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Dan8267
2016 Jun 21, 11:30am
Nothing on this site is censored by Patrick except:
- threats
- child porn
- spam
- copyright violations (upon notice)
- personally identifying information
You lie! I have it on good authority that redirecting troll's threads to goat porn websites via JavaScript injection is in fact censored! Stop censoring JavaScript. Scripting is free speech!
Patrick
2016 Jun 21, 8:24pm
Patrick, just a thought...
For new posts, have you considered changing the order of the title and the image when using cell-phone?
It just seems intuitively, I would prefer to read the title then see the related image, and not vice-versa?
@BayArea yes, it's a good idea, but i have not been able to get that to work on mobile devices. the formatting goes badly wrong if i try to put the image after the title.
maybe if you know css/html you can figure out a method that works and show me. you could just use the browser developer tools to change things around, or save the page and muck with it statically.
Dan8267
2016 Jul 22, 10:49am
maybe if you know css/html you can figure out a method that works and show me. you could just use the browser developer tools to change things around, or save the page and muck with it statically.
The trick is to use the @media css tag to override styles based on width breakpoints. I threw together a JS Fiddle. I've only tested it in Firefox though. No bets on I.E. I never use that browser.
Patrick
2016 Jul 26, 7:56am
that was done with a url like this: https://www.y outube.com/v/chElHV99xak?start=53&end=59
i put the space in the url to break it so it wouldn't actually get converted.
I was following the first paragraph until I came to "clear critical thought."
We'll not be having any of that shit!
And apparently it's not a problem.
Dan8267
2016 Aug 1, 8:04am
@Patrick, what's with all the spammers? Have they broken the captcha you are using? Maybe it's time to switch to another.
Chances are these spammers aren't targeting PatNet specifically, but rather have bots that target common platforms like PHP. Maybe a simple speed bump in which the user has to play a little "guitar hero" game with arrow keys to register a username.
marcus
2016 Aug 5, 2:15am
If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea offensive or disagreeable.
--Justice William Brennan, speaking for the majority
Maybe you should add something along the lines of:
We also have some free thinkers on this forum that understand that an idea being offensive or politically incorrect does not in and of itself make it good.
Patrick
2016 Aug 5, 11:41am
an idea being offensive or politically incorrect does not in and of itself make it good
also true.
Dan8267
2016 Aug 11, 7:31am
Google should have a public way of hurting the page rank of spammers. If someone spams a forum, send the link to Google to reduce the advertised website's page rank. Granted, we'd have to deal with saboteurs, but the benefits would outweigh this cost.
Patrick
2016 Aug 11, 4:31pm
Ah fuck. Yes, I did make some changes this morning.
It looks like the "quote" function isn't posting the name of the poster quoted,
Quote thing seems to work ok for me.
Please tell me which threads with long titles are not found!
Patrick
2016 Aug 11, 7:27pm
OK, made a little progress. It seems to happen on Safari, but not Chrome. At least I have a starting point to look at.
Patrick
2016 Aug 11, 7:41pm
Hmmm, confusing because I didn't change anything about the code that does that stuff:
https://github.com/killelea/patrick.net/blob/master/html/functions.php#L2217
Patrick
2016 Aug 11, 8:27pm
OK, I think it's fixed now. Quotes should always have "(user) says" in them. Thanks for telling me about that.
Trying from my phone (Droid), doesn't quote the name either.
Patrick
2016 Aug 12, 11:07am
@Ironman you're right.
That is also fixed now.
Please tell me more bugs and suggestions.
Patrick
2016 Aug 12, 2:06pm
Hey wait, when did I become your technical guinea pig? :)
When you started volunteering. Thanks!
Patrick
2016 Sep 29, 9:56am
If you want to write a post totally anonymously, just enter it while logged out, and when it asks for an email address put in some crap email like this@that.com. The post will go into moderation and I'll get notified that it needs approval. There's a delay for approval, but then your post is anonymous.
BayArea
2016 Sep 29, 10:09am
Patrick, just curious...
What server are you using for this site?
Your own private server, third party domestic server, third party international server, Hillary's private server?
Patrick
2016 Sep 29, 10:40am
It's a single virtual server on Digital Ocean. So essentially my own private server. I'm happy with them, much more pleasant to use than AWS:
Dan8267
2016 Sep 29, 2:28pm
If you want to write a post totally anonymously, just enter it while logged out, and when it asks for an email address put in some crap email like this@that.com. The post will go into moderation and I'll get notified that it needs approval. There's a delay for approval, but then your post is anonymous.
Or just use an alt like every other troll. Do people really need more anonymity than an account not at all associated with your real identity anyway?
Your site is being perused and critiqued by the dreg cohort of the finest e-biz board within the Web, (redacted link)
indigenous
2017 Jan 15, 10:36am
If I make a new post and it drifts down the list it disappears.
IOW the posts do not appear to be in chronological order?
Example: HEY YOU comes back as HEY20YOU if you click on his user name.
I'm insulted! It should be HEY100%YOU!
Patrick
2017 Jan 15, 11:11am
If I make a new post and it drifts down the list it disappears.
IOW the posts do not appear to be in chronological order?
By default they are in chronological order of activity (creation or new comment), and you eventually have to go to the second page to see a post if no one has commented on it lately.
But there are tabs for sorting other ways: number of comments in last week, number of likes, newest post creation time.
justme
2017 Jan 16, 11:02am
Has there been any discussion recently of of username histories? I do find it laborious and confusing with all the people that change their names. Another problem with changing usernames is that old posts are harder to understand since the user is now known by a different name.
Hmm, I wonder if I edit and put @patrick in after the fact, will he still get an email?
Patrick
2017 Jan 16, 11:07am
Hi @justme yes, I got an email when you edited and put that in.
Should there be some limit on the ability to change usernames? It does get confusing when they get quoted under one name, but have since changed it so that the old quote and new comments appear under different names.
Dan8267
2017 Jan 16, 11:28am
This site was a lot better when all of CIC's post were redirected to his goat porn collection.
justme
2017 Jan 16, 11:57am
Should there be some limit on the ability to change usernames?
I think one username ever per email address is a good idea. By the way, are you as admin able to retrace the changes of usernames? I history of usernames on the user "homepage" is work but would be very informative.
Patrick
2017 Jan 16, 12:07pm
I cannot easily trace changes of username, because the previous name is overwritten in the database when a user changes it.
It would be possible to trace some name changes by looking at quotes of user comments, but it would be a lot of work, and still not reliable because the quotes could be edited at any time. I suppose I have backups and could look at the state of the database over time, but that would also be hard.
It would be easier to create a new table of names which shows changes over time from now on. Is it worth the work?
What does gmail do? Can you change your gmail address and retain the same account?
WookieMan
2018 Feb 2, 9:23pm
How about just banning users who get paid to post here with manufactured talking points from organizations such as ShareBlue?
I just looked up ShareBlue. I don't really care about left or right. I don't believe that was your point, but who knows. I do actually agree with the sentiment though. I know it probably happens a ton, but straight up copy pasting from an article without sourcing it is not cool. I wouldn't ban these people, but if you cannot come up with original comments or commentary on an article, just stop. At some point you'll see the puppet strings attached to your fingers as you're typing.
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I got the patrick.net domain name back in 1995 when I was one day too late for patrick.com. Missing the .com name turned out to be fine. I prefer the .net name now because life is all about human networks. This site was just my personal blog from 1995 to 2004.
In 2004 I started writing about the housing bubble, which catapulted the site to national fame for a while. I was interviewed on NPR, on Nightline on TV, and in other corporate media that I have since learned to recognize as poison. Here are my original the articles about the housing bubble (the dates on them are much later because I updated them):
https://patrick.net/post/1282720/2015-07-11-ten-reasons-it-s-a-terrible-time-to
https://patrick.net/post/1282721/2015-07-11-eight-groups-who-lie-about-the-housing
https://patrick.net/post/1282722/2015-07-11-37-bogus-arguments-about-housing
The big housing bubble popped in 2008, and traffic fell, since it was no longer controversial to assert that we really had had a housing bubble.
About then, I decided to just let the public discuss other topics with each other and wrote my own forum software. I'm a programmer, so that was fun. At first I was kind of disturbed at the number of conservatives on the site, but as I discussed things with them and saw San Francisco literally turn to shit under far-left Democrat extremists, I changed my thinking.
And yet I didn't change my thinking all that much, because once again, I'm opposing corruption of government by the oligarchy. Before, my enemy was the NAR (National Association of Realtors) and I still think the NAR is nothing but institutionalized crime, but there are bigger fish to fry now, especially since the worldwide campaign to inject every human with a dangerous and ineffective genetic experiment, which was never approved by the FDA. (They approved "Comirnaty", which is not available, to deceive the public.)
https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/thinking-points-september-21-2022
I could go on, but you'll get the idea by reading the site.
I have a platform of ideas for improving America: https://patrick.net/post/1303173/2017-02-19-patrick-s-platform
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