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I'm Rich You're Hot..The Mathematics Of Sugar Daddy Dating


               
2014 Oct 25, 10:23pm   20,925 views  44 comments

by ohomen171   follow (2)  

In 1998-1999 I was a male client of a very elite dating agency. I shall mention no names. The high-income ladies paid $5,000 each to meet eligible men. There was such a shortage of over-40 males that my $5,000 fee was waived. I met one wonderful lady who was vice-president of a prestigious investment bank. We hit it off and it looked great except she earned $250,000 per year and I earned less than 20% of that income. The income disparity was "a deal killer."
The owner also owned another company that specialized in setting up very affluent older men with women in their 20's looking for "sugar daddies" to care for them. Obviously I was too poor to qualify for this company. But my imagination ran wild thinking about what happened there.
I opened up San Francisco magazine's latest issue. Lo and behold they had a great article: "I'm Rich You're Hot The Cold Mathematics of Sugar Daddy Dating." It's a great work of journalism and quite enlightening.
Obviously poorer younger women seek to interact with much older and affluent men. The men are looking for beautiful and exciting much younger women. It matters little to them that they have to pay for this companionship.
The women profiled in the article range from upscale sex workers to con women and really broke younger women desperately seeking financial help. According to the article sex did not happen as often that one would imagine.
Now all of my fantasies of long ago have met the hard realities of what really happens.
San Francisco magazine you scored a home run with this article!

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6   Oilwelldoctor   2014 Oct 26, 8:09am  

This happens many times a day in places like Angeles City, Philippines, or Phuket Beach Thailand. Call it what you will, prostitution, the sex trade, human trafficking whatever. Only difference is the clientele have less money as Asians are generally less expensive. Many men, and I mean many, wind up marrying their conquests. This is a strange courtship and like the moderator says, men like to brag about their encounters but I suspect it happens much less than they talk. Hilary Clinton is on a tirade to stop the sex trade in the Philippines. She has been unsuccessful and has only driven it underground. Now a young Marine picks up a transsexual and kills him/her because of gender. A 19 year old patriot has ruined his life. If sex were permitted in these places openly as in the past, IMHO this never would have happened.

7   Rin   2014 Oct 26, 8:28am  

turtledove says

Quigley says

Women are genetically programmed to have THEIR OWN best interests in mind. Always.

As opposed to men who are programmed only to consider the best interests of others? Puhlease!

That's right TD, both my dad and my brother-in-law have sacrificed a lot for my sister. You know, the one whom you defended, saying that it was my duty to post up a histrionic/borderline personality disorder, as a good brother. Sorry, but I'm not joining in on that charade, like my dad and my brother-in-law did.

8   Rin   2014 Oct 26, 8:32am  

Oilwelldoctor says

human trafficking

How is an adult taking a bus (or a train), from one part of a country to another, trafficking?

That's like saying that if a grown up Quebecois takes a train/bus from the 'burbs to Montreal downtown, that she was trafficked on her own volition.

There's no comparison between authentic kidnapping and esc*rts, exchanging money for a shag.

9   Strategist   2014 Oct 26, 1:53pm  

debyne says

Very interesting. Is this why my wife is putting out a lot more recently since I've made the executive ranks? I thought it was because she was attracted to me and my success as an individual, but it's really under the auspices of keeping me from finding a newer, faster, better-looking model. I've also noticed the claws come out more and she torpedos other women I interact with if she senses even the remotest threat.

And if you need more sex, just tell her - I need it, I will either get it from you, or from someone else. You decide.
Watch her spread em every time. :)

10   anonymous   2014 Oct 26, 2:55pm  

Strategist says

debyne says

Very interesting. Is this why my wife is putting out a lot more recently since I've made the executive ranks? I thought it was because she was attracted to me and my success as an individual, but it's really under the auspices of keeping me from finding a newer, faster, better-looking model. I've also noticed the claws come out more and she torpedos other women I interact with if she senses even the remotest threat.

And if you need more sex, just tell her - I need it, I will either get it from you, or from someone else. You decide.

Watch her spread em every time. :)

Great point. Funny how the power has shifted.

11   Rin   2014 Oct 26, 9:55pm  

debyne says

I thought it was because she was attracted to me and my success as an individual ... I've also noticed the claws come out more and she torpedos other women

Yep, no surprise there. I've had a lot of attention from women, once I'd switched from engineering (& then IT) to financial services.

The point is that I don't want 'em anymore. I mean it's one thing to be liked/respected when you're trying to make it in the world vs coming in for a *kill*, once a guy's already got his pot of gold.

12   anonymous   2014 Oct 27, 12:28am  

Rin says

Yep, no surprise there. I've had a lot of attention from women, once I'd switched from engineering (& then IT) to financial services.

The point is that I don't want 'em anymore. I mean it's one thing to be liked/respected when you're trying to make it in the world vs coming in for a *kill*, once a guy's already got his pot of gold.

Definitely. It's really sad in a way how my interaction with women has changed as I get older and richer. It's kinda like how strippers pay all this attention to you and you start to believe they really want you because they're so good at it, but then you have to take a step back and remember that they only want your wallet.

13   Rin   2014 Oct 27, 12:40am  

debyne says

It's kinda like how strippers pay all this attention to you

Strippers are ok, as it's a part of the show. And the show must go on.

debyne says

It's really sad in a way how my interaction with women has changed as I get older and richer.

This is the part which I find, irritating, as time goes by. I mean, really, when they start to put on this act of being mature, cultured, and warm, it's more or less, a self-delusion to both, prop up their low self-esteems as well as to con men out of their hard earned capital.

14   Shaman   2014 Oct 27, 12:45am  

Strippers are a useless waste of time and money. Wish I'd figured that out before I turned 25. One piece of advice I'll be passing along to my son: "NEVER under any circumstances whatsoever should you date a stripper." I don't care if she says she loves you and she appears to have a heart of gold. She's a conniving birch in sheep's clothing and she is only after your resources. Strippers are to other women like tigers are to puddy tats. Both are cats, but tigers are more beautiful and infinitely more deadly.

15   Rin   2014 Oct 27, 1:12am  

Quigley says

I'll be passing along to my son: "NEVER under any circumstances whatsoever should you date a stripper."

First of all, what's all this falling in love and such? It's about the private dance, the boink, and enjoying the show. The fact that she's got a good outward attitude (this is more Quebecois than here) makes for a pleasant situation. When it's over, both parties go their separate ways.

With regular women, they find out about your life and start to invade your space.

16   justme   2014 Oct 27, 1:24am  

Rin says

Yep, no surprise there. I've had a lot of attention from women, once I'd switched from engineering (& then IT) to financial services.

Could you give some concrete examples? Was it at work or outside of work? Did you move to a different physical environment and/or an office with a different gender mix? By all means camouflage as needed, but details would be interesting.

17   Rin   2014 Oct 27, 1:39am  

There's really nothing to say.

Yes, it's outside of work, as I don't even consider getting involved with female co-workers.

But basically, it's any social mixer, gathering, party, or whatever. The women who're *looking*, seem to gravitate towards me. And of course, someone knows someone, so it's not like there isn't gossip about ppl's careers and lifestyles. Remember, I own my own home and can travel at will, though typically, it's for business, as I don't have much free time.

Before, when I was a contractor in IT, there were a sparse number of women interested and I seemed to blend into the scene, without a high level of attention. No one went out of their way, to get close to me, unless I was already dating someone. And then strangely enough, that would peak someone's interest.

But realize, I hadn't dated in three years, so much of what goes on, doesn't impact my life anymore.

18   justme   2014 Oct 27, 3:05am  

Thanks, Rin. It appears that it is mostly the grapevine/gossip effect, then, since presumably you have not changed your outwardly visible lifestyle all that much.

19   anonymous   2014 Oct 27, 3:53am  

Strategist says

She does not want your money. She just wants to borrow your body.

Oh how I'd love to be treated like a piece of meat.

20   Rin   2014 Oct 27, 4:00am  

Strategist says

Some young women are physically attracted to older men.

Yes, but it usually means that it's a short delta between oneself and let's say George Clooney.

21   Rin   2014 Oct 27, 4:07am  

Strategist says

A couple of drinks is all it takes to lose your shyness.

Between Anglo and Latin women, the ratio is three drinks to one.

22   zzyzzx   2014 Oct 27, 4:58am  

Strategist says

She does not want your money. She just wants to borrow your body.

Dear Penthouse Letters....

23   Diva24   2014 Oct 27, 5:18am  

Quigley says

Love means being unselfish enough to value another's happiness above your own

That is not love, that is low self esteem.

24   Heraclitusstudent   2014 Oct 27, 5:29am  

Strategist says

It's not culture guys, it's genetics.

Women are not as good at math, having a sense of direction as men are. I'm not saying they are inferior, they just have a different skill set.

My personal experience is not a statistics.
I've seen women who are really strong at maths, though not many.
But if you're talking of programming, it's easy. You don't need special mental powers to do the job. And women do it - except American women.

25   Rin   2014 Oct 27, 5:44am  

Heraclitusstudent says

I've NEVER seen an American woman work as a programmer here UNLESS a 1st generation American from an Indian or Chinese family.

I think it was roughly 10 years ago, the early years of my career, when I'd seen a few Anglo-American women, working as programmers. Since then, they've only been in DBA, QA, sales, or consulting.

26   Peter P   2014 Oct 27, 5:45am  

They tend to leave you alone if you are not wearing your ring. Somehow crazy women are attracted to married men.

27   Rin   2014 Oct 27, 5:54am  

Diva24 says

Quigley says

Love means being unselfish enough to value another's happiness above your own

That is not love, that is low self esteem

"I'm just a sucker with low self-esteem"
http://www.CkFH0KMO0G0

28   Shaman   2014 Oct 27, 6:08am  

Diva24 says

Quigley says

Love means being unselfish enough to value another's happiness above your own

That is not love, that is low self esteem.

Sociopaths never have self esteem problems. Obviously self esteem isn't a virtuous quality.

29   Rin   2014 Oct 27, 7:06am  

Peter P says

LOL. Love is simply the choice to love. Very circular

Some ppl love the music they write/sing, some love building sculptures, and others, love writing short stories.

I believe that love is something which swells from within.

On the other foot, what goes on between men and women is mainly societal and/or hormonally based types of rituals. By virtue of my scheduled esc*rt visits, I've decoupled that from my daily calendar. And if I invest in a RealDoll, boning will simply be like doing my morning pushups.

30   Shaman   2014 Oct 27, 7:55am  

Rin says, "I believe that love is something which swells "

Okay I have to agree :)

31   Strategist   2014 Oct 27, 1:08pm  

Call it Crazy says

That's changing, though slowly.

Women are now earning 48% of undergraduate college degrees in math.

But in primary and secondary school, girls have caught up, with researchers attributing that advance to increasing numbers of girls taking advanced math classes such as calculus.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5456561

Heraclitusstudent says

My personal experience is not a statistics.

I've seen women who are really strong at maths, though not many.

But if you're talking of programming, it's easy. You don't need special mental powers to do the job. And women do it - except American women.

I still think males are better at math, and women are better at verbal.
I looked up google, only to see a tonne of articles that show the gap has closed. I think they intentionally put out biased articles in huge quantities in an attempt to change perceptions about males being better at math.

32   Strategist   2014 Oct 27, 1:10pm  

Rin says

Some ppl love the music they write/sing, some love building sculptures, and others, love writing short stories.

I believe that love is something which swells from within.

On the other foot, what goes on between men and women is mainly societal and/or hormonally based types of rituals. By virtue of my scheduled esc*rt visits, I've decoupled that from my daily calendar. And if I invest in a RealDoll, boning will simply be like doing my morning pushups.

Rin, can this doll give a real blow job like a real woman can?

33   Rin   2014 Oct 27, 1:20pm  

Strategist says

Rin, can this doll give a real blow job like a real woman can?

Since we're not in the animatronic/A.I. age yet (we're about a decade or so away), you'll have to bob the body, back & forth a little bit. BTW, there's a company working on this issue, as we speak.

RD owners have told me that the suction is phenomenal, so it's a lot more intense than the real thing, since you can't get that in the real world.

34   Strategist   2014 Oct 27, 1:29pm  

Rin says

Strategist says

Rin, can this doll give a real blow job like a real woman can?

Since we're not in the animatronic/A.I. age yet (we're about a decade or so away), you'll have to bob the body, back & forth a little bit. BTW, there's a company working on this issue, as we speak.

RD owners have told me that the suction is phenomenal, so it's a lot more intense than the real thing, since you can't get that in the real world.

hmmmm. A blow job from a robot. Sorry ladies, we don't need you anymore.

35   Rin   2014 Oct 27, 1:36pm  

Strategist says

hmmmm. A blow job from a robot. Sorry ladies, we don't need you anymore.

2025, here I come!

36   Strategist   2014 Oct 27, 2:01pm  

Call it Crazy says

Looks like you made a great choice... She certainly is a keeper!!

*

Thanks for ruining my evening Call Crazy.

37   Peter P   2014 Oct 27, 2:20pm  

Strategist says

hmmmm. A blow job from a robot. Sorry ladies, we don't need you anymore.

That would suck.

38   Strategist   2014 Oct 28, 12:18am  

Call it Crazy says

Thanks for ruining my evening Call Crazy.

Well, she does have a nice set of melons!

If you like your melons, you can keep your melons.
I prefer quality, not quantity.

39   Strategist   2014 Oct 28, 12:23am  

sbh says

Strategist says

Thanks for ruining my evening Call Crazy.

Perhaps now you will have learned that CIC is incapable of distinguishing between his hatred of people and the concepts that inhere in their statements. What he doesn't like is that I am the one who spoke even if he and I share the same thoughts about conjugal love, ergo he undertakes to assail the content of the speech itself. He is small. It overwhelms him. He has to attack without focus because his perspective is indiscriminate. If it matters to you, a little distance would help distinguish you from him, but that's up to you.

I would not take anyone too seriously on the net, especially Patnet.

40   Rin   2014 Oct 28, 1:00am  

Strategist says

I prefer quality, not quantity.

I want both, hence, the RealDoll for the USA ...

High end esc*rts, elsewhere ...

41   Strategist   2014 Oct 28, 1:07am  

Rin says

Strategist says

I prefer quality, not quantity.

I want both, hence, the RealDoll for the USA ...

If you want both, you could have a wife for regular sex instead of a plastic doll, and escorts when you go on business trips.

42   Rin   2014 Oct 28, 1:11am  

Strategist says

you could have a wife for regular sex instead

Yuck! Within 6 mos to a year, it'll be a bunch of brickerings about the upholstery, the cooking/cleaning, and on and on. Soon, the at-home banging will end and it'll be like living under house arrest.

Instead, I want to wake up in the morning, knock off some 60-70 pushups, bang the doll, take a shower, and head out to the office. Now that's productivity!

Strategist says

escorts when you go on business trips

And vacations, as well.

43   Strategist   2014 Oct 28, 1:16am  

Rin says

Strategist says

escorts when you go on business trips

And vacations, as well.

Those vacations would be like a honeymoon. :)

44   Rin   2014 Oct 28, 4:16am  

Strategist says

Rin says

Strategist says

escorts when you go on business trips

And vacations, as well.

Those vacations would be like a honeymoon. :)

It was a long time ago, but like a lot of guys, I used to think that girlfriend boinking was the *end all* in life. But then, after college, once I started seeing international esc*rts, my worldview changed.

And finally, 3 years ago, after breaking up with the Canadian, it was over; I couldn't see any merit in dating women, settling down, etc, ever again. It was like a veil was removed. I simply liked to boink and relationships had nothing to do with it.

I'd bought an exercise bike some time ago. I still use it all the time, for indoor cardio, and I wouldn't call that a relationship. Thus, I don't have to worry about the weather outside, so it's cut back on my jogging and having to go to a gym. I think the RealDoll could become the home exercise equipment for boinking. It cuts back on meaningless relationships, dating, and it puts a soft cap on the annual international esc*rting bill.

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