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120K-400K, the higher the more other languages (polyglot) you can or are willing to program in, if you can master functional and procedural programming, the more full-stack you are, the more you have worked with latest technologies and contributed to OSS and the more you know about operational and administration concerns (hardware, clusters etc.).

anonymous says

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/ From here you can access all the cities that are in the system.

Great! I'll take a look!

mell says

120K-400K, the higher the more other languages (polyglot) you can or are willing to program in, if you can master functional and procedural programming, the more full-stack you are, the more you have worked with latest technologies and contributed to OSS and the more you know about operational and administration concerns (hardware, clusters etc.)

Cool. I should have specified, this is for one of my reports and a little confusion on salaries with HR. Obviously, the info above very helpful.

Thanks!

Oh yeah. Any indication that JAVA is on the decline or fallen out of favor? Any downward pressure on wages?

Thanks gang.

Yes it seems java is declining in popularity. The hot thing now is node.js, a framework for server-side javascript. It lets you use the same language for both front and back end.

Thanks! I left out that there is management, sql, lamp in the duties as well.

I'll use some of the sites to get the temperature.

Yes it seems java is declining in popularity. The hot thing now is node.js, a framework for server-side javascript. It lets you use the same language for both front and back end

Cool. But is it like my COBOL and assembly education? I heard those declined but got pricier. Did JAVA?

CL says

Oh yeah. Any indication that JAVA is on the decline or fallen out of favor? Any downward pressure on wages?

Thanks gang.

Java 8 adoption has been super strong (lots of functional goodies), while it has given way to node.js for a while now, node.js is mostly used for fast prototyping or businesses that don't need to scale dramatically while being fast. The large-scale cloud back-ends are mostly written in Java (or Scala) and that will not change (a duck-typed language like js is no good for reliability and debugging in large code-bases). In fact node.js and Java are very complimentary. I see Java (and it's evil twin .NET) ruling the market for the foreseeable future while the language itself becomes less important over time, the frameworks, event-systems and micro-service architectures are what counts, and most of them can be programmed against in most major languages. There is no downward pressure on wages wrt languages, salary is (should be) determined mostly language-agnostic (while it is obviously a plus if you are ployglot).

Thanks for the detailed and thoughtful response.

Any other things you think of, feel free to post it!

I've been working on a xsd form driven system, that dynamically builds the form elements, then use Jquery to post it to xml.
The only development I have to write is the services to retrieve data and post data to the existing systems. That for the last 30 years the IT world would have called legacy systems, as they strived to duplicate the database and form programming work.

JAVA and .NET are has beens, it's all about the DOM on the client side now.

Generics and reflection in the back end and Jquery in the front end.
(I use Jquery synonymously with all JavaScript frameworks)

I call my style squatting on Microsoft. Everything in my web project is just straight up HTML, and any services I build are Restful so don't have to include any web services in my project. You can keep the MVC projects with the convoluted test projects that you've got to massage your application to successfully pass those stupid tests.Calling a service from a Jquery Ajax call is all the test you need. The damn thing either works or it doesn't. And the ridiculous entity framework, and bloated ASP.NET keep that shit too.
Throw all of that shit away. Microsoft would be a more respected platform. If people realized underneath all of that Cartoon bullshit there's a real web server running.

Thanks Cap'n.

anonymous says

Try the San Francisco or Silicon Valley Business times, there are jobs listed on the right hand side and when I typed "salary" in the search box, this is the first one that came up and it was for a Senior JavaScript Developer at 130-160K.

That seems low for the SF area to me. I mean, I can get that around here.