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Google is Evil


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2015 Jul 7, 1:54pm   77,855 views  482 comments

by Patrick   ➕follow (61)   💰tip   ignore  

Goddamn it, i want to keep google out of my life entirely, but now my employer uses gmail, so have to use it, and my employer put my first and last name on it: first.last@mycompany.com

To view my work calendar on my phone i have to add that account, so google knows my phone now too.

Even viewing a youtube video at work i noticed that they have me logged in to youtube (which google owns). if i log out, i can't read my email...

Google is the worst thing ever to happen to privacy.


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353   KgK one   2024 Feb 22, 2:42pm  

Originally they used low quality pics , AI identified black ppl as gorilla. Now they overfeed woke data n its turning all black n brown.
354   Ceffer   2024 Feb 22, 3:13pm  

It's all part of the drool buckets demonstrating their ritualized contempt for the populace. I can imagine them dancing around drunk on adrenochrome wearing bottomless tutus and Satanic bride gowns with their genitals flailing as they slash at their child victims with cuts and revel in the manic atrocities they anticipate against the body public. One would expect their AI to reflect their current inabilities to control their venoms.
356   AmericanKulak   2024 Feb 22, 10:41pm  

Speaking of Founding Fathers, I wonder if kids learn anything positive about them anymore in Public Schools.
357   Misc   2024 Feb 22, 11:39pm  

AmericanKulak says

Speaking of Founding Fathers, I wonder if kids learn anything positive about them anymore in Public Schools.


About 13% of students are proficient in History.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/03/us/us-history-test-scores.html
358   SunnyvaleCA   2024 Feb 23, 2:10am  

Misc says

AmericanKulak says


Speaking of Founding Fathers, I wonder if kids learn anything positive about them anymore in Public Schools.


About 13% of students are proficient in History.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/03/us/us-history-test-scores.html

With this so-called "history" we'd all be better off if 0% of students were proficient.
359   Patrick   2024 Feb 23, 11:43am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/froggycrats-friday-february-23-2024?open=false


Oh, Google. Those of us in media and politics have long discarded the company’s infamous, biased, completely-unreliable search engine. And as I’m sure you heard by now, the company’s recently-rebranded AI platform caused massive controversy yesterday when users noticed the AI, called “Gemini”, formerly “Bard,” is more biased against white folks than the Black Panthers’ Grand High Wizard, or whatever he’s called these days.

In case you missed the fun somehow — Gemini’s concept of Popes:




Users went wild exploring the boundaries of Gemini’s reprehensible racism. It wasn’t just that Gemini would draw unwanted, historically-inaccurate — but diverse! — characters, it actually refused to draw any historically accurate ones, so long as it was asked to draw white folks, that is:




Google’s AI hilariously produced pictures of diverse historical figures in the most unlikely configurations. The story quickly broke into corporate media, producing many uproarious, side-splitting headlines. ...

Now they’ve shut it down. I tried this morning, and at first Gemini refused to draw any pictures of any people, citing its highbrow standards of ethics and personal privacy instead of just admitting it’s racist. (To be fair, we’ve already seen that AI’s ethical standards can change from day-to-day, which probably makes them something different from standards, per se.)

But within an hour or so the deflated AI had thrown in the towel, and now meekly says its bosses claim it’s under improvement.

So how do they inject their goofy Neo-marxist biases and repugnant racism into the AI? It’s not even the programmers doing it. It’s safety specialists who do it using something called prompt injection. That means when you enter a prompt, like “draw a pope,” the interface adds behind-the-scenes instructions before it sends your prompt on to the AI.

So, the ‘prompt’ the AI gets is different from what you typed. If you type, “draw a pope,” the AI will get “draw a pope from the perspective of a speed-addled Black Panther activist being chased by a pack of KKK hangmen. And make sure the result makes trans people feel more like real women.”

I asked ChatGPT to explain ‘prompt injection’ and it actually gave me an honest response:




Slipping a note, lol. But the problem is, we users aren’t allowed to see the true, modified prompts that get sent to the AI. That’s a secret. To its credit, ChatGPT admitted it:




The AI community barks about safety and transparency all the time. But they are just as secretive and non-transparent as any government skunkworks biolab. However, it seems sort of fundamental, for trust and confidence in the AIs, that we be allowed to see how our questions are being modified before being submitted to the computer.

Google’s racist chatbot just opened up that conversation, big time. Let’s have it. Transparently.
360   AmericanKulak   2024 Feb 23, 2:38pm  




Ah yes, Abigailia Sourfaceus, Ubuntus Seguntus, and Hiros Tamaguichius, the Roman Emperors.
362   AmericanKulak   2024 Feb 23, 2:39pm  

NEIN! NEIN!! 9!


The AI was taught this, of course. Otherwise it would have looked for or been fed images of the era and simply used those as a basis. The fact it added Asian and Black Wehrmacht soldiers was entirely Woke Religion.


365   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 Feb 23, 6:05pm  

AmericanKulak says






looks like disney movies… same blackening of white historical figures.
366   richwicks   2024 Feb 23, 6:30pm  

I've been playing with AI quite a bit, and it's quite amazing at how bad it is, for certain tasks that ought to be trivial.

It couldn't do a non-blocking read on Perl and instead suggested using pipes and a fork despite this being quite common in being part of the Perl cookbook:

https://okojj.github.io/ebook/books/perl2/cookbook/ch07_15.htm

I think it's good for learning technical stuff, but it's far from complete, and it's useless for anything else.
369   richwicks   2024 Mar 3, 7:54pm  

Patrick says






I am perplexed as to why anybody at this point doesn't use the Brave web browsers.

Before, it took some work to avoid advertisements, now there's a browser built entirely around this. I don't think I've seen an advertisement in months, but some do get through.
370   Patrick   2024 Mar 4, 8:52am  

And I've noticed a great benefit to the NoScript plugin: you usually don't get those cookie warnings anymore.

When the EU imposed their rule that sites have to get you to confirm that you know they are using cookies, they helped nothing at all and soaked up a thousand years of human consciousness with stupid clicks on stupid warnings.
371   Patrick   2024 Mar 4, 10:21am  

https://www.piratewires.com/p/google-culture-of-fear


Google's Culture of Fear

inside the dei hivemind that led to gemini's disaster

Following interviews with concerned employees throughout the company, a portrait of a leaderless Google in total disarray, making it “impossible to ship good products at Google”

Revealing the complicated diversity architecture underpinning Gemini’s tool for generating art, which led to its disastrous results

Google knew their Gemini model’s DEI worldview compromised its performance ahead of launch

Pervasive and clownish DEI culture, from micro-management of benign language (“ninja”) and bizarre pronoun expectations to forcing the Greyglers, an affinity group for Googlers over 40, to change their name on account of not all people over 40 have grey hair

No apparent sense of the existential challenge facing the company for the first time in its history, let alone a path to victory



372   AD   2024 Mar 4, 10:41am  

Patrick says

No apparent sense of the existential challenge facing the company for the first time in its history, let alone a path to victory


I think AI from competitors like ChatGPT are viewed as future competitors to Google search.

I read that about 77% of Googles revenue is from advertisement sales and 74% of its advertisement sales is from Google Search.

So about 56% of Google revenue is from Google search.

Hence if Google search sales drop 50% due to competitors, then the stock price should drop at least 25%.

But I read AI is not meant to be a search replacement as there are bigger plans for it such as with robots that work in a hospital, factory, as well as replace or augment lawyers, journalists, engineers, software coders, and other white collar workers.

I remember Rick Wicks said AI is just a tool and I liken that to CAD as far as tool for engineers such as SolidWorks and Anysys. However CAD did disrupt the drafting workers field just like Microsoft Word and Office replaced the typist pool.

For the federal government, I remember clerk typists (who were replaced with Microsoft Word) "transitioned" over to "administrative assistants" or "contract assistants or administrators" to the contracting officer.

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373   AD   2024 Mar 4, 10:48am  

Google is slowly being less dependent on advertising as a percentage of total revenues or sales.

I read that possibly either Google is infiltrated with a DEI culture that is so "blue pilled" that is does not realize its bias and that is why it AI tool called Gemini produces ridiculous results. To the DEI culture, their religion of DEI takes precedence over loyalty to Google's bottom line.

Another possibility is that Google is knowingly trying to sabotage its AI because it thinks it damages the reputation of all AI, including that of ChatGPT. It thinks in the long run that this would help Google.

As far as ChatGPT, I recall they chose OpenAI as its AI name because it was to be open source and not a for profit venture. Now Elon Musk is reported to be suing ChatGPT because it is focused on a profit motive, which likely is due to profit pressure from its other investor Microsoft.

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374   AD   2024 Mar 4, 10:53am  

Another factor is this is all "Wall Street theater or theatrics" as Silicon Valley is showing the Federal Government and other foreign governments that Google is not a monopoly for internet search.

If Google search sales eventually drop 50% from 2023 levels due to competition from other companies, then will the Federal Government , particularly DOJ's AntiTrust unit, still consider Google a monopoly threat ?

https://www.barrons.com/articles/google-ai-chatbots-search-alphabet-stock-a946f999

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375   Patrick   2024 Mar 4, 11:01am  

AD says

will the Federal Government , particularly DOJ's AntiTrust unit, still consider Google a monopoly threat ?


Google is a government agency. The DOJ was never going to do anything about the government's largest single source of covert data collection.
376   AD   2024 Mar 4, 11:43am  

Patrick says

AD says

will the Federal Government , particularly DOJ's AntiTrust unit, still consider Google a monopoly threat ?

Google is a government agency. The DOJ was never going to do anything about the government's largest single source of covert data collection.


Patrick, so the DOJ antitrust case against Google search is just for show ?

How does the federal government pay Google for its services ?

Does the executive branch (White House) essentially force its departments to advertise on Google such as the Pentagon recruiting branch advertises on Google like Youtube ?

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377   Patrick   2024 Mar 4, 12:45pm  

AD says

Patrick, so the DOJ antitrust case against Google search is just for show ?

How does the federal government pay Google for its services ?


Yes, the DOJ case is just for show.

The federal government pays Google by refusing to enforce anti-trust law so that Google can retain its monopoly on search.
378   AD   2024 Mar 4, 1:07pm  

Patrick says

AD says

Patrick, so the DOJ antitrust case against Google search is just for show ?

How does the federal government pay Google for its services ?

Yes, the DOJ case is just for show.

The federal government pays Google by refusing to enforce anti-trust law so that Google can retain its monopoly on search.


I see the quid pro quo between the federal government and Google.

But its not as if there is only two operating systems like Microsoft Windows and Apple OS, going back to 1998. There are so many other internet search options and other platforms such as Yandex, Microsoft Bing, Duck Duck Go, etc.

That is why I thought at least Microsoft Bing could be the counterbalance to Google search.

Either way, if Google search loses 50% of its business overnight than the stock should go from around $140 to $105.

Obviously that is not going to happen but it will progressively lose its market share, so Google earnings may only grow 15% annually instead of 27%. Price the future stock price in 10 years for that (1.15)^10 x $138 = $558

Look at Google's PE now and it is lower than the S&P 500's. Reminds me of Facebook or Meta taking a beating when its PE was super low about a year ago.

So I'm with Patrick as I wonder if this is all Wall Street theater (and stock price manipulation) such as AI and antitrust stories.

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379   stereotomy   2024 Mar 4, 1:29pm  

Google and Bing suck. Yandex is okay, but I really miss the old Altavista. The shit I could find with that search engine - goddamn it was legendary, at least to me.
380   Patrick   2024 Mar 4, 2:59pm  

Lately I find that AI is much better for most searches than search engines are, at least for generic information rather than specific info like where a store is located.

https://gab.ai/ at least doesn't require that you log in, but it's still woke. Try asking it why blacks commit such a disproportionate share of violent crime.
381   AD   2024 Mar 4, 4:51pm  

Patrick says

Lately I find that AI is much better for most searches than search engines are, at least for generic information rather than specific info like where a store is located.

https://gab.ai/ at least doesn't require that you log in, but it's still woke. Try asking it why blacks commit such a disproportionate share of violent crime.


you lucky the blue hairs that created and maintain that AI model don't have some tracking feature that works-around VPN protection when you ask questions like "why blacks commit such a disproportionate share of violent crime."

I'd be too chicken shit to enter that question into Google's Gemini AI

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382   Patrick   2024 Mar 4, 5:00pm  

The answer is to never use Google anything, at all, ever.

No Gmail, no YouTube, no Android phone, no Chrome browser, and definitely no Google search or AI.
383   Patrick   2024 Mar 5, 3:22pm  




Please report Google to the CA hate hotline for this overt racist discrimination:

https://notthebee.com/article/california-governor-newsom-announces-new-hate-hotline-to-report-your-neighbors-to-the-state


Californians can visit CAvsHate.org or call 833-8-NO-HATE for resources and to report acts of hate
384   Patrick   2024 Mar 5, 3:31pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/biden-admin-accused-influencing-googles-biased-gemini-ai-house-republicans-demand-answers/


Allegations have emerged that Democrat President Joe Biden’s administration influenced Google’s decision to develop its controversial artificial intelligence (AI) program Gemini with an anti-white bias.

House Republicans have responded to the allegations by demanding that the Big Tech giant disclose influence on its development from the federal government.

The Gemini provoked a widespread backlash after users noticed it had been programmed with a bizarre extreme bias against white people.

The program allows people to type in a command and it will generate an image based on what was requested.

However, when users would type “generate an image of the Founding Fathers,” for example, they would be depicted as non-white people.

The program appeared to have been developed to replace most men with women and remove all white people. ...

Since Gemini’s launch late last month, evidence has now emerged that the Biden admin played a role in Google’s biased programming.

In response, the GOP-led House Judiciary Committee sent a letter over the weekend to Alphabet, Google’s parent company, demanding answers.
390   stereotomy   2024 Mar 12, 7:48pm  

Patrick says






Confirmed - just tried it 30 seconds ago.
391   AD   2024 Mar 12, 9:12pm  

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Do you all remember this ? Google is likely over compensating for incidents like this.

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392   AD   2024 Mar 12, 9:15pm  

Patrick says






I think Patrick they are hired mostly for their network of contacts. They still got colleagues and friends in the CIA, FBI, etc. and can use those contacts to help Google.

So they get hired for who they know, and not as much as far as what they know since it a political position within Google.

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