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Rin says

Perhaps you should ask your local PD.

It is illegal in America. A massage parlor, only a few miles away from my home, right here in MA, was busted last year in a sting operation.

You claim to work for a hedge fund. You would have money then, wouldn't you? I presume you understand what that means.
Rin says

Montreal co-ed esc*rts are not heroin addicts. They drink a glass of red wine and I have my usual dry Martini. That's a world apart from what the Google exec did.

Good grief. The Google exec did what he wanted to do. That was his choice. Others make different choices. Like I said, your lines have the ring of a fantasist. A glass of red wine and a dry martini indeed! Been reading a bit too much Ian Fleming, have you?

Bigsby says

And don't you do nothing but claim to fuck skanks? Oh, I forgot, they're 'high class' skanks.

In the USA, it's called a false rape charge (see Kobe Bryant story) or taking a man to the cleaners (when married).

In other nations, it's honest sex workers doing their jobs. You provide the cash, they provide the services.

Bigsby says

You would have money then, wouldn't you? I presume you understand what that means.

Rin says

Sugar Daddy/Sugar Baby deals in America are overpriced and a high risk, given the temperamental ways of local women. You saw what happened to Donald Sterling and his Sugar Baby thing. She spilled the beans to the world and Sterling was forced to sell the Clippers and is barred from NBA games.

Bigsby says

The Google exec did what he wanted to do. That was his choice.

Shooting smack is idiotic, regardless of who's decision it was.

Bigsby says

A glass of red wine and a dry martini indeed!

Hello ... why do you think that the Montreal thing is so fun? It's because you get to act like a gentleman and have the proper cordials. And many women like Merlot; I prefer gin.

Also, have you heard of crepes? They're very popular there ... think French-Canada.

Rin says

Sugar Daddy/Sugar Baby deals in America are overpriced and a high risk, given the temperamental ways of local women. You saw what happened to Donald Sterling and his Sugar Baby thing. She spilled the beans to the world and Sterling was forced to sell the Clippers and is barred from NBA games.

Good grief. You don't have a clue, do you?

Rin says

Bigsby says

The Google exec did what he wanted to do. That was his choice.

Shooting smack is idiotic, regardless of who's decision it was.

Bigsby says

A glass of red wine and a dry martini indeed!

Hello ... why do you think that the Montreal thing is so fun? It's because you get to act like a gentleman and have the proper cordials.

Also, have you heard of crepes? They're very popular there ... think French-Canada.

Like I said...

Bigsby says

Good grief. You don't have a clue, do you?

I already told you that I'd stopped dating, years ago. What part of that do you not understand?

Bigsby says

Like I said...

Then go up and try it, before you knock it.

If you wanted to start a thread called "Bigsby's Conventional View of Life" then do so.

Rin says

I'm looking for an Olivia Wilde doppelganger.

Found one. However, I don't do timeshare.

Good luck my friend!

Vicente says

Rin says

I'm looking for an Olivia Wilde doppelganger.

Found one. However, I don't do timeshare.

Good luck my friend!

Best wishes to you :-)

Rin says

Bigsby says

Like I said...

Then go up and try it, before you knock it.

If you wanted to start a thread called "Bigsby's Conventional View of Life" then do so.

As I've spent almost my entire adult life working abroad in a number of countries, I wouldn't really say my life or views about it are particularly conventional. What I can say though is that what you write and how you write it lacks the ring of truth. It does, in fact, sound very much like the imaginings of a teenager who hasn't actually experienced any of the things that he so vividly claims to have.

Bigsby says

What I can say though is that what you write and how you write it lacks the ring of truth. It does, in fact, sound very much like the imaginings of a teenager who hasn't actually experienced any of the things that he so vividly claims to have.

In my real life, I have to keep quiet on issues like prost*tution and dating in general.

Here, I get to be myself, so if that makes me a man-child, a.k.a Peter Pan Syndrome, so be it.

As for the real story or not, I'd actually been to this one particular shop in Australia, now years ago ...

http://www.lapetitearoma.com.au/sydney-brothel-ladies

The photo panorama has changed a little but I'd been with one of the gals, Japanese-Australian, there, in a 'burb, north of Sydney. So I'm not lying, I've done this stuff before. Unfortunately, in that place, I'm not allowed to order a Martini so I had to settle for a soda.

So you keep saying. Personally, I don't believe a word you post.

Bigsby says

Rin says

Bigsby says

Like I said...

Then go up and try it, before you knock it.

If you wanted to start a thread called "Bigsby's Conventional View of Life" then do so.

As I've spent almost my entire adult life working abroad in a number of countries, I wouldn't really say my life or views about it are particularly conventional. What I can say though is that what you write and how you write it lacks the ring of truth. It does, in fact, sound very much like the imaginings of a teenager who hasn't actually experienced any of the things that he so vividly claims to have.

You've never browsed humaniplex.com, have you bigsby?

Bigsby says

So you keep saying. Personally, I don't believe a word you post.

Ok, so there's no brothel in Chatswood N.S.W., north of Sydney.

Those photo ops are then trained models, not actual attractive women who work there. There's a number on the website; call 'em, and ask if they have the women in the panorama, actually working in the facilities.

And then, there's no possibility that a woman, who used to work there, has Japanese citizenship and Australian permanent residency. And it's not possible that I'd spent a bit of cash, to have a good time with her.

Seriously, you're really lame.

Wow, you're able to use the internet. Congratulations. And your hedge fund work doesn't appear to be keeping you too busy today...

Bigsby says

Wow, you're able to use the internet. Congratulations.

All right, I'll bite. Why don't you call 'em? Cmon, I'm challenging you, since you called me a liar.

Do you want me to describe the walk from the Chatswood train station to the door of the Red Brick building. The waiting room, where the gals introduced themselves, individually. How the cute Japanese-Australian, with a cute voice & tight bottom, took me to the master bedroom with the jacuzzi and the king size bed. I'd been there and experienced a first class bordello.

Rin says

All right, I'll bite. Why don't you call 'em? Cmon, I'm challenging you, since you called me a liar.

They know your name do they? Post it up and when you visited, and I'll give them a bell. And you describing it means absolutely nothing. We can all do a quick google and pretend to be informed about all sorts of things these days. The mere fact you use a turn of phrase such as 'cute voice & tight bottom' when you claim to be a mid 30's hedge fund employee makes me almost laugh out loud.

Bigsby says

What I can say though is that what you write and how you write it lacks the ring of truth. It does, in fact, sound very much like the imaginings of a teenager who hasn't actually experienced any of the things that he so vividly claims to have.

Obligatory:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/IlD08Rh6xa8

Of course they don't know my name. Ask about the woman, if a Japanese-Australian was there, some 8-10 years ago. And about the room, since that was her favorite room in the place.

Bigsby says

'cute voice & tight bottom'

I still notice these things. Perhaps you're too old to get excited by 'em. I have certain things that I remember gals better than others. It's called eye candy.

So far, everything you'd said tells me that you're conventional with ordinary ideas about society.

Plus, my job is now in sales so half the time, it's waiting on IMs.

Rin says

Of course they don't know my name. Ask about the woman, if a Japanese-Australian was there, some 8-10 years ago. And about the room, since that was her favorite room in the place.

Wow, an Australian brothel with a Japanese hooker, a king size bed (oh my) and a jacuzzi to boot. Who'd have thunk it?

Rin says

I still notice these things. Perhaps you're too old to get excited by 'em. I have certain things that I remember gals better than others. It's called eye candy.

It's called laughably immature writing.

Rin says

So far, everything you'd said tells me that you're conventional with ordinary ideas about society.

Is that right? Strange that seeing as I haven't said anything about my life or my general views on it. I've simply said that you sound like a fantasist. I said that because you do.

Bigsby says

Oh my. How interesting. I actually worked in Japan for a good few years...

Ok, then you should have known some men who'd been to Soaplands and enjoyed themselves. Others to hostess bars, to drink with some gals for a good time.

Aren't those catered to fantasies?

Rin says

Bigsby says

Oh my. How interesting. I actually worked in Japan for a good few years...

Ok, then you should have known some men who'd been to Soaplands and enjoyed themselves. Others to hostess bars, to drink with some gals for a good time.

Aren't those catered to fantasies?

I don't get your point. What has that got to do with the believability of your posts? You write like you've never touched a woman. Seriously, what you post is just bizarre.

Bigsby says

I don't get your point. What has that got to do with the believability of your posts? You write like you've never touched a woman. Seriously, what you post is just bizarre.

No, it's because I'm bored to death with women and dating stateside.

The only way to sustain any interest, anymore, is interjecting fantasy into esc*rting situations. Otherwise, it's like paying the bills, washing the car, or attending a client meeting.

By tagging a gal, as a movie star look-a-like, I get that fantasy.

In the case of that Sydney brothel, by recalling how Keiko's voice sounded and her bottom, I'm still able to recall her clearly today, otherwise, it would be like the memories of those lame relationships which had failed during my 20s. Much of them now feel like ancient history and reading a dossier about 'em.

Presumably as your hands meandered her bodily attributes. Or something.

Bigsby says

Presumably as your hands meandered her bodily attributes. Or something.

Her voice was also sweet, so it's multi-sensory. Yes, her bottom definitely helped on the tactile front.

And for a brief moment, it felt like "falling for a gal", back in school days, but in a foreign location as an international student. And then, the wishful thinking/dream was over, a short time later, which is fine.

Now, that was years ago and I still remember her.

The last memory of my Canadian ex-GF (~3 years back) was her screaming about something and me ignoring the whole conversation. Thus, I don't have this pleasant freeze frame memory reel of her. I'd rather just completely forget about her.

But what about "too blaze! too blaze!"?
.

Don't you want to find your soul mate?

Different strokes for different folks, I say.

The world is FULL of punters of all ages, I've even seen grandpas having some fun. There are whole sites devoted to the hobby with tens of thousands of members.

In South America (and in Europe), I hardly ever go to a public place without seeing a least one or two old guys and their mistresses. Sometimes the dudes are easily well beyond 60, and the gals not even 30. Who cares? Nobody does. You almost never see that in the US, and if you did, everybody would stare and snicker. Anywhere else (except maybe the UK) , nobody really gives a shit, none of their business.

I know quite a few American guys here who just play around or do the sugar daddy thing here and there and it's very satisfying to them. I get to live vicariously when their gals send over the pics. One guy has been married a couple of times, he's about 50, and he's done with it. Just not his thing. Is he an everlasting teenager? Not really. Just not good at relationships or fundamentally attracted to bad matches. So you change your approach and expectations and adapt to your reality.

Mongering is a good lifestyle for some decent guys whose expectations outstrip their appearance, wallet, social skills, or social standing, or simply have a hard time with relationships, and are better under the Pay-as-you-Go system.

More power to 'em.

thunderlips11 says

Sometimes the dudes are easily well beyond 60, and the gals not even 30. Who cares? Nobody does. You almost never see that in the US, and if you did, everybody would stare and snicker.

But that's just the point; my detractor, being mainstream American, talks like he didn't really *live* in Japan { aside from perhaps being couped up at his work facilities } and thus, didn't really digest how many salarymen and execs attend hostess bars and Soaplands, regularly. The idea of a guy, indulging a fantasy, however he manifests it with a paid for consort, is something which is very common outside of America.

thunderlips11 says

Is he an everlasting teenager? Not really.

Yes, but there's something to be said about having a compartmentalized Peter Pan syndrome of sorts. This is the type of person who follows a routine of work, exercise, hobbies, maintaining old friendships, and so forth, but indulges a rich fantasy life as well. And esc*rts, outside of America, help make that possible. Relationships in America, however, don't.

Rin says

But that's just the point; my detractor, being mainstream American, talks like he didn't really *live* in Japan { aside from perhaps being couped up at his work facilities } and thus, didn't really digest how many salarymen and execs attend hostess bars and Soaplands, regularly. The idea of a guy, indulging a fantasy, however he manifests it with a paid for consort, is something which is very common outside of America.

Except I'm not American, and who knows what you mean by mainstream. And don't make me laugh about didn't really *live* in Japan as if hookers and hostess bars are somehow central to the Japanese way of life. I'd say most foreigners who work in Japan for major businesses will be taken on trips to (vastly overpriced) hostess bars. Big deal - care to explain what you think the massive attraction of that is over say going to an izakaya with your Japanese friends? Which one do you think is more 'real'? But hey keep daydreaming about actually visiting one of those establishments. I'm sure we're all waiting with bated breath for the next installment of 'my hands meandered down her bodily attributes' (soaped up no doubt). Be careful where you go as many of the places aren't gaijin friendly. And take plenty of money. That's if you're old enough of course.

Actually, I'd only spent up to 4 days in Japan, so no, I didn't see the hostess lifestyle that my friends talked about.

And yes, many places in Japan aren't gaijin friendly which is why Thailand is so popular. And even outside of the gaijin world, two of my Japanese friends (who'd attended college in America) are married to Thai women.

Of course, that's a fantasy and such men don't exist in Japan. Regardless, you'd called me a liar and likewise, I'm telling you to f'k off.

Rin says

Actually, I'd only spent up to 4 days in Japan, so no, I didn't see the hostess lifestyle that my friends talked about.

What does that even mean? Hostess lifestyle indeed.

Rin says

And yes, many places in Japan aren't gaijin friendly which is why Thailand is so popular.

I'd say it has a lot more to do with it being far cheaper.

Rin says

And even outside of the gaijin world, two of my Japanese friends are married to Thai women.

Amazing. Your point?

Rin says

Of course, that's a fantasy and such men don't exist in Japan.

?

Rin says

Regardless, you'd called me a liar and likewise, I'm telling you to f'k off.

Fine, and I'm telling you that you should take a course in creative writing. '..meandering on women's bodily attributes' indeed. Thanks for giving me the biggest laugh since joining this forum.

Bigsby says

Rin says

Regardless, you'd called me a liar and likewise, I'm telling you to f'k off.

Fine, and I'm telling you that you should take a course in creative writing. '..meandering on women's bodily attributes' indeed. Thanks for giving me the biggest laugh since joining this forum.

Actually, I don't care what you think. I hope that your wife takes you to the cleaners and destroys the rest of this incarnation. I pray that you end up a lonely old man.

Rin says

Actually, I don't care what you think. I hope that your wife takes you to the cleaners and destroys the rest of this incarnation. I pray that you end up a lonely old man.

Very nice. You and Bgamall should get together. Mind, I suspect it's not going to be me who ends up a lonely old man...

Bigsby says

Rin says

Actually, I don't care what you think. I hope that your wife takes you to the cleaners and destroys the rest of this incarnation. I pray that you end up a lonely old man.

Very nice. You and Bgamall should get together. Mind, I suspect it's not going to be me who ends up a lonely old man...

Not really, I keep my friends close. I disregard all enemies.

BTW, why don't you go elsewhere, as it's obvious that you didn't add anything to my (not your) thread on seeing esc*rts for fantasy scenarios.

Rin says

BTW, why don't you go elsewhere, as it's obvious that you didn't add anything to my (not your) thread on seeing esc*rts for fantasy scenarios.

It looks like I was just about the only person to add anything to this thread... And what do you mean 'escorts for fantasy scenarios.' Hookers are hookers. There's not much fantasy going on in that arrangement.

Rin says

Doesn't matter, they can think outside of the box. I'm not simply picking on a guy, just because of his lifestyle choices. It's what's in his thoughts and consciousness.

I'm not picking on you about your lifestyle choices. I couldn't care less if people pay for hookers. That isn't thinking outside of the box FFS. Seriously, on what planet is that considered thinking outside of the box? That's my problem with you - you seem to be under the misapprehension that there's something special or unusual about paying for hookers. There isn't. Your posts simply don't have the ring of truth to me.

Bigsby says

That's my problem with you - you seem to be under the misapprehension that there's something special or unusual about paying for hookers. There isn't. Your posts simply don't have the ring of truth to me.

In the United States of America, men are suppose to date and either have, temporary relations (short term girlfriends), or start on the path to a long term relationship and possibly marriage. That's America, in a nutshell.

There's no concept of a man, who's making a decent living (and who exercises and doesn't do drugs), seeing esc*rts or whatever, to satisfy his needs. In America, that's considered a fringe behavior pattern. In your former place of employment, Japan, there's nothing strange about that.

Rin says

In the United States of America, men are suppose to date and either have, temporary relations (short term girlfriends), or start on the path to a long term relationship and possibly marriage. That's America, in a nutshell.

That's pretty much the world in a nutshell.

Rin says

There's no concept of a man, who's making a decent living (and who exercises and doesn't do drugs), seeing esc*rts or whatever, to satisfy his needs. In America, that's considered a fringe behavior pattern. In your former place of employment, Japan, there's nothing strange about that.

What do you mean no concept of seeing hookers or (presumably) having a mistress? People do it in vast numbers. They just don't generally prattle on about it on public forums. And what on earth has exercising and not doing drugs got to do with any of that?
And Japan is more open about sex than America. So what? It doesn't then mean Japanese housewives couldn't care less if their husbands are seeing hookers.

Bigsby says

What do you mean no concept of seeing hookers or presumably having a mistress? People do it. They just don't generally prattle on about it on public forums. And what on earth has exercising and not doing drugs got to do with any of that?

And Japan is more open about sex than America. So what? It doesn't mean Japanese housewives couldn't care less if their husbands are seeing hookers.

In America, having any type of adjuvant sexual outlet, is completely frowned upon, by much of society. And this includes single men and hookers. Even single men are expected to be in the dating game.

In America, the connotation is 'hookers & cocaine'. Watch "Wolf of Wall St" for an example, as well as the cable show, "Californication", where sexuality is fused with rampant drug abuse and alcoholism.

Thus, if you see any esc*rts, it's inferred that you also have a drug/alcohol problem.

In my life, I live a very clean, athletic lifestyle with the right foods and supplements. There are no illegal substances like coke or heroine on my plate. Yes, I'd mentioned the occasional Martinis but that's called social drinking.

From America's p.o.v, I should not exist. I have a job and can maintain my life w/o illicit drugs and self-destructive patterns. But yet, I can see esc*rts in Canada (legally) to satisfy my needs. America cannot deal with this anomaly, however, many societies in Asia, South America, or Europe can.

Rin says

if you see any esc*rts, it's inferred that you also have a drug/alcohol problem.

That's your inference. Apparently you take your 'reality' from a movie and a television show.
Rin says

From America's p.o.v, I should not exist. I have a job and can maintain my life w/o illicit drugs and self-destructive patterns. But yet, I can see esc*rts in Canada (legally) to satisfy my needs. America cannot deal with this anomaly, however, many societies in Asia, South America, or Europe can.

What? You have a rather perverse perspective on how you think others view such things. I'm pretty sure America can handle your very special 'anomaly'. Someone shagging a few hookers (and drug free no less) is hardly going to shake the foundations of your republic. Personally, I just read your posts and think either you're a fantasist or you simply have no game. Or perhaps both.