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MisdemeanorRebel
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2016 Feb 16, 8:54am
Calling out W's bullshit hasn't hurt Trump much:
The first two polls on the list were entirely conducted after the debate. Note: Likely Voters, not merely Registered.
Heraclitusstudent
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2016 Feb 16, 12:30pm
Well here are 400 rockets filled with Sarin that the CIA bought and destroyed in Iraq in 2006.
I think Tatu answered that:
tatupu70 says
You posted this awhile back and it was debunked then. This was some rogue Iraqi(s) that probably stole the weapons so they could sell them on the black market. Since the almost certainly were duds by now, they were happy to get some $$ from the US. Do you have any evidence Saddam was hiding them? Like you said--why would he hide old weapons that were of very questionable value and risk his life over them?
But why do you have to be a ISIS monkey and lie by saying that our government knowingly lied us into Iraq to go kill Muslims or steal oil or something?
Because I watched in 2002 Bush bring out iraq from nowhere and start building this unbelievable narrative to attack it. I watched them bring up aluminum tubes, yellow cake from Africa, mobile apparatus, etc, etc.... all of which turned out to be completely wrong. I read report of Cheney assembling his own intelligence team to create the intelligence, etc, etc...
It's just extraordinary that a US president would go to such length to lie deliberately about his motives in order to deliberately attack a sovereign country that had nothing to do with 911 and had never threatened the US. And even 400 rockets filled with Sarin would be a VERY lame excuse to attack an other country without provocation.
Again Syria used some gas weapons against its rebels. So why not attack Syria by the same rational.
It's bizarre that some people would still cling to this narrative in spite of the fact it was debunked so many times from so many different angles. If it was not obvious to you in 2003 it should at least be now.
This is not ISIS propaganda this is the truth. The truth, and the respect for reality, is the basis for all morality.
The very existence of ISIS is due to Bush's lies.
tatupu70
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2016 Feb 16, 12:39pm
The only real defense for Bush is that he was kept in the dark about the lie. Because clearly Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et. al. knew how shaky it was. And calling it shaky is being VERY charitable.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/iraq-war-wmds-donald-rumsfeld-new-report-213530
Please take a look at this material as to what we don’t know about WMD,†Rumsfeld wrote to Air Force General Richard Myers. “It is big.â€
Heraclitusstudent
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2016 Feb 16, 1:09pm
The only real defense for Bush is that he was kept in the dark
From the outside I could see all along this was BS. If he couldn't from the inside, he is an even bigger moron than he looks like. Frankly I don't think that's possible.
It's like the real-estate bubble: How dumb did he have to be to watch it happen and do absolutely nothing?
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"Trump said that invading Iraq was a disaster, that the country was misled into invading Iraq by the Bush administration, and that the claim that Bush kept the country safe from terrorism is ridiculous because 9/11 happened on his watch."
"He went way outside the boundaries of the kinds of things Republican Party politicians normally say, and in response Republican Party politicians (and their backers in the state party) piled on to diss him."
"The strange thing is that after months of watching Trump say things that are racist, absurd, patently false, or all three at once, the Republican Party establishment decided to stomp on him for saying things that are basically true."