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bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

No, they weren't. Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller price index rose 11.3% in the 4th quarter of 2013 compared to a year earlier.

You are correct, but from the bottom, 2009 or 2011 whichever you pick, to now some house prices went up in Las Vegas from 100k to close to 200k.

Er, I'm sure SOME houses in SOME PLACES have doubled in price since 2009, but that was not the claim you made, was it?

MattBayArea says

does anyone *really* think that guns are the root cause?

I certainly don't think guns are the root cause of violence; they just do a lot more damage than fists or knives or baseball bats.

MattBayArea says

I can't help but think we'd have more success by improving how we handle mental illness.

That's a start, albeit a very small one. We need to stop pretending mental illness isn't real. I've seen people on this very forum claim that mentally ill people would be fine if they'd just eat right. Denial doesn't solve the problem. At least ACA now says that treatment for mental illness must be covered by health insurance. In the past, it frequently wasn't even covered at all.

MattBayArea says

If we're going to regulate guns, maybe we should focus on keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill and those who live with them.

There are 11,000 gun murders a year in the US. No offense, but I think it's pretty naive to think "keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill", and nothing else, is going to even put a dent in that number.

Call it Crazy says

Or better yet, how about focusing on the group that's doing the murders.

Good point, I'll go along with your call to ban guns for under 24 year olds.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Er, I'm sure SOME houses in SOME PLACES have doubled in price since 2009, but that was not the claim you made, was it?

That is what I meant. So thanks for clarifying my position Bigsby.

That's what you meant? Presumably that is why you said:

bgamall4 says

Ok, house prices doubled in the past year, Einstein. Is it a conspiracy? Of course it was.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

That's what you meant? Presumably that is why you said:

bgamall4 says

Ok, house prices doubled in the past year, Einstein. Is it a conspiracy? Of course it was.

Time flies fast Bigsby. I just knew that in some places house prices have doubled from the crash and you confirmed it for me, so thanks.

I didn't confirm anything you said. I refuted it. The fact you now want to pretend you said something completely different doesn't change that.

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