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Extreme Liberatarian and Ayn Rand fanboy runs Sears into the ground

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/ayn_rand_loving_ceo_destroys_his_empire_partner/

tatupu70 says

The path tubes aren't tunnels.

From your preferred source, nytimes.com: "PATH train tunnels under the Hudson River... the tunnels — four tubes...."

Just for fun, I'll even quote Wikipedia for you, and no I didn't write this: "The Downtown Hudson Tubes are a pair of tunnels that carry PATH trains under the Hudson River between New York City and Jersey City in the United States." "The Uptown Hudson Tubes are a pair of tunnels that carry PATH trains under the Hudson River between New York City and Jersey City, New Jersey." "The North River Tunnels carry Amtrak and New Jersey Transit rail lines under the Hudson River between Weehawken, New Jersey and Pennsylvania Station in Manhattan, New York City." Your insatiable addiction to trolling has distracted you from the first rule of holes, as enunciated by the late NY Times writer Molly Ivins: when you've dug yourself into a hole, the first thing you need to do is to stop digging.

Come to think of it, the same could be said for your protégé Krugman and his penchant for dishonest advocacy. The difference is, he gets paid for his columns (and who knows how much he got paid for lying about the number of tunnels); your trolling is an unpaid symptom of a personality disorder.

curious2 says

From your preferred source, nytimes.com: "PATH train tunnels under the Hudson River... the tunnels — four tubes...."

Why do you think I like the NY Times? The Path tubes are called tubes for a reason.

"The tracks cross the Hudson River through century-old cast iron tubes that rest on the river bottom under a thin layer of silt"

Again--check your mirror.

I noticed you just added another section. You didn't quote the first paragraph though:

"PATH trains only use tunnels in Manhattan, Hoboken and downtown Jersey City. The tracks cross the Hudson River through century-old cast iron tubes that rest on the river bottom under a thin layer of silt"

But, see, the whole point of Krugman's article was that another tunnel was needed because the north river tunnel is at 100% capacity. You can try to distract from the point all you want--that's what a troll does, after all--but his point is appropriate.

CL says

Well, for one, it seems to be attracting some dialogue, which isn't bad.

If finding facts on the Internet is like searching for needles in a haystack, then drawing trolls and fighting Ryan's lies with Krugman's lies is basically saying you want a bigger haystack.

curious2 says

CL says

Well, for one, it seems to be attracting some dialogue, which isn't bad.

If finding facts on the Internet is like searching for needles in a haystack, then drawing trolls and fighting Ryan's lies with Krugman's lies is basically saying you want a bigger haystack.

Of course. We should avoid the internet, lest people discuss a topic relevant to many posters!

CL says

We should avoid....

adding to the number of lies that can already be found online. Sarcasm doesn't help. When trolls spread lies the situation becomes like Monty Python's "spam" sketch, what people used to call a waste of bandwidth back when that counted for something. I'm done - I sought information exchange and brought facts and links, but if you created this thread for the actual purpose of proliferating trolling, then like W in Iraq you've accomplished your mission.

Everyone's a troll!!

Isn't that's what internet forums are all about?

I think the only person that could ever NOT be considered a troll. Would be someone who comments on every thread he opened and read. In fact he would also have to click on every topic and every thread in every topic.

We all troll internet forums for intellect stimuli varying in quality and degree.
We only bother with the topics that strikes a cord with us.

If your only intent in commenting, is to get a rise out of people. Then that's a little off. But in this forum of so many polar opposites, and political ideas and leanings. There is nothing that can be posted, that doesn't get a rise out of someone.

justme says

Extreme Liberatarian and Ayn Rand fanboy runs Sears into the ground

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/ayn_rand_loving_ceo_destroys_his_empire_partner/

Being great at playing finance circle-jerk and robbing retirees, doesn't neccessarily translate to running a retail empire. SURPRISE!

gsr says

Someone has to do this job. The government is doing it, and hence no private consumer protection industry has been started yet.

What pray tell would a private consumer protection agency do? Who would fund it? How would it affect industry? One more pie in the sky libertarian concept that would happen some day if we just waited long enough. Long enough defined as if it didn't happen so far some day it might.

So when the cahouga river caught fire because it was so polluted, millions of people were directly threatened by toxic waste dumps, and the cities had smog so bad you couldn't see 50 feet how much longer should we have waited? When exactly were the private consumer protection agencies going to spring up? How much worse would it have to get? What authority would they have had to stop industry once they magically appeared?

I'm sure there is a libratarian platitude coming to explain it all.

I'm no fan of government, but some things are a government functions no matter how much the libertarians whine about it. The real problem is limiting the creep of scope, which is out of control in same agencies. In the totally dysfunctional political system of today no one says hey agency x has gone too far let's reign them in. The repugs say agency x has to be eliminated and the dumbcrats won't say no it just needs cutting back because it would make them look they are agreeing. Hopeless. The republican agenda of making the country ungovernable is pretty much mission accomplished at this point.

Vicente says

Being great at playing finance circle-jerk and robbing retirees, doesn't neccessarily translate to running a retail empire. SURPRISE!

Domo Origato, Randroid Roboto

Great read, Vincente.