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oh come on. definitely an 8 in this photo, and i'm not even into blondes.

I was low balling just because the media makes her look better than she is. You are right Patrick.

oh come on. definitely an 8 in this photo, and i'm not even into blondes.

Can we be honest here. She is a "9"
Beauty Brains Money Success and Fame. What more could a guy want.

he is taller, darker, and a VC. so he probably gets some credit for that. but does he got hot sex with marissa? unclear.

I would think so. If not, I'm always there to fill in the gaps.
She would not have married him otherwise. I'm sure they had sex before making a commitment.

Rin says

Here's an example of an '8' or even a '9'. She's a lingerie model, who also did some escorting ...

Flawless, tanned skin, physically fit, and was even a Pilates instructor.

You have no appreciation of beauty Rin. She is a "9.9"
By the way, what did she cost you?

Strategist says

You have no appreciation of beauty Rin. She is a "9.9"

By the way, what did she cost you?

Look, Strategist, even I've got to admit defeat. This woman will never be my *significant other* and thus, I'd rather see her as a 8-9 than a perfect 10. And yes, she was beyond awesome in the sack.

As far as comparisons to Marissa, give it up. Marissa is a classic social climber, "corporate BS" artist, In contrast, my Canadian supergal, is the real deal, the perfect blend of culture and beauty. That gal will be settled with a very successful rich guy, eclipsing my paltry payout from this hedge fund.

And her rate, over time, averages to $250/hr, however, she's got a $400 hour minimum, for those who only want a single hour, to weed out the bozos from the real ones.

Rin says

And her rate, over time, averages to $250/hr, however, she's got a $400 hour minimum, for those who only want a single hour, to weed out the bozos from the real ones.

An hour is all I need. After that I roll over and let her sleep on the wet spot. :)

Strategist says

An hour is all I need. After that I roll over and let her sleep on the wet spot. :)

Actually Strategist, you're wrong. This woman will set your world on fire.

She'll not only satisfy those primal desires but also, awaken aspects of yourself, you didn't know earlier. You'll want to travel the world, make love under the Pyramids, the Great Wall of China, and all that jazz.

When I was with her, I knew that she was stirring those feelings inside me, and thus, I'd kept it crisp, And didn't let the association grow, over time.

Since I wasn't the richest guy in America, I'd sensed that there was an end date to this stuff.

Rin says

Actually Strategist, you're wrong. This woman will set your world on fire.

She'll not only satisfy those primal desires but also, awaken aspects of yourself, you didn't know earlier. You'll want to travel the world, make love under the Pyramids, the Great Wall of China, and all that jazz.

Oh God. I need her, Rin. I need her now.

Rin says

When I was with her, I knew what she was stirring those feelings inside me, and thus, I'd kept it crisp, And didn't let the association grow, over time.

Since I wasn't the richest guy in America, I'd sensed that there was an end date to this stuff.

I'm disappointed in you. You could have made it last till then.

Strategist says

Oh God. I need her, Rin. I need her now.

Believe me, I had her and I know.

Strategist says

I'm disappointed in you. You could have made it last till then.

Hey, what am I suppose to do? That woman can have ... anyone she wants. And really, anyone, not some average Joe from Boston.

At most, I'm just another six figure income guy to her, in terms of building a long term portfolio. She's better off, with a guy whose already got a 7-10 figure portfolio going on.

Strategist says

he is taller, darker, and a VC. so he probably gets some credit for that. but does he got hot sex with marissa? unclear.

I would think so. If not, I'm always there to fill in the gaps.

She would not have married him otherwise. I'm sure they had sex before making a commitment.

maybe he's just a toy, someone to show off, but that she's not really into.

maybe he's just a toy, someone to show off, but that she's not really into.

And isn't that a big piece of the problem?

That Canadian, being both, hotter than Marissa and plus, very cultured and worldly, is a far better long term GF/wife to a rich VC, than a typical social climbing corporate type like Marissa?

In the end, the divorce rate doesn't change, ppl break up, all of the time. The difference is if the VC was with the Canadian, his life would actually be rather interesting, than in just hearing about the complaints of the day at work. I don't believe that Marissa, is that much of a conversationalist.

@turtledove
The problem with intelligent women is that they can only be truly fascinated by intelligent men with decent looks. The hot women of intelligence are even more difficult to attract, as they will further require a man to be a good prospect for earnings, physically fit, and tall. That's pretty intimidating to 95% of the men out there, and the 5% that meet the criteria are jumped on by every hetero woman who notices them. The rest of us better have something special to offer a woman with such superior genes, especially if she is also educated and motivated to succeed in life.
The tired old cliche of beta male "tricking" alpha female into marriage is a walking disaster when she wakes up and realizes what he really is. Such a superior woman will require a man to continue to be a superior man, or all bets are off.
This rule goes double for rich men.

Quigley says

The tired old cliche of beta male "tricking" alpha female into marriage is a walking disaster when she wakes up and realizes what he really is.

If I'm not mistaken, I'd heard that these alpha females know that the male is a beta and thus, is actually purchasing a slave and not a man. And thus, his job is to be her handyman and general support staffer.

Rin says

If I'm not mistaken, I'd heard that these alpha females know that the male is a beta and thus, is actually purchasing a slave and not a man.

Rin, I'm sure you would not mind being a sex slave of someone you would otherwise be willing to pay $2,000 per hour.

Strategist says

Rin says

If I'm not mistaken, I'd heard that these alpha females know that the male is a beta and thus, is actually purchasing a slave and not a man.

Rin, I'm sure you would not mind being a sex slave of someone you would otherwise be willing to pay $2,000 per hour.

For one, she ain't paying. The man is an indentured servant. His job is to maintain the household, her business contacts, her limo service, her chaperone for formal gatherings, etc. I can't imagine many guys (aside from the full time betas) wanting that, as a lifelong condition.

turtledove says

1) I want the bell of the ball
2) I'm consumed by jealousy when other guys notice her, too

The above is in now way analogous to the original pair of statements by Patrick.

1. "i want the winning guy" (as it always was)
2. "men are all assholes for trying to be the winner" (recent development)

The correct analogy is

1. Men all want the belle of the ball
2. Men think women are all bitches(*) for scheming to become the belle of the ball.

Now that the proper analogy has been established, turtledove, you can see how wrong YOUR original statement is. Also, men do not GENERALLY agree with item 2. Although if men were as unreasonable and morally inconsistent as the majority of women, perhaps they should.

(*) I used the generally approved substitute for "asshole", namely "bitch". Although I think it may be time to start changing that practice.

turtledove says

1) I want a woman who is smart and challenges me
2) Her intelligence and ability to articulate ideas emasculates me

Correct version:

1) I want a woman who is smart (not one that challenges what is obviously correct)
2) Women who overestimate their intelligence are annoying, even more so than men, because such women so often back up their hubris with claims of sexism against any man that dares disagree with their thoughts.

justme says

1) I want a woman who is smart (not one that challenges what is obviously correct)

I think my blurp on the Canadian model is actually what an intelligent person is, w/o the Gloria Steinem attitude.

Rin says

. she had quite a bit going for her as she taught Pilates, did some nutritional counseling, edited for a magazine, was well read (plus *London University educated*), and was witty, sweet, and nice. She was an urban chic girl-next-door type.

Rin says

Here's the thing, she's not just eye candy. When she'd visited Boston, prior to meeting me, the thing she was interested in seeing was the Boston Architectural Institute, not shopping at Saks 5th in downtown. Sure, she shops around but that's not the point. Also, she knew about the famous art heist at the Stewart Museum back in '90. She even showed me a Pilates move, for beginners, which didn't tax the lower back. She even knew what the best brand of red wine extract capsule there was in the USA.

These are all minor things but for a guy, who's used to hearing mundane things, it was rather refreshing. I can't see an intelligent and wealthy man not falling for her.

justme says

2. Men think women are all bitches(*) for scheming to become the belle of the ball.

Two Dudes, wearing same shirt: "Dude, you like Metallica too? Awesome!!! METAL MILITIA!!!"

Two Gals, wearing the same shoes: "What a bitch!"

to be honest, the older i get the more i appreciate "older" women as long as they are younger than i am!

Then I suggest following my scientific formula for choosing the age of your partner.

Let's face it. The perfect woman is Taylor Swift: beauty, brains, talent, personality, everything's awesome about her. Unfortunately there is only one of her. That's why I support human cloning.