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NSA is just stuffed with abusive pricks who hate America and it's freedoms.

I think I'll write my Congresswoman another letter today.

Thanks for the reminder Dan.

Which is worse:

NSA "stumbling across" nude pictures already out there on the web.

OR

Security guards passing around screen captures from security cameras watching people as they try on clothes in retail store changing rooms?

Sure these pictures may not have been intended to be seen by the NSA but does anyone really think the guys at Yahoo/Google/Verizon/ATT/etc are not looking at these pics or even sent by Yahoo/Google/Verizon/ATT/etc directly to the NSA flagged as "suspicious activity"?

https://spideroak.com/

Dan8267 says

https://spideroak.com/

And why don't you believe these private entrepreneurs won't be poking through your collection of hot assless chaps pics?

New Renter says

Dan8267 says

https://spideroak.com/

And why don't you believe these private entrepreneurs won't be poking through your collection of hot assless chaps pics?

https://spideroak.com/zero-knowledge/

Basically, you encrypt your data on your machine. If you don't trust the company at all, upload TrueCrypt files.

1984.is

The spectrum argument is very prevalent. I remember years ago when I was young, I called a radio station. They were discussing a hot political issue. They literally cut me off when I wanted to provide opinion for the other side, because they were only interested in one side and one side only.

That was the day I remember well, because it was a lesson learned. My lesson was "All media is bullshit!".

Every American should be ashamed that Edward Snowden had to seek political asylum in Russia. It's god-damn embarrassing especially when we call ourselves the land of the free. This is the kind of shit that we look down on when other nations do it.

Dan8267 says

Every American should be ashamed that Edward Snowden had to seek political asylum in Russia. It's god-damn embarrassing especially when we call ourselves the land of the free. This is the kind of shit that we look down on when other nations do it.

Not really. All nations spy.

Dan8267 says

Every American should be ashamed that Edward Snowden had to seek political asylum in Russia. It's god-damn embarrassing especially when we call ourselves the land of the free. This is the kind of shit that we look down on when other nations do it.

If you want to be ashamed for something be ashamed the Mexican army had to provide humanitarian aid in New Orleans because our own system was too broken:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

New Renter says

Dan8267 says

Every American should be ashamed that Edward Snowden had to seek political asylum in Russia. It's god-damn embarrassing especially when we call ourselves the land of the free. This is the kind of shit that we look down on when other nations do it.

If you want to be ashamed for something be ashamed the Mexican army had to provide humanitarian aid in New Orleans because our own system was too broken:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

Remind us who was President then.

Strategist says

Dan8267 says

Every American should be ashamed that Edward Snowden had to seek political asylum in Russia. It's god-damn embarrassing especially when we call ourselves the land of the free. This is the kind of shit that we look down on when other nations do it.

Not really. All nations spy.

You missed my point. It was about making one of our citizens a political refugee for whistleblowing, not about spying.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

Dan8267 says

Every American should be ashamed that Edward Snowden had to seek political asylum in Russia. It's god-damn embarrassing especially when we call ourselves the land of the free. This is the kind of shit that we look down on when other nations do it.

Not really. All nations spy.

You missed my point. It was about making one of our citizens a political refugee for whistleblowing, not about spying.

He did it on his own. You don't give away our secrets to our rivals. It makes you a traitor. Snowden is a traitor.

Strategist says

Snowden is a traitor.

No, you're thinking of the Republican Party leaders who outed CIA agent Valerie Plame for political revenge. Plame's job was to make sure that loose nukes don't get in the hands of terrorists. So the traitors in the Bush administration who outed her literally risked American cities getting nuked by terrorists for their political gain. That's fucking treason.

Snowden made us safer by revealing the extent of our government's crimes. Without his revelations America would have continued down the path to Soviet-style tyranny.

Dan8267 says

Snowden made us safer by revealing the extent of our government's crimes. Without his revelations America would have continued down the path to Soviet-style tyranny.

There is no crime by our government. Their objective is to protect us by preventing crimes.
Do you think China and Russia don't spy on their people? Kind of ironic for Snowden to take refuge in countries that spy even more, don't you think? Traitor Snowden deserves Russia, it's better then life in prison in luxury American resorts called prisons.

Strategist says

There is no crime by our government.

That that to the children killed by Apache helicopters.

It is utterly idiotic to state that a person working as a government agent is incapable of committing a crime because the stated objective of the government is "to protect us".

Of course, governments themselves don't commit crimes; people working in the government commit crimes. But this is what is meant by the phrase "crimes of governments". It's shorthand for crimes committed by people while holding government positions and using the power of the state, but that's just too fucking long to say and people already bitch that I'm too verbose.