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marcus says

There's something wrong with our media and a significant part of our population, when given all the legitimate problems we have, the biggest of which are about conflicts of interest between the people versus the corporations and the plutocrats, and what's your focus ?

Homosexuality is a legitimate problem, just like drug abuse, alcohol abuse, crime, and homelessness, etc...

As the childs parent, I would think you would have said:
"We never traveled with OUR child, without a packet of documentation.
Using "This" seems pretty cold hearted.
Your Freudian slip just gave credence to the thread thesis as to how liberals look at and classify children.

Vicente says

You never know when some harmless activity is going to result in a policeman thinking that's not your child. We never travelled with this child, without a packet of documentation.

lostand confused says

Hmm, if a guy has a harem of four wives-wouldn't they have a wild orgy every night??

I would.

FortWayne says

marcus says

There's something wrong with our media and a significant part of our population, when given all the legitimate problems we have, the biggest of which are about conflicts of interest between the people versus the corporations and the plutocrats, and what's your focus ?

Homosexuality is a legitimate problem, just like drug abuse, alcohol abuse, crime, and homelessness, etc...

Why are you so concerned about what 2 consenting adults do behind closed doors? This is what I hate about religious people...shoving what they think is right down someone else's throat. All you need is another crazy religion with opposing views, and voila, everyone killing each other in the name of their favorite God.
This is the biggest reason why I am 70% librul.

Strategist says

Why are you so concerned about what 2 consenting adults do behind closed doors? This is what I hate about religious people...shoving what they think is right down someone else's throat. All you need is another crazy religion with opposing views, and voila, everyone killing each other in the name of their favorite God.

This is the biggest reason why I am 70% librul.

Because they don't do it just behind closed doors, they talk about it in the media, they promote their lifestyle in the media. They have their gay pride parades. And that affects children, who copy everything they see.

I wouldn't care if they didn't try to shove their gay crap onto everyone every time they run a parade or every time there is an election.

SoftShell says

As the childs parent, I would think you would have said:

"We never traveled with OUR child, without a packet of documentation.

Using "This" seems pretty cold hearted.

Your Freudian slip just gave credence to the thread thesis as to how liberals look at and classify children.

I am being factual. We have other children. The one who is not biologically ours and doesn't look like us, is treated differently by society. Nobody ever sidled up and said about the son who could be my clone "hey, what country is he from?" or "how much did he cost?" or "he's so lucky!" or "hey our neighbors adopted a kid from Guatemala, what's his story?" or "Foster care eh? Was it drugs or abuse?". Never at an airport or any other official encounter have I been asked to explain my legal relationship to a bio-kid.

People in the foster/adopted community particularly those who do transracial, see a lot of things you don't. It takes some extra determination and patience some days.

lostand confused says

Hmm, if a guy has a harem of four wives-wouldn't they have a wild orgy every night??

Clearly you are unfamiliar with female biology in close quarters. Two or more women living together, will synchronize their cycles. Retreat to the man-cave for at least a week.

FortWayne says

Strategist says

Why are you so concerned about what 2 consenting adults do behind closed doors? This is what I hate about religious people...shoving what they think is right down someone else's throat. All you need is another crazy religion with opposing views, and voila, everyone killing each other in the name of their favorite God.

This is the biggest reason why I am 70% librul.

Because they don't do it just behind closed doors, they talk about it in the media, they promote their lifestyle in the media. They have their gay pride parades. And that affects children, who copy everything they see.

I wouldn't care if they didn't try to shove their gay crap onto everyone every time they run a parade or every time there is an election.

Isn't that exactly what Christians do....shove their crap onto everyone else? I have never met a gay who tried to make me gay, but I do meet Christians trying to make me a God fearing Christian.
I do get grossed out by gay men smooching, but I don't remember the last time I saw it. But making it sound like "Gay" is some kind of a disease is just silly.
Live and let live.

Vicente says

lostand confused says

Hmm, if a guy has a harem of four wives-wouldn't they have a wild orgy every night??

Clearly you are unfamiliar with female biology in close quarters. Two or more women living together, will synchronize their cycles. Retreat to the man-cave for at least a week.

I heard about women living together will have their cycles synchronized, but I think that theory was scientifically disproven.

FortWayne says

justme says

Dan8267 says

Women are a lot more flexible when it comes to having short-term homosexual liaisons.

Mostly for reasons of vanity.

They are just messed up mentally somewhere. Screws loose.

Leave it to Fort Wayne to soil a beautiful thing.

Strategist says

I think that theory was scientifically disproven.

Would that even matter to you? Since when do conservatives give a rat's ass about scientific facts? Climate change much?

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

I think that theory was scientifically disproven.

Would that even matter to you? Since when do conservatives give a rat's ass about scientific facts? Climate change much?

Yeah, can you believe it? Those libruls don't even know the earth is 6,000 years old. Who taught them to count?
What climate change? It's the same as yesterday.

Give me a break. They paid for a service and the sperm bank screwed up. It is the sperm bank's job to be VERY careful about these things, as there's kind of a no-return policy on the product in question. The couple has every right to be pissed at the apparent sloth that exists at that sperm bank. That doesn't mean that they love the baby they do have any less.

turtledove says

The couple has every right to be pissed at the apparent sloth that exists at that sperm bank.

I think the couple is more pissed off that they didn't get the genes they wanted. Women are very picky when they go to a sperm bank. It's not an altruistic en-devour. They are literally shopping for genes.

Basically, they want a hunk with a high IQ, great immune system, longevity, has blue eyes and blonde hair, and someone who is rich,
1. So that the child can get some inheritance, financial help when he's an adult.
2. Because of the belief that how well a person does financially is partly determined by genetics.

Certainly, any woman going to a sperm bank cares very much about the genes of the biological father, and that includes traits regarding appearance.

Danish sperm now makes up a third of the total used in the UK

For many, the Danes' handsome blue-eyed, blonde looks and 'dependable natures' are just as attractive.

'The blonde hair and the blue eyes appeal,' laughs one mother who conceived with the help of a Danish clinic. 'The cheekbones as well I think!'

Meanwhile no one wants a ginger kid

Sperm bank can’t find takers for red-haired genes

http://www.KVN_0qvuhhw

In any case, sperm donation is purely gene consumerism with all the biases that come with it. If that sounds despicable, just remember that people do the exact same gene shopping when they decide who they are going to fuck and not, and when they use contraception or not.

Bias for physical traits is 99% of sexual behavior in human beings whether it's done through traditional monogamy or sperm donation or even artificially constructed genomes. Every person wants his or her kids to have an advantage over -- a nice way of saying dominating over -- other people's kids. Would be parents don't want any kind of equality. They want superiority. Sperm banks just make this easier to obtain than competing for a genetically superior mate.

There is nothing noble about parenthood. Not its goals. Not its practices. Not even its intentions.

turtledove says

The couple has every right to be pissed at the apparent sloth that exists at that sperm bank. That doesn't mean that they love the baby they do have any less.

No of course not but if "Sensitivity Issues" are shoved down the white male's throats and what it and isn't appropriate can change by the tweet. Then you better damn well believe that is very inappropriate for a Lesbian couple to bitch about the race of their lab baby. Otherwise it would seem like we're all on this crazy thrill ride of perversion at Whitties expense!

turtledove says

Give me a break. They paid for a service and the sperm bank screwed up. It is the sperm bank's job to be VERY careful about these things, as there's kind of a no-return policy on the product in question. The couple has every right to be pissed at the apparent sloth that exists at that sperm bank. That doesn't mean that they love the baby they do have any less.

The sperm bank has caused unforgivably permanent damage, due to sheer negligence.
The mother will love the child, but they must be held liable. That kid is probably the worlds luckiest kid. Gets to be born, and now might get his college all paid for.

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turtledove says

Give me a break.

Well, one of them is pissed.....

Dan8267 says

I think the couple is more pissed off that they didn't get the genes they wanted.

Dan8267 says

In any case, sperm donation is purely gene consumerism with all the biases that come with it. If that sounds despicable, just remember that people do the exact same gene shopping when they decide who they are going to fuck and not, and when they use contraception or not.

Why would that even sound despicable to anyone. Having likes and dislikes is one of the driving forces of evolution.