton of anti-government militias.

And no matter what you say, they ARE Rebels...

The anti-government militias are like No'Maam, completely impotent and ineffectual.
http://www.F7LTzEmnyms