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Facing shortage, British sperm bank tells men: 'Prove your worth'


               
2015 Sep 8, 11:13am   4,224 views  18 comments

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http://news.yahoo.com/facing-shortage-british-sperm-bank-tells-men-prove-092435641.html

LONDON (Reuters) - The head of Britain's national sperm bank urged men to prove their manhood and help ease a shortage after the center signed up just nine registered donors in the year since its creation.

"If I advertised saying 'Men, prove your worth, show me how good you are', then I would get hundreds of donors," Laura Witjens, the chief executive, told the Guardian newspaper.

"That's the way the Danish do it. They proudly say, this is the Viking invasion, exports from Denmark are beer, Lego and sperm. It's a source of pride."

Denmark's biggest sperm bank, privately-owned Cryos, said it had more than 450 registered donors and was exporting sperm to more than 80 countries.

The Guardian said the advertising campaign's "superman" theme had a serious message as donors had to have strong sperm for it to survive the freezing and thawing process.

The rigors of this process is one of the reasons the clinic has so few donors after almost a year, Witjens was quoted as saying.

She told the BBC that generally the bank got one registered donor from each 100 enquiries. An approved donor has to come to the clinic twice a week for up to four months and refrain from sex or masturbation for two days before each visit.

Donors receive 35 pounds ($54) per session from the National Sperm Bank, a joint project between the National Gamete Donation Trust and Birmingham Women's Hospital.

"You shouldn't do it for the money, there's really not much in it for that," she told the BBC. "We're literally asking men to come forward ... and to help people to become a family."

Human sperm is on sale from some private companies in Britain for as much as 950 pounds per sample. It is also available for purchase on the Internet.

British regulations on anonymity introduced in 2005 mean that all children conceived as a result of sperm donation have the right at the age of 18 to identifying information about the donor.

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1   Ceffer   2015 Sep 8, 11:49am  

Why don't they just collect scrapings from computer keyboards and screens, they would save a lot of time and money.

I knew guys who were sperm donors in the day. I wouldn't have wished them on any woman, much less for baster babies.

2   turtledove   2015 Sep 8, 12:44pm  

The mistake they made was passing a law that said that when biological kids of donors turn 16 that they would be given information about their donor as well as any potential siblings they might have. This resulted in a spectacular drop in gamete donations in the UK. Taking away the anonymity of the donor would make most people take pause. That's okay. It's been good for clinics in the US. Send us your infertile masses!

http://www.hfea.gov.uk/5526.html

3   lostand confused   2015 Sep 8, 12:50pm  

Wasn't there some location/country that said donors were liable for child support? What if a dude donated 50 times??

4   Ceffer   2015 Sep 8, 12:57pm  

Daddy, Daddy, Mommy and me need money, lots of money! Don't you wuv us?

It's pretty funny when women think their donors are Aryan gods, and instead get children that are their potbellied, bald doctor's or even third world mixed race bangers.

5   justme   2015 Sep 8, 1:25pm  

lostand confused says

Wasn't there some location/country that said donors were liable for child support? What if a dude donated 50 times??

It's similar to that old saying about banks and loans. If you fathered 1 kid, you have got a problem. If you fathered 50 kids, the mothers have a problem.

6   justme   2015 Sep 8, 1:29pm  

Actually I'd like to know what is the likelyhood that a donation results in a child. Is it 1 in a 100 or 1 in 5? Turtledove, can you dish the dirt on the insemination business? There must be all kinds of stuff going on in those places, from daddy doctor substituting his sperm for the supposed donor's, to a bunch of hens at the front desk doing a nudge/wink and telling the ladies which donor to pick from their big black ring binder.

7   Dan8267   2015 Sep 8, 2:01pm  

turtledove says

The mistake they made was passing a law that said that when biological kids of donors turn 16 that they would be given information about their donor as well as any potential siblings they might have.

Exactly. The sperm company makes $1466 per sample, gives the donor a measly $54, and the donor risks financial ruin if the kid or his mother demands child support and college tuition. Oh, and the donor does not get to place physical requirements on would-be recipients. It's a lousy deal for the men.

No wonder only Danish sperm sells. No liability for the donors.

Women who want to get pregnant and can't obtain a husband will just have to risk AIDS and have a one-night stand. The stupid lawmakers should have considered this when passing so many anti-male laws. There's no such thing as safe sex with you are trying to get pregnant.

8   turtledove   2015 Sep 8, 2:50pm  

justme says

Actually I'd like to know what is the likelyhood that a donation results in a child. Is it 1 in a 100 or 1 in 5? Turtledove, can you dish the dirt on the insemination business? There must be all kinds of stuff going on in those places, from daddy doctor substituting his sperm for the supposed donor's, to a bunch of hens at the front desk doing a nudge/wink and telling the ladies which donor to pick from their big black ring binder.

It depends on the method of assisted reproduction and the ovarian age of the female. Donors are screened, of course. So only guys (and gals for that matter) who meet certain parameters are allowed to be donors. That said, the success rates of a regular insemination would be about the same as the success rates per month of the dinner-and-a-movie-general population of young, healthy, fertile people (20%). Now, if you were to go the in vitro route, the success rates are significantly higher. Why? Because we take a whole year's worth of ovulatory cycles and condense them into one. The woman's ovaries are stimulated to produce multiple eggs in one cycle. The eggs are then removed. The eggs are then fertilized with the donor's sperm. The chances of success in this type of cycle (assuming healthy eggs on the part of the female) is around 60% per cycle per embryo without embryo testing and 80% per cycle per embryo with embryo testing. Additional embryos are then frozen for future use.

9   turtledove   2015 Sep 8, 4:35pm  

Okay, I've left work... Now I can check my references...

My bad. I'm completely confusing my ridiculous-child-support-stories. The guy in Mass was a kid who impregnated his babysitter when years after the fact she came after him for c/s. So, the Mass story is the one about the victim of statutory rape being forced to pay support...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/nick-olivas-alleged-rape-victim-_n_5773532.html

The sperm donor story was actually in Kansas. The guy was found on Craigslist and he helped a lesbian couple start their family. No good deed....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/kansas-sperm-donor/

10   Strategist   2015 Sep 8, 6:37pm  

Dan:
"Exactly. The sperm company makes $1466 per sample, gives the donor a measly $54, and the donor risks financial ruin if the kid or his mother demands child support and college tuition. Oh, and the donor does not get to place physical requirements on would-be recipients. It's a lousy deal for the men.

No wonder only Danish sperm sells. No liability for the donors."

Strategist:
There are lots of men who are penniless, who would gladly masturbate for $54.00. Students, drunks, those who just want to spread their seeds.
The sperm bank should advertise in late night TV along with the "get rich quick, ads"

11   Dan8267   2015 Sep 8, 6:53pm  

Ironman says

Strategist says

There are lots of men who are penniless, who would gladly masturbate for $54.00. Students, drunks, those who just want to spread their seeds.


The sperm bank should advertise in late night TV along with the "get rich quick, ads"

How do you think Dan was able to finance college??

And I never thanked your wife for that.

12   turtledove   2015 Sep 8, 6:54pm  

Strategist says

There are lots of men who are penniless, who would gladly masturbate for $54.00. Students, drunks, those who just want to spread their seeds.

The sperm bank should advertise in late night TV along with the "get rich quick, ads"

Females get $6,500 - $10,000 per cycle (that's their cut before agency fees). Granted they subject their bodies to more than you... But, you gents should hold out for more.

13   Strategist   2015 Sep 8, 6:57pm  

Ironman:
"How do you think Dan was able to finance college?? I bet he had a reserved parking place there."

Strategist:
You mean there could be dozens of little Dan's running around? OMG
Now I'm really convinced there is no hope for us.

14   Strategist   2015 Sep 8, 7:05pm  

Turtledove:
"Females get $6,500 - $10,000 per cycle (that's their cut before agency fees). Granted they subject their bodies to more than you... But, you gents should hold out for more."

Strategist:
$54.00 per shot does seem to be a pathetically low amount, but someone around 20 years of age could do it several times a day. Not a bad living for pleasuring yourself or having a girlfriend give you a hand.

15   Dan8267   2015 Sep 8, 7:08pm  

Ironman says

Speaking of which, don't you have a Taylor Swift Youtube video to go wack-off to?

Can't. It seems YouTube is overloaded by your requests for goat sex videos.

16   justme   2015 Sep 15, 5:48pm  

justme says

Actually I'd like to know what is the likelyhood that a donation results in a child. Is it 1 in a 100 or 1 in 5? Turtledove, can you dish the dirt on the insemination business? There must be all kinds of stuff going on in those places, from daddy doctor substituting his sperm for the supposed donor's, to a bunch of hens at the front desk doing a nudge/wink and telling the ladies which donor to pick from their big black ring binder.

Here is another article about a british doctor that treated his 1940s sperm bank as is own personal breeding ground.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/sperm-donation-inside-a-deeply-emotive-world-of-powerful-incentives-polarised-views-and-heated-debates-10498925.html

QUOTE: Barry Stevens, who found out he was donor conceived (DC) when he was 18, discovered through DNA tests that his biological father, Bertold Wiesner, had up to 600 children. Wiesner founded the London Barton clinic in the 1940s, promising to provide sperm donors from “intelligent stock”, and there is evidence to suggest that around two-thirds of the children born to couples using this clinic were his.

See what I mean when I suspected there was a lot of questionable activities going on in sperm banks and fertility clinics?

17   Dan8267   2015 Sep 15, 5:52pm  

zzyzzx says

British sperm bank tells men: 'Prove your worth'

CIC said something similar to horse sperm donators.

18   Dan8267   2015 Sep 15, 5:55pm  

Higher than you can meet.

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