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Does not matter how many US troops get killed. If we can save the life of one, just one Iraqi, it will all be worth it!

Strategist says

What really surprises me is a lot of atheists and liberals who never fail to
attack Christians, but will never say anything against Islam

It's a matter of (myopic) perspective. Living in a Christian, Fox News dominated country, there are plenty of occasions for christians to cause trouble for non-christians, often for sharia-law-like reasons such as abortion and LGBT matters.
There are also many instances where a consensus of "christians" or plain foxbots will pass along some manner of horseshit about muslims, and as a group they will all agree; any challenger is likely to be a liberal or other outgroup by their standards, and is rabidly turned on and attacked by the group, precluding any learning or understanding and preserving their consensus reality that all muslims are (whatever.)
What you DON'T see are the occasions when a liberal may be talking to muslim folks, and challenging misconceptions THEY may have about western and often specifically christian ideas. The Fox-loving Merkins are predisposed to think that all muslims are the same; it is interesting to talk to "westernized" muslims. The jingoists and foxbots fail to recognize that the underlying problems with muslims who fail to integrate with cultures such as in Britain, are actually problems of opportunity and economy, not Islam per se.

Automan Empire says

Strategist says

What really surprises me is a lot of atheists and liberals who never fail to

attack Christians, but will never say anything against Islam

It's a matter of (myopic) perspective. Living in a Christian, Fox News dominated country, there are plenty of occasions for christians to cause trouble for non-christians, often for sharia-law-like reasons such as abortion and LGBT matters.

Agree with Automan Empire that Strategist is making a pretty bogus straw man. People who dislike radical Christianity are also likely to dislike radical Islam. Radical Christianity is definitely very Sharia-like. It's hilarious to me that fundamentalist Christians worry that Sharia might be imposed here in the US when the only people trying to impose Sharia-like elements are fundamentalist Christians.

corntrollio says

Agree with Automan Empire that Strategist is making a pretty bogus straw man. People who dislike radical Christianity are also likely to dislike radical Islam. Radical Christianity is definitely very Sharia-like. It's hilarious to me that fundamentalist Christians worry that Sharia might be imposed here in the US when the only people trying to impose Sharia-like elements are fundamentalist Christians.

We don't have radical Christianity in the West. We don't burn witches any more, or stone someone to death or kill gays. If it happens it's considered a crime and swiftly dealt with by the rule of law. Now look at the Mid East. There is no comparison. Even Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris have pointed this out. I understand Sam Harris has body guards as he is targeted by radical Islam. He is not targeted by radical Christianity.

Strategist says

corntrollio says

Agree with Automan Empire that Strategist is making a pretty bogus straw man. People who dislike radical Christianity are also likely to dislike radical Islam. Radical Christianity is definitely very Sharia-like. It's hilarious to me that fundamentalist Christians worry that Sharia might be imposed here in the US when the only people trying to impose Sharia-like elements are fundamentalist Christians.

We don't have radical Christianity in the West. We don't burn witches any more, or stone someone to death or kill gays. If it happens it's considered a crime and swiftly dealt with by the rule of law. Now look at the Mid East. There is no comparison. Even Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris have pointed this out. I understand Sam Harris has body guards as he is targeted by radical Islam. He is not targeted by radical Christianity.

I would also add....if anyone wants to make the world a better place within the religion context, we need to spend our time and resources attacking Islam, not Christianity. Simply because we get a bigger bang for the buck by controlling the worst, the most dangerous and the only one that wants to annihilate us.

I'll go. Just recall me back to active duty.

Strategist says

We don't have radical Christianity in the West.

Anyone trying to implement law based on scripture is radical. We have plenty of people who would like to do that in the West. Just like most Christians aren't radical Christians, most Muslims aren't radical Muslims. It just so happens that radical ones are in power in certain places, but that was once the case with Christians too (no one expects the Spanish Inquisition...).

Of interest... synopsis of troop movements and recent events...

thunderlips11 says

Of interest... synopsis of troop movements and recent events...

The synopsis is that in the very near future this will be the scene in Baghdad.