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Race is Real


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2015 Dec 27, 9:56am   43,768 views  171 comments

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http://time.com/91081/what-science-says-about-race-and-genetics/

A longstanding orthodoxy among social scientists holds that human races are a social construct and have no biological basis. A related assumption is that human evolution halted in the distant past, so long ago that evolutionary explanations need never be considered by historians or economists.


It's nice that there is actually some pushback stating the obvious. not only is race very real and right in front of your eyes every day, the science has advanced to the point where you can spend $100 at https://www.23andme.com/ and be told your racial composition quite accurately.

The denial of race is one more aspect of PC-conformity which demands you ignore what you actually see and suppress your anti-PC thoughts. sure, once again the sentiment is laudable (acknowledging the existence of race might lead to deterministic thinking about race) but we should put the truth above sentiment.

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163   HeadSet   2024 Sep 27, 7:53pm  

Patrick says

the different races have different average aptitudes and inclinations, as well as different propensity to diseases

True, but not really useful outside of medicine. For example, it is a waste of resources to test Nordics for sickle cell anemia. Other than such physical matters, each individual has his/her own distinct aptitudes, inclinations, and propensities.
164   GNL   2024 Sep 27, 8:25pm  

HeadSet says

Patrick says


the different races have different average aptitudes and inclinations, as well as different propensity to diseases

True, but not really useful outside of medicine. For example, it is a waste of resources to test Nordics for sickle cell anemia. Other than such physical matters, each individual has his/her own distinct aptitudes, inclinations, and propensities.

We’re talking group averages. It’s telling.
165   HeadSet   2024 Sep 28, 6:48am  

GNL says

We’re talking group averages. It’s telling.

No doubt it is "telling," but what use is it, other than the evil of putting individuals from "underrepresented" groups into unearned positions?
166   Patrick   2024 Sep 28, 7:26am  

The biggest advantage from admitting the obvious fact that race is very real would be the calm acceptance of inevitable disparities in outcomes instead of blaming them all on "oppression" and imposing truly racist and unworkable plans to end that "oppression".

Perhaps even more important would be a newfound respect for provable truth above leftist ideology. What we have now is a hysterical suppression of biological reality mostly because it makes blue-haired Karens feel bad.

And there are other advantages. There might be funding to study the real reasons why black people are an order of magnitude more violent on average, or why Asians do well in engineering, etc. OK, some of it may be cultural, but to claim the genetic component is never significant is obviously false. Evolution did not magically stop 50,000 years ago.
167   stereotomy   2024 Sep 28, 8:56am  

Patrick says

Note that I'm not ascribing value to any race, only stating the facts:

- race is real, just like breeds of dog are real
- the different races have different average aptitudes and inclinations, as well as different propensity to diseases

The denial of facts to conform to the woke agenda prevents us from solving real problems, causing needless suffering for everyone.

Yes - the fact that we can't have a rational discussion about this to disentangle "nature vs. nurture" is yet another part of the globohomo divisionary plan. @Wookieman can definitely weigh in on this.

Globohomo wants to equate "acknowledge differences" with Huxley's "Brave New World," where humans are "bottle grown" into various mental classes, worship the "Great Ford," the inventor of mass production, and are all regular users of "Soma," the perfect soporific drug. This is actually the great gaslighting.

It sounds incongruous, but isn't that what glolbohomo is doing? They claim that they can create synthetic societies to replace what has gone before to maximize the influence of globohomo - control the (admittedly cowardly and weak) thinking middle class (the Betas), create vast class of illegal and underpaid labor (the Gammas), while the self appointed ruling class (the Alphas) run the show.
168   AmericanKulak   2024 Sep 28, 11:27am  

One big reason for Globohomo: Males Save, Women Spend.

By the 60s there was such an explosion of owning assets the upper class freaked out. How to get them to spend, not save and buy assets? Take away men's control of family money.
169   Patrick   2024 Sep 28, 5:59pm  

That's an interesting idea I had not heard. The upper class prefers the rest of us to spend and stay poor, and that's also less competition for the assets that can provide an income.
170   HeadSet   2024 Sep 28, 7:07pm  

Patrick says

The upper class prefers the rest of us to spend and stay poor, and that's also less competition for the assets that can provide an income.

And that spending is their source of income.
171   AmericanKulak   2024 Sep 28, 7:54pm  

Patrick says

That's an interesting idea I had not heard. The upper class prefers the rest of us to spend and stay poor, and that's also less competition for the assets that can provide an income.

Yep.

Whenever I hear "Great Reset" and it's focus on renting everything from housing to appliances to total dependence on centralized transport, I think of this.

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