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FAA doesn't like beer delivery drones :(


               
2014 Jan 31, 2:05am   2,862 views  14 comments

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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/30/269039542/beer-drone-can-buzz-the-skies-no-more-faa-says

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Lakemaid Beer is brewed in Stevens Point, Wis., and distributed to several states in the region. But it was a very local delivery that put the company out of favor with the Federal Aviation Administration.

The Minnesota-based company is receiving a flood of support and condolences after the FAA ruled that its beer delivery drone, which had only recently taken flight, had to be shut down.

Lakemaid calls itself the fishermen's lager. It had hoped to use drones to deliver its beer to anglers in thousands of ice shacks, from the frozen northern lakes' combination bait and beer shops. But the government says the brewer's next test — which Lakemaid managing partner Jack Supple says was tentatively set for Minnesota's Lake Mille Lacs and the Twin Pines resort — cannot proceed.

"We were a little surprised at the FAA interest in this since we thought we were operating under the 400-foot limit," Supple says via email. He adds that the beer-makers "figured a vast frozen lake was a lot safer place than [what] Amazon was showing on 60 Minutes."

The brewery's test flight created a stir after it was posted on YouTube last week, capturing imaginations and, in some cases, leading people to say they a future in which the sky buzzes with drones.

In December, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos of his company's plan to use drones to move to same-day local delivery in the next several years. In , Supple said Lakemaid's drone plans had advantages over Amazon's — particularly the flat landscape of a frozen lake and the fairly uniform height of the ice shacks.

But as we discussed after the Amazon report aired, FAA rules don't currently allow drones to be used for commercial delivery — and it eventually emerged that the test video Bezos showed was actually , for legal reasons. The agency has scheduled reviews of its rules on drones.

Supple says the FAA got in touch to let Lakemaid know its plan broke four — and possibly five — regulations, ranging from the operator's rating to the use of airspace. And that's too bad, he says, because he had big plans.

"My intent was to try a larger drone that could fly unmanned, based on just the coordinates" of an ice shack, he says. And the Twin Pines resort "has fish houses out in the bay probably half a mile. So a little longer stretch than we first tested."

Drones have been used to deliver beer before — notably at a . But the federal agency said it's a no-go in U.S. airspace.

"The FAA controls the safety of our airspace all the way to ground level, according to the calls I got from the local inspector and the regional supervisor this week," Supple says.

In an email, the agency told Lakemaid that it "recognizes that people and companies other than modelers might be flying UAS with the mistaken understanding" that their actions are legal. But the rules and guidelines used in such cases apply only to people flying model airplanes, the FAA added.

After word of the FAA's intervention came out, a was begun to try to get the agency to allow the brewery's beers to get airborne again.

Supply says Lakemaid is figuring out what its next steps are. But he admits that in hindsight, he can see the FAA's point.

"I understand their concern," he says. "Drones whizzing around piloted by any knucklehead is probably not the Jetsons future we all imagined."

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1   Tenpoundbass   @   2014 Jan 31, 2:46am  

I don't like Beer delivery drones, especially bottled beer delivery drones.

Sounds Like the FAA wants to nip Private drone usage in the bud,
and redefine "Model air planes".

I wonder if they'll go after Amazon if they don't pony up Democrat campaign contributions?

2   zzyzzx   @   2014 Jan 31, 3:19am  

CaptainShuddup says

especially bottled beer delivery drones.

I was also wondering why they didn't deliver cans instead???

3   edvard2   @   2014 Jan 31, 3:29am  

Amazing that drone can pick that 12 pack up. Anyway, I think its an ingenious idea. Only problem I could potentially see is if the drone suddenly had problem and a heavy 12 pack of beer came plummeting down who knows where

4   Vicente   @   2014 Jan 31, 7:12am  

edvard2 says

Only problem I could potentially see is if the drone suddenly had problem and a heavy 12 pack of beer came plummeting down who knows where

I wouldn't like having an empty bottle thrown at my head. Now I'm standing on the lake admiring this pretty drone fly past my fishing spot to a shack, when a good gust of wind smashes a pack of full bottles upside my head instead. Assuming I'm not seriously injured I will confiscate the beer.

I'm an aerospace nerd, but this idea of automated drones zipping all over the place is not something I embrace.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/26/drone-falls-dangerously-out-of-sky-local-news-station-reveals-what-it-had-been-filming/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/26/drone-crash-caused-more-injuries-at-great-bull-run-than-bulls/

5   smaulgld   @   2014 Jan 31, 8:02am  

When Can I Get My Yams Delivered By Drone?

6   Dan8267   @   2014 Jan 31, 9:28am  

Our government: Drones that kill children? Awesome! Drones that deliver liquid happiness? Bogus!

7   zzyzzx   @   2014 Jan 31, 9:40am  

smaulgld says

When Can I Get My Yams Delivered By Drone?

When can I get my Gatling gun ammo delivered by drone?

8   Dan8267   @   2014 Jan 31, 11:17am  

zzyzzx says

smaulgld says

When Can I Get My Yams Delivered By Drone?

When can I get my Gatling gun ammo delivered by drone?

If a drone with a Gatling gun heads towards you, run.

9   Ceffer   @   2014 Jan 31, 11:29am  

They won't legalize them until the drones can deliver kegs and put the hands of passed out college students in tubs of warm water while they lay sprawled on the couch.

10   New Renter   @   2014 Jan 31, 12:59pm  

smaulgld says

When Can I Get My Yams Delivered By Drone?

One Word:

Railgun!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun

11   New Renter   @   2014 Jan 31, 1:04pm  

Dan8267 says

zzyzzx says

smaulgld says

When Can I Get My Yams Delivered By Drone?

When can I get my Gatling gun ammo delivered by drone?

If a drone with a Gatling gun heads towards you, run.

If you can see it, its already too late!

12   zzyzzx   @   2014 Jan 31, 9:34pm  

New Renter says

When Can I Get My Yams Delivered By Drone?

One Word:

Railgun!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun

13   New Renter   @   2014 Feb 1, 12:58am  

I was thinking of an electromagnetic railgun but your point is taken.

I suppose your delivery preference will depend on whether you prefer your yams microwaved or baked.

14   Vicente   @   2014 Feb 1, 4:39am  

What about hijacking?

Compressed air powered, reusable ammo.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-A-Net-Gun/

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